TOFN podcast: HOF LB Jack Ham revisits the proudest moment of his career


Lynn Swann Super Bowl X photo courtesy Pittsburgh Steelers

The 21-17 victory by the Pittsburgh Steelers over the Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl X