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About the Show

Whenever a notable player reaches or nears retirement, the first questions asked is, “Is he a first-ballot Hall of Famer?”
Well, we have the answer. That’s because our weekly radio program is hosted by three long-time NFL writers: Clark Judge, Ron Borges and Rick Gosselin are three of the 46 selectors for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Here’s the hook: where other programs call their analysts “insiders,” our guys ARE insiders. Because they’re on the “inside,” these guys have access to some of the biggest names in pro football. Our two-hour show puts a Hall-of-Fame perspective on players, coaches, plays, issues and stadiums from the past, present and future. The idea is to educate the listener, but to do it in a timely and entertaining fashion with Gosselin, Judge and Borges debating each other and high-profile current and former coaches while also engaging listeners. These hosts can do what no else has: they pull back the curtain on a process that is secretive and often misunderstood. Ultimately, the listeners can better determine if their favorite player is Hall-of-Fame worthy.

 

Clark Judge

 

Clark Judge

Clark Judge has been following the NFL for more than 30 years. He started in Baltimore, where he covered Lefty Driesell’s University of Maryland basketball team before moving on to the Colts. He was the first reporter to reach Frank Kush after the John Elway trade, asking the then-head coach if he wanted to know what he gained in exchange for the No. 1 draft choice. Kush declined, saying he’d read about it in the newspaper. And so he did. When the Colts moved to Indianapolis, so did Clark — getting what he considers the better deal when he relocated to San Diego. He stayed on the West Coast for 16 years, following the Chargers and, later, the San Francisco 49ers, before becoming an NFL columnist for Foxsports.com and CBSSports.com. He is a frequent TV and radio guest and the one guy to somehow, some way, edge the world’s foremost draft authority, Rick Gosselin, and win a 2007 national mock-draft contest, proof that sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good.
Judge has covered a variety of sports, including Major League Baseball, the NHL, NBA, NCAA basketball, lacrosse and soccer and once was asked to report on a surfing contest–in San Diego, not Indianapolis. He is a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame board of selectors, an award-winning writer, an addicted runner and a long-suffering, but passionate, Montreal Canadiens fan. Clark and his family live in New York City.

 

Ron Borges

Ron Borges

Ron Borges has covered the NFL for 40 years beginning with a nine-year tour of duty with the Oakland Raiders from 1974-1982. After a year covering the Baltimore Orioles he began what is now a 31-year stretch covering the New England Patriots for first the Boston Globe and now as lead sports columnist at the Boston Herald. He also served five years as the Globe’s NFL columnist. He has covered 38 of the last 40 Super Bowls, five World Series, four Summer Olympic Games, the Stanley Cup playoffs, NBA playoffs, 22 major golf tournaments including seven Masters Tournaments and over 300 world championship boxing matches around the world.
Borges has been a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame voting committee for 13 years and is also a voting member of the Senior selection committee. He also votes on the International Boxing Hall of Fame selections.
He is a winner of the Nat Fleischer Award for Excellence in Boxing Journalism from the Boxing Writers Association of America and has won more writing awards and more first prize selections in the annual BWAA writing contest than any journalist in the country. He has been named Massachusetts Sportswriter of the Year four times by the National Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association and has won over 60 writing awards from Associated Press Sports Editors, the Pro Football Writers Association, the Boxing Writers Association of America and the Golf Writers Association of America. His work has been included in Best American Sports Stories 10 times.
Borges has worked as an analyst and commentator on nearly 100 international boxing telecasts and has served as a regular contributor to HBO Sports, writes regularly for RING Magazine and Boxing Monthly, is the lead sports columnist at the Boston Herald and in addition to his weekly boxing radio show on Yahoo!Sports Radio, Mouthpiece Boxing which is the No. 2 most downloaded show on the Yahoo network, he also makes a daily appearances on Yahoo!Sports Radio’s 10-noon show and regularly appears on Comcast Sports-New England’s nightly and weekend sports magazine show. His work has also appeared in Rolling Stone, Men’s Journal and other national publications.
His only truly significant accomplishment however has been raising his two children, Laura and Jack.

 

Rick Gosselin

Rick Gosselin

Rick Gosselin has covered the NFL for 45 years with reporting stints in Detroit, New York, Kansas City and Dallas. He has covered 34 Super Bowls and has been enshrined in the writers’ wing of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, having won the Dick McCann Award in 2004 for “long and distinguished reporting on professional football.”
A native of Detroit, Gosselin graduated with a degree in journalism from Michigan State University and has worked for United Press International, the Kansas City Star and the Dallas Morning News in his career. In 1980 he was voted the Missouri Sportswriter of the Year and has won a variety of writing awards. Since 1985, he has annually compiled NFL special-teams rankings, which have become the gold.
standard for NFL kicking games.
Gosselin has been a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection committee for 21 years and is the only voter on both the contributor and senior subcommittees. Gosselin is also a member of the Baseball Writers Association of America and serves on the national advisory board of the John Wooden
Award.

 

79 Comments

  1. Mike
    September 19, 2014
    Reply

    I have been looking for Clark Judge online for months – my Friday is not complete without his NFL assessment (i.e. Peek of the Week) – even during the off-season!

    I will be bookmarking this website and checking back often.

    Thanks.

    • February 20, 2015
      Reply

      Mike, better late than never, huh? Sorry to check in months behind schedule. Appreciate the note. Keep ’em coming.

  2. Scott Dochterman
    January 20, 2015
    Reply

    Guys, I love the show. I cover Big Ten football and basketball so on my Midwestern (and now eastern) travels, it’s a great listen on the road.

    I was wondering if there’s a way to get the podcast moved over to iTunes. It’s a tough stream on SoundCloud, especially when it’s on a phone. One slight bump (or a phone call) and you’re back to the beginning of the podcast. Also, if it’s on iTunes, you can download it for flights.

    Again, great show. It’s a must-listen every week.

    • February 20, 2015
      Reply

      Scott, you have your wish. We’re on ITunes. Just found out today. Thanks to people like you, we made it. Thanks for the note.

  3. Mike Jaquin
    January 27, 2015
    Reply

    Please forward to Clark Judge.

    I would like to thank you for taking the time to read this email. I can’t imagine how busy you must be right now trying to narrow it down to 5 selections.

    Here are 30 reasons why I believe Terrell Davis belongs in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

    1.Sat out entire 2nd quarter of SB XXXII with a migraine headache, could not see for a while, and still rushed for 157 yards and scored 3 TDS.
    2.1998: joined OJ, Eric Dickerson & Barry Sanders as the only 2,000 rushers in NFL history. He also scored 23 TDs that year.
    3.Terrell is the only running back in NFL History to rush for over 2,000 yards and win a Super Bowl in the same season.
    4.After his first 61 regular season games, had the best rush per average in NFL history.
    5.His career may have been short, but it was unquestionably remarkable: 7,607 rushing yards, 60 TDs, 4 Pro Bowls and 2 Super Bowl rings.
    6.John Elway never won a Super Bowl without Terrell.
    7.His playoff resume is the equivalent of Reggie Jackson in October:
    8.7 consecutive 100+ rushing games, an NFL Record. Those are the 7 games that the Broncos won their back-to-back titles.
    9.5.6 yard per carry: NFL PLAYOFF RECORD.
    10.142.5 yards per game: NFL PLAYOFF RECORD. The rest of the Top 5: John Riggins 110.7, Eric Dickerson 103.4, Emmitt Smith 92.9, Duane Thomas 86.3
    11.3 rushing TDs in SB XXXII: SUPER BOWL RECORD.
    12.MVP of SB XXXII.
    13.League MVP the following season in 1998.
    14.The best comparison for a Hall of Famer to Terrell is Gale Sayers, and I admit that you can’t ignore what Sayers did in the receiving and punt/kick returns, but here it is:
    15.Seasons: 7 for both Sayers (1965-71) and Terrell (1995-2001).
    16.Games: 68 for Sayers and 78 for Terrell.
    17.1,000 rushing seasons: 2 for Sayers and 4 for Terrell.
    18.Rushing yards: 4,956 for Sayers and 7,607 for Terrell.
    19.Playoff games: 0 for Sayers and 8 for Terrell.
    20.100 yard playoff games: 0 for Sayers and 7 for Terrell.
    21.SB wins: 0 for Sayers and 2 for Terrell. As Hall of Famer Marcus Allen said, “you can compare Terrell with Sayers, short but outstanding careers. Now if Gale is in, why isn’t Terrell?”
    22.You can also compare Terrell to Hall of Famer Earl Campbell:
    23.Games: 115 for Campbell and 78 for Terrell.
    24.Rushing yards: 9,407 (82 per game) and 7,607 (98 per game) for Terrell.
    25.Playoffs: 6 games for Campbell and 8 for Terrell.
    26.Playoff rushing yards: 420 for Campbell and 1,140 for Terrell.
    27.Playoff Touchdowns: 4 for Campbell and 12 for Terrell.
    28.John Madden called TD, “a Hall of Fame Running Back.”
    29.Mike Shanahan, “his whole career was playing big in big games. But what separates him is he loved those playoff games.”
    30.Hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe, “this is a fact, without TD, we don’t win Super Bowls. That’s a fact.”

    Thank you for your time.

    Sincerely,
    Michael Jaquin
    7499 Apache Lane
    Liverpool, NY 13090
    (315) 409-4413

    • February 20, 2015
      Reply

      Don’t know how I missed this. You’re right, of course, but it’s going to be a long road for Terrell. If and when he makes it through to top 10 he’s got a shot, but brevity of his career hurts him. Spoke up for him, as did others, but don’t see it happening in short term.

  4. pdarden3
    February 20, 2015
    Reply

    Otis Taylor – I believe Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

    Pro Bowl/AFL All Star Selections (3) (1966, 1971 & 1972)
    First Team/AFL All Pro Selections (2) (1966 & 1971)
    Most Receiving Yards (1) (1971)
    Most Receiving Touchdowns (1) (AFL 1967)
    Most Receiving Yards/Game (1) (1971)
    Super Bowl Rings (1) (Kansas City Chiefs, Super Bowl IV)

    Other Points of Note:
    Top Ten Finishes: Receptions (4) (1966, 1967, 1971 & 1972)
    Top Ten Finishes: Receiving Yards (4) (1966, 1967, 1971 & 1972)
    Top Ten Finishes: Receiving Touchdowns (5) (1965, 1966, 1967, 1969 & 1971)
    Top Ten Finishes: Receiving Yards/Game (5) (1966, 1967, 1969, 1971 & 1972)
    Top Ten Finishes: Touchdowns (2) (1967 & 1969)
    Top Ten Finishes: Yards From Scrimmage (3) (1966, 1967 & 1971)
    Top Ten Finishes: All Purpose Yards (1) (1966)

    Notable All Time Rankings:
    73. Receiving Yards/Game: 56.2
    74. Receiving Touchdowns: 57
    98. Receiving Yards: 7,306

    • February 20, 2015
      Reply

      Talk to Rick and Ron. They’re on seniors committee. Think both might agree with you.

  5. Corey
    March 13, 2015
    Reply

    I hope Billy Howton, Del Shofner and Al Wistert can soon be profiled in.State Your Case. Thank You.

  6. Rob
    May 10, 2015
    Reply

    Question for Rick and Ron? Who are 15 names that will be considered to be a Senior Nominee for the Class of 2016? Who else was considered to be a senior nominee when Mick Tingelhoff was named the Senior Nominee last year?

    • Rick Gosselin
      May 10, 2015
      Reply

      We haven’t voted on the slate yet. That’s still a month or so down the road.

    • May 11, 2015
      Reply

      We have yet to vote on the upcoming Senior Slate. The cutdown to 15 should come in June, the meeting will be in late August, when the Senior Committee will decide who we bring out this year as finalists. Then the actual full vote will be held the day before Super Bowl 50 in SF.

  7. Rob
    May 11, 2015
    Reply

    Thanks for the answers Rick and Ron. My last question for you guys is who were some other names considered for the Senior Nominee last year when Mick Tingelhoff was named the Senior Finalist?

  8. Earl
    June 5, 2015
    Reply

    Why doesn’t the Pro Football Hall of Fame release to the public the finalists for the Senior Nominee?

  9. Sports Fan
    June 14, 2015
    Reply

    Gentleman,

    Hope you are all doing well

    You all do Great work, thank you!

    Would you happen to know, who coined this phrase, would you happen to have the original quote?

    Several Sports Writers and Voters use this criteria:
    “The Professional Football Hall of Fame is for people that you cannot write the history of the Professional Football without them”

    Thank you in advance

    SF

    • Rick Gosselin
      June 25, 2015
      Reply

      I believe the quote came from Ira Miller, a long time beat reporter of the San Francisco 49ers.

  10. Sports Fan
    June 25, 2015
    Reply

    6/14/15 Question:

    Gentleman,
    Hope you are all doing well
    You all do Great work, thank you!
    Would you happen to know, who coined this phrase, would you happen to have the original quote?
    Several Sports Writers and Voters use this criteria:
    “The Professional Football Hall of Fame is for people that you cannot write the history of the Professional Football without them”
    Thank you in advance
    SF




    6/25/15
    Rick Gosselin Reply:
    “I believe the quote came from Ira Miller, a long time beat reporter of the San Francisco 49ers.”



    Gentleman,
    Hope you are all doing well
    Rick Gosselin, thank you for replying, any idea how old Ira Miller’s quote is?

    Clark Judge & Ron Borges, would either of you know how old this quote is and is Ira Miller the author?

    Thank you in advance
    SF

    • July 20, 2016
      Reply

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  11. Sports Fan
    July 26, 2015
    Reply

    QUESTIONS:

    6/14/15 Question:

    Gentleman,
    Hope you are all doing well
    You all do Great work, thank you!
    Would you happen to know, who coined this phrase, would you happen to have the original quote?
    Several Sports Writers and Voters use this criteria:
    “The Professional Football Hall of Fame is for people that you cannot write the history of the Professional Football without them”
    Thank you in advance
    SF




    6/25/15
    Rick Gosselin Reply:
    “I believe the quote came from Ira Miller, a long time beat reporter of the San Francisco 49ers.”



    Gentleman,
    Hope you are all doing well
    Rick Gosselin, thank you for replying, any idea how old Ira Miller’s quote is?

    Clark Judge & Ron Borges, would either of you know how old this quote is and is Ira Miller the author?
    Thank you in advance
    SF

  12. Joe
    August 4, 2015
    Reply

    Rick and Ron,
    Has Jim Tyrer name come up in the Senior Room? I know he was a finalist in 1981 and hasn’t been considered since. He was a 8x time all AFL. Six time AFL all Star. 2x Pro Bowler. ALL AFL Team. Has his death have an impact from him being nominated?

    • July 20, 2016
      Reply

      I don’t feel diceesprsted. I often think “thank God I’m not a man” because a lot of the stuff you guys have to do does not look fun to me at all. Including getting shot at. Changing tires. Lots of un-fun stuff. I’m a princess :).

  13. Ned Brooks
    September 22, 2015
    Reply

    Happy Birthday, Mr. Judge!

    Good to see you’re still in the bidness, as most guys of your advanced age have been retired for years. I was seriously bummed when you parted ways with CBS Sports, so I’m glad I found you.

    I trust all is well with you and yours. Drop me a line sometime.

    Take care my friend,
    Ned

    P.S. The Old Pacific Beach Café is gone (a vacant lot, last time I checked), but not forgotten!

    • September 23, 2015
      Reply

      Ned, great to hear from you!!!! Thought of you the other day. Went to Newport. Please tell me how I can get in touch with you (not on here … little too public). Would like to catch up and find out where you’re living, how family is, etc.

  14. Sports Fan
    September 23, 2015
    Reply

    Questions from June for all three (3) of you:
    “…Gentleman,
    Hope you are all doing well
    Rick Gosselin, thank you for replying, any idea how old Ira Miller’s quote is?

    Clark Judge & Ron Borges, would either of you know how old this quote is and is Ira Miller the author?
    Thank you in advance…”

    Original questions below
    SF
    =
    =
    6/14/15 Question:

    Gentleman,
    Hope you are all doing well
    You all do Great work, thank you!
    Would you happen to know, who coined this phrase, would you happen to have the original quote?
    Several Sports Writers and Voters use this criteria:
    “The Professional Football Hall of Fame is for people that you cannot write the history of the Professional Football without them”
    Thank you in advance
    SF




    6/25/15
    Rick Gosselin Reply:
    “I believe the quote came from Ira Miller, a long time beat reporter of the San Francisco 49ers.”



    Gentleman,
    Hope you are all doing well
    Rick Gosselin, thank you for replying, any idea how old Ira Miller’s quote is?

    Clark Judge & Ron Borges, would either of you know how old this quote is and is Ira Miller the author?
    Thank you in advance
    SF

    • September 23, 2015
      Reply

      It is from Ira Miller, and I can remember him saying it at least 20 years ago.

  15. Ned Brooks
    September 25, 2015
    Reply

    Clark:

    You can contact me at the e-mail address listed above. If you want a phone number, let me know the best way to provide it to you.

    THX!
    Ned

    P.S. Going to Newport in a few weeks.

    • September 26, 2015
      Reply

      Got it. Will do. Can’t wait to catch up.

  16. Sports Fan
    October 25, 2015
    Reply

    Mr. Clark Judge
    Mr. Ron Borges
    Mr. Rick Gosselin
    Talk Of Fame Sports Network
    =
    You All do Great work! Thank You!

    Question:
    What is the absolute very latest Fans can submit information to the PFHOF to be disseminated to all 46 Selectors/Voters for the upcoming November vote?

    Thank you

    • October 25, 2015
      Reply

      Going to be honest with you: Wouldn’t submit info to voters. They have more than enough and probably won’t read. Votes are supposed to be in by Oct. 30, but think most have been cast by now. Know mine has been.

  17. Sports Fan
    October 26, 2015
    Reply

    Mr. Clark Judge
    Mr. Ron Borges
    Mr. Rick Gosselin
    Talk Of Fame Sports Network

    Mr. Judge, thank you for your response, very much appreciated

    In your articles here on your Website, the story titled:
    Flores on failure to reach Canton: “Confusing and frustrating”

    I left each of you three (3) comments with questions on 10/20/15 in your “Leave a Comment” section
    you answered one of the questions I asked above
    could you all respond to the other questions?
    The three (3) comments which also had links can be found with that article
    Let me know if you need me to resend them or re-post them here?
    Thank you again for your time it truly is appreciated.
    I respect the hard work each of you do.

  18. Coley A. Best, Jr.
    January 7, 2016
    Reply

    CLark Judge, Ron Borges, & Rick Gosselin,

    As we near the selection for the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2016,
    I would like to present my case and your consideration to elect QB Ken Stabler.
    I believe Ken Stabler and his contribution to the game is worthy based on his merits.
    *1974 NFL MVP
    *4 Time Pro Bowler (1973, 1974, 1976, & 1977)
    *2 Time AP First Team All AFC (1973 & 1974)
    *AP First Team All Pro (1974)
    *AP Second Team All Pro (1976)
    *AP NFL offensive Player of the Year (1974)
    *2 Time NFL Leader in Touchdown Passes (1974 & 1976)
    * AFC Passing leader 1973
    *NFL Passing Champion 1976 (103.4 QB Rating when the league average was 63.6)
    *His 66.7 completion pct. In 1976 was 2nd best in history at the time.
    *Super Bowl XI Champion
    *Broke Johnny Unitas’ record for fastest to 100 wins. To this day, only surpassed by Montana and Brady.
    *Madden and Stabler combined for a 60 win 19 loss record for a .756 pct.
    *Prime Time on Monday Night Football, Stabler was 11-1-3 with a 97.7 Rating. Still holds the record for most consecutive Monday Night wins.
    *His post season statistics rank the best of the 1970’s with an 84.2 rating.
    *1976 Hicock Award for Athlete of the Year.
    *7th highest winning percentage of all QB’s in NFL history.
    *Only QB in NFL history to lead his team to 5 consecutive conference title games.
    Before the West Coast offense was introduced no Quarterback has a higher completion rating than him. He led the league twice in touchdown passes and passing completion percentage. He was among the top 10 Quarterbacks in passing yardage 7 times, second highest passing rating in the decade (1970’s) with a 103.4. He led the NFL in yards per attempt and placed third in touchdown passes during the 1970’s. He did this even though John Madden did not start him until the middle of the 1973 season. He had 23 Career Comebacks in the 4th Quarter or Overtime. He was 11-1-3 on Monday Nights, the one loss that he had was by one point. His Monday Night Statistics are: 97.7 Quarterback Rating 217 completions, 338 Attempts, 64.2 Completion Percentage, 2956 Yards, 8.7 Yards per Attempt, 27 Touchdowns, 17 Interceptions. *1970’s All Decade Team. Comparing Ken’s postseason totals to the 23 Modern Era Quarterbacks in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Ken is 6th in Quarterback Rating (84.2), 7th in Completion Rating (57.8%), 9th in Touchdowns (19), 9th in yards per game (203.2), 10th in yardage (2641). 7-5 record. When he retired his winning percentage of .661 was third among Modern Era Quarterbacks behind Roger Staubach (.746) & Terry Bradshaw (.677). It still stands 7th (all Time) behind Hall of Famers Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana and three quarterbacks that are still playing (Tom Brady, Peyton Manning & Ben Roethlisberger). Ken is the only Quarterback in NFL history to take 3 teams to their most number of victories: 1976 Oakland Raiders 15-1, 1980 Houston Oilers 11-5 & the New Orleans Saints 8-8. When the NFL put together the 1970’s All Decade Team (chosen by the Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee) Ken was one of three Quarterbacks: Roger Staubach had the most votes with Ken Stabler and Terry Bradshaw tied for second most votes. Bob Griese and Fran Tarkenton did not get any votes. Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, Bob Griese and Fran Tarkenton are all members of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Ken had 7 playoff trips in 10 seasons as an Oakland Raider. He was also the leader of the 1976 Oakland Raiders which was recently voted by NFL.COM as the greatest team of all time. Ken Stabler was also 8-6 against Terry Bradshaw/Pittsburgh Steelers & Bob Griese/Miami Dolphins. He had 150 touchdown passes from 1970-1979, third most in that decade. The other four Quarterbacks in the top 5 are members of the Pro Football Hall of Fame (Staubach, Bradshaw, Griese & Tarkenton). He was 96-49-1 as a starter. His career stats are 184 Games, 3,793 Attempts, 2,270 Completions, 59.8% Attempts per Game 20.6, Yards 27,938, Average 7.4, Yards per Game 151.8, Touchdowns 194. He did all of this in an era that was not friendly to Quarterbacks as it is today. What throwing yards and completions that Quarter backs threw for in those days they had to earn, because the rules were more favorable to the defensive backs and safeties.
    Statistics alone don’t even begin to tell the story and that’s most important. We can’t tell the story of the NFL in the 1970’s, the Golden growth era of the NFL, without mentioning Ken Stabler and games like these:
    “The Immaculate Reception”, “the Sea of Hands”, “Ghost to the Post”, “The Holy Roller”. Or his 23 4th quarter comebacks and 26 game winning drives.
    As a true signal caller (one of few that called his own plays) Stabler’s command on the football field transferred to his teammates and most importantly to victories.
    Ken “Snake” Stabler is one of the great QB’s of the 1970’s. Time has eluded him and unfortunately he is now gone. But I ask of you to please include him now as he is on the doorstep to Canton.
    Thank You!

    Sincerely,

    Coley A. Best, Jr.

    • July 20, 2016
      Reply

      Always the best content from these priougodis writers.

  19. Rob
    January 19, 2016
    Reply

    Rick, Ron and Clark, Do you think coaches in future Hall of Fame voting should be placed in the contributor category or do you prefer it as it is now?

    • Rick Gosselin
      January 19, 2016
      Reply

      There are a few of us that are lobbying the HOF to put the coaches in the contributor committee. Then it will be cut and dried. There will be one group of candidates who crossed the white lines to play the game and the other group of candidates (owners, coaches, commissioners, general managers, talent evaluators) who didn’t.

    • January 21, 2016
      Reply

      I’m with Rick on this one. Think coaches should be in the contributor category. Very difficult to beat out players when you consider how many all-decade players there are who haven’t even been discussed. As Rick said, make it cut and dried. Guys on the field in one area; guys who don’t play the game in another. Might help push through players who have been waiting for years, too.

  20. Sports Fan
    January 19, 2016
    Reply

    Gentlemen,
    Per “Rob’s” comment
    – This question is for each one of you since you all might have a different opinion
    – Is there Pros/Cons if coaches had their own category?
    – Please expound on your replies
    &
    * You all do great work*
    Thank you

  21. Rob
    February 9, 2016
    Reply

    Gentleman just curious why hasn’t Leroy Butler gotten more consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame when John Lynch wasn’t even a member of the all decade teams of either the 1990s or 2000s?

    • February 9, 2016
      Reply

      That’s a good question to which I don’t have a great answer. Part of the problem is safety is the most ignored position by the HOF Committee in the game. The last full-time, pure safety to be enshrined is Ken Houston and his last game was 1980! It’s ridiculous. But I’ll research him some and do a State Your Case on him for the site. Thanks for bringing his name up.

      • July 20, 2016
        Reply

        I love reading these articles because they’re short but inrafmotive.

    • July 20, 2016
      Reply

      Chris Martin would fall into the other camp as well.BTW, James Anderson was unbelievably dreadful in the recently completed ODI series. He went at 7.5 RPO over the entire series. He’s probably the first guy Ryder should thank for his top start in international cricket. He could buy him a drink or sotiching.Neme little icon, BTW. Is it a pencil?

  22. Sports Fan
    February 9, 2016
    Reply

    RE-POST from January

    Sports Fan
    January 19, 2016 at 8:54 pm
    Gentlemen,
    Per “Rob’s” comment
    – This question is for each one of you since you all might have a different opinion
    – Is there Pros/Cons if coaches had their own category?
    – Please expound on your replies
    &
    * You all do great work*
    Thank you

  23. Sports Fan
    February 16, 2016
    Reply

    RE-POST from January/February

    January 19, 2016 at 8:54 pm
    February 9, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    Gentlemen,
    Per “Rob’s” comment
    – This question is for each one of you since you all might have a different opinion
    – Is there Pros/Cons if coaches had their own category?
    – Please expound on your replies

    Thank you

  24. Rob
    March 1, 2016
    Reply

    Gentleman, Why hasn’t Neil Smith gotten more consideration for the Hall of Fame? He was on the 1990s All Decade Team. He is the only Defensive End on the 1990s all decade team who is not in the Hall of Fame. He also has more sacks than Charles Haley and Andre Tippett who are in the HOF with 104.5 sacks in his career.

  25. Sports Fan
    March 2, 2016
    Reply

    Comment RE-POST from January/February

    January 19, 2016 at 8:54 pm
    February 9, 2016 at 11:10 pm
    February 16, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    Gentlemen,
    Per “Rob’s” comment
    – This question is for each one of you since you all might have a different opinion
    – Is there Pros/Cons if coaches had their own category?
    – Please expound on your replies

    Thank you

  26. bachslunch
    March 6, 2016
    Reply

    News sources recently reported that Al Wistert died yesterday at age 95. He was arguably one of the worst HoF snubs in a Senior pool full of them. First team all pro 6 times, on 40s all decade team, played late enough to get named to a pro bowl towards the end of his career. And he never got a chance to have his case heard while the likes of Marshall Goldberg got not one but two chances in the room. Was looking for a “state your case” for him at this site but found nothing. The PFHoF should be ashamed of themselves for ignoring him for so long — really shabby stuff as far as I’m concerned. RIP, and here’s hoping someday he finally gets his due with a bust in Canton.

  27. Sports Fan
    March 6, 2016
    Reply

    bachslunch
    re: Your Al Wistert Comment
    “News sources recently reported that Al Wistert died yesterday at age 95. He was arguably one of the worst HoF snubs in a Senior pool full of them. First team all pro 6 times, on 40s all decade team, played late enough to get named to a pro bowl towards the end of his career. And he never got a chance to have his case heard while the likes of Marshall Goldberg got not one but two chances in the room. Was looking for a “state your case” for him at this site but found nothing. The PFHoF should be ashamed of themselves for ignoring him for so long — really shabby stuff as far as I’m concerned. RIP, and here’s hoping someday he finally gets his due with a bust in Canton.”
    =

    =
    Can you expound on your comment re: Al Wistert’s “snub”?
    I’d be very interested in knowing more detail about this
    thank you

  28. bachslunch
    March 7, 2016
    Reply

    “Snub” is being used in the general sense that he’s clearly deserving but hasn’t gotten in. He’s one of those Super Senior players like Lavvie Dilweg, Verne Lewellen, Ox Emerson, and Riley Matheson who has never even gotten a chance in the room (like Mick Tingelhoff until last year) but should have been elected long ago. Add Duke Slater and Mac Speedie to this list, and you’ve got a complete list of pre-50s players who should be in. But for some reason, they continue to be ignored. As mentioned above, Wistert was a 1st team all pro 6 times and is on the 40s all decade team, which is plenty good enough and better than some already enshrined.

  29. bachslunch
    March 7, 2016
    Reply

    Will also add that Wistert apparently grades out extremely well in film study. Over at Ken Crippen’s website devoted to this, Wistert’s score of 8.0 is tied for the top spot with Lavvie Dilweg and Johnny Robinson.

  30. Earl
    March 11, 2016
    Reply

    Clark, Ron and Rick, Will Randy Moss be viewed the same way in the room like Terrell Owens was this past year when Moss is eligible in 2018?

  31. Sports Fan
    March 13, 2016
    Reply

    Comment RE-POST from January/February/March

    January 19, 2016 at 8:54 pm
    February 9, 2016 at 11:10 pm
    February 16, 2016 at 5:41 pm
    March 2, 2016 at 10:46 am

    Gentlemen,
    Per “Rob’s” comment
    – This question is for each one of you since you all might have a different opinion
    – Is there Pros/Cons if coaches had their own category?
    – Please expound on your replies

    Thank you

  32. Rob
    July 29, 2016
    Reply

    Rick And Ron, when will the senior finalist for 2017 be announced? Clark, when will the contributor nominees for 2017 be announced?

    • July 30, 2016
      Reply

      Contributor nominees announced August 16; senior candidate the day before. Would love to tell you others that are under consideration but think we’re not supposed to. I mean it. You can probably figure out that several owners and at least one former commish might be among them.

  33. Sports Fan
    September 6, 2016
    Reply

    Talk Of Fame
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge

    (This “Comment” originally appeared in the
    “State Your Case: Jim Tyrer” from May 2016
    I assumed you all saw it?
    I’m posting it here too just in case you did not)

    =
    September 6, 2016 at 12:10 am

    RE: “…Here’s the hook: where other programs call their analysts “insiders,” our guys ARE insiders. Because they’re on the “inside,” … These hosts can do what no else has: they pull back the curtain on a process…”

    I’ve respectfully have asked since May
    =
    July 14, 2016 at 1:01 am
    June 5, 2016 at 2:11 am
    May 31, 2016 at 1:59 pm
    Mr. Borges
    Excellent Post..Well Stated!

    RE: “…The Pro Football Hall of Fame bylaws…” you referenced here
    Please reply back with the Professional Football Hall of Fame’s complete list of all of those “bylaws” that are used by each selector/voter to determine who is voted in
    thank you

  34. Sports Fan
    September 8, 2016
    Reply

    Talk Of Fame
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge
    When will the Preliminary Ballot Nominees be announced?
    thank you

  35. Sports Fan
    September 9, 2016
    Reply

    September 8, 2016 at 10:58 am
    Talk Of Fame
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge
    When will the Preliminary Ballot Nominees be announced?
    thank you

    • September 9, 2016
      Reply

      Would think it would be sometime in October. We havent voted on it yet.

      • Sports Fan
        September 9, 2016
        Reply

        Mr Judge
        thank you for taking the time to respond
        Last year the Preliminary Ballot Nominees were announced in Sept.
        I recall you had “108 Modern Era nominees”
        Is that going to change for the 2017 Class?

        =
        September 9, 2016 at 10:21 am
        September 8, 2016 at 10:58 am
        Talk Of Fame
        Mr Borges
        Mr Gosselin
        Mr Judge
        When will the Preliminary Ballot Nominees be announced?
        thank you

        • September 10, 2016
          Reply

          Let me apologize. You are right about the 108 candidates. I was thinking you were asking about when we would vote, and we will almost surely get the list this month. Been that way in the past. So, in answer to your question, the list of PRELIMINARY candidates should come out in September, and I have no idea if there will be more. I would think so, but it is decided not by the board but by the Hall … which, in turn, has its board of 48 (now) vote that list down to 25. Sorry for the confusion. My mistake.

          • Sports Fan
            September 10, 2016

            Mr Judge
            No apology at all and thank you again for responding
            And I understand the number (108) changes with each Class
            that was just last year’s Preliminary number of Nominees

            If you, or Mr Borges, Mr Gosselin, or Talk Of Fame get an actual date for this month please reply back what date in Sept for 2017 Class Preliminary Ballot Nominee list will be announced?

            Huge fan of your Show/Website
            of the many positive insightful information you all share write/talk about
            Keep up the Great work!

          • September 10, 2016

            Thanks for the kind words. Will let you know the minute we are apprised. Thanks again for your interest.

  36. Sports Fan
    September 11, 2016
    Reply

    Mr Judge
    thank you & you are very welcome
    I always advise others about TOF
    Last year it was announced mid-Sept, so maybe this week it will be announced?
    I look forward to hear back from you
    thank you
    =
    September 9, 2016 at 10:21 am
    September 8, 2016 at 10:58 am
    Talk Of Fame
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge
    When will the Preliminary Ballot Nominees be announced?
    thank you

    • September 13, 2016
      Reply

      Well, well, well. You were right. The preliminary list will be announced tomorrow night. Not sure how many names are on it, but your mid-September guess was right on.

      • Sports Fan
        September 13, 2016
        Reply

        Mr Judge…thank you!
        =
        see my question I’ve been asking all of you since May…
        =
        September 12, 2016 at 11:17 pm
        September 6, 2016 at 12:55 am
        Talk Of Fame
        Mr Borges
        Mr Gosselin
        Mr Judge

        (This “Comment” originally appeared in the
        “State Your Case: Jim Tyrer” from May 2016
        I assumed you all saw it?
        I’m posting it here too just in case you did not)
        =
        RE: “…Here’s the hook: where other programs call their analysts “insiders,” our guys ARE insiders. Because they’re on the “inside,” … These hosts can do what no else has: they pull back the curtain on a process…”

        I’ve respectfully have asked since May
        =
        September 6, 2016 at 12:10 am
        July 14, 2016 at 1:01 am
        June 5, 2016 at 2:11 am
        May 31, 2016 at 1:59 pm
        Mr. Borges
        Excellent Post..Well Stated!

        RE: “…The Pro Football Hall of Fame bylaws…” you referenced here
        Please reply back with the Professional Football Hall of Fame’s complete list of all of those “bylaws” that are used by each selector/voter to determine who is voted in
        thank you

        • September 13, 2016
          Reply

          Really is no set of by-laws. We listen to persons make speeches on behalf of candidates, are not supposed to consider off-the-field issues and then vote the group from 15 to 10 to 5. Its really that simple. You are not supposed to reveal conversations that occur in that room, and by that I mean quoting somebody saying something. What happens in there, for the most part, is supposed to stay in there. And, again, Im not talking about the general process or giving an overview of what happened but specifically what people say on behalf or against a particular candidate. But if youre asking if we must follow a set of written rules, the answer is no. We all understand the process and how it works. Any questions are handled before or during the vote.

  37. Sports Fan
    September 12, 2016
    Reply

    September 6, 2016 at 12:55 am
    Talk Of Fame
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge

    (This “Comment” originally appeared in the
    “State Your Case: Jim Tyrer” from May 2016
    I assumed you all saw it?
    I’m posting it here too just in case you did not)
    =

    RE: “…Here’s the hook: where other programs call their analysts “insiders,” our guys ARE insiders. Because they’re on the “inside,” … These hosts can do what no else has: they pull back the curtain on a process…”

    I’ve respectfully have asked since May
    =
    September 6, 2016 at 12:10 am
    July 14, 2016 at 1:01 am
    June 5, 2016 at 2:11 am
    May 31, 2016 at 1:59 pm
    Mr. Borges
    Excellent Post..Well Stated!

    RE: “…The Pro Football Hall of Fame bylaws…” you referenced here
    Please reply back with the Professional Football Hall of Fame’s complete list of all of those “bylaws” that are used by each selector/voter to determine who is voted in
    thank you

  38. Sports Fan
    September 19, 2016
    Reply

    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge

    Thanks again for letting me know about the Preliminary Ballot Nominees.

    Question for each of you

    Last year in Sept. 2015 for PFHOF 2016 class
    Dr. Mario Longoria provided each of you with information
    do you all recall that?
    Do you recall him & his information?

  39. Sports Fan
    September 21, 2016
    Reply

    September 19, 2016 at 11:19 pm
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge
    Thanks again for letting me know about the Preliminary Ballot Nominees.

    Question for each of you

    Last year in Sept. 2015 for PFHOF 2016 class
    Dr. Mario Longoria provided each of you with information
    do you all recall that?
    Do you recall him & his information?

  40. Sports Fan
    September 22, 2016
    Reply

    September 21, 2016 at 9:46 am
    September 19, 2016 at 11:19 pm
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge
    Thanks again for letting me know about the Preliminary Ballot Nominees.

    Question for each of you

    Last year in Sept. 2015 for PFHOF 2016 class
    Dr. Mario Longoria provided each of you with information
    do you all recall that?
    Do you recall him & his information?

  41. Sports Fan
    September 24, 2016
    Reply

    September 22, 2016 at 3:15 pm
    September 21, 2016 at 9:46 am
    September 19, 2016 at 11:19 pm
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge

    Question for each of you

    Last year in Sept. 2015 for PFHOF 2016 class
    Dr. Mario Longoria provided each of you with information
    do you all recall that?
    Do you recall him & his information from last year?

  42. Sports Fan
    September 24, 2016
    Reply

    Resend

    September 22, 2016 at 3:15 pm
    September 21, 2016 at 9:46 am
    September 19, 2016 at 11:19 pm
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge

    Question for each of you

    Last year in Sept. 2015 for PFHOF 2016 class
    Dr. Mario Longoria provided each of you with information
    do you all recall that?
    Do you recall him & his information from last year?

    • September 26, 2016
      Reply

      Sorry, do not.

      • Sports Fan
        September 26, 2016
        Reply

        Mr Judge,
        Thank you for taking the time and responding
        =
        Mr Borges
        Mr Gosselin
        See original question below,
        Mr Judge did not, do either of you recall?

        Last year in Sept. 2015 for PFHOF 2016 class
        Dr. Mario Longoria provided each of you with information
        do you all recall that?
        =
        September 24, 2016 at 7:17 am
        September 22, 2016 at 3:15 pm
        September 21, 2016 at 9:46 am
        September 19, 2016 at 11:19 pm
        Mr Borges
        Mr Gosselin
        Mr Judge

        Question for each of you

        Last year in Sept. 2015 for PFHOF 2016 class
        Dr. Mario Longoria provided each of you with information
        do you all recall that?

  43. Sports Fan
    November 9, 2016
    Reply

    Talk Of Fame
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge
    When will the Semi-Finalist Ballot Nominees be announced?
    Are all votes in?
    thank you

    • November 10, 2016
      Reply

      Later this month. Believe it will be within 12-14 days.

  44. Sports Fan
    November 11, 2016
    Reply

    September 26, 2016 at 10:40 am
    Mr Judge,
    Thank you for taking the time and responding (back on September 26, 2016)
    =
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    See original question below,
    Mr Judge did not recall, do either of you recall?

    Last year in September 2015 for PFHOF 2016 class
    Dr. Mario Longoria provided each of you with information
    do you all recall that?
    =
    September 26, 2016 at 9:36 am
    September 24, 2016 at 7:17 am
    September 22, 2016 at 3:15 pm
    September 21, 2016 at 9:46 am
    September 19, 2016 at 11:19 pm
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge

    Question for each of you

    Last year in September 2015 for PFHOF 2016 class
    Dr. Mario Longoria provided each of you with information
    do you all recall that?

  45. Sports Fan
    November 16, 2016
    Reply

    November 11, 2016 at 12:46 pm
    September 26, 2016 at 10:40 am
    Mr Judge,
    Thank you for taking the time and responding (back on September 26, 2016)
    =
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    See original question below,
    Mr Judge did not recall, do either of you recall?

    Last year in September 2015 for PFHOF 2016 class
    Dr. Mario Longoria provided each of you with information
    do you all recall that?
    =
    September 26, 2016 at 9:36 am
    September 24, 2016 at 7:17 am
    September 22, 2016 at 3:15 pm
    September 21, 2016 at 9:46 am
    September 19, 2016 at 11:19 pm
    Mr Borges
    Mr Gosselin
    Mr Judge

    Question for each of you

    Last year in September 2015 for PFHOF 2016 class
    Dr. Mario Longoria provided each of you with information
    do you all recall that?

  46. Rob
    December 7, 2016
    Reply

    Gentleman, the Baseball writers in 2018 will have all its hall of fame ballots public. Do you think the Pro Football Hall of Fame will do the same?

    • December 7, 2016
      Reply

      I dont…at least not in near future. Hall hasnt shown any desire to lean in that direction.

  47. Sports Fan
    January 5, 2017
    Reply

    (This “Comment” originally appeared under the
    “Forgotten in the Crush of Statistics” Post from July 2014
    I assumed you all saw it?
    I’m posting Comment here too just in case you did not)
    =
    =
    RE: “…Here’s the hook: where other programs call their analysts “insiders,” our guys ARE insiders. Because they’re on the “inside,” … These hosts can do what no else has: they pull back the curtain on a process…”

    I’ve respectfully have asked since March
    =
    RE-POST of COMMENT
    January 5, 2017
    July 19, 2016
    July 14, 2016
    April 11, 2016
    April 1, 2016
    March 28, 2016
    March 24, 2016
    March 19, 2016
    March 15, 2016
    March 12, 2016
    Talk Of Fame
    Mr. Gosselin
    Mr. Borges
    Mr. Judge
    =
    RE: “ONE OF THE ISSUES…IS THAT NOT ENOUGH WORTHY CANDIDATES ARE CYCLED THROUGH THE ROOM FOR DISCUSSION.”

    RE: “Of the 61 who have never been discussed, 56 are now in the senior pool. That means their 25 years of eligibility has expired. The senior sub-committee is allowed to nominate only two candidates per year. At that rate, it would take the next 28 years just to clear the queue of those all-decade performers. So most of these players and their chances at Canton have been lost forever.”

    RE: “MOST OF THESE PLAYERS AND THEIR CHANCES AT CANTON HAVE BEEN LOST FOREVER.”

    RE: “THE SELECTION PROCESS FAILED THEM…AND THAT’S A SHAME.”

    From the time this was written in 2014 until now,
    regarding the large number of persons noted in this article
    How many of these individuals you noted and or named here in this article:
    – Are alive?
    – Have been Inducted since this was written or are now pending Induction?
    – Have been a Semi-Finalist / Finalist?
    – What is being done to correct this serious oversight?
    thank you

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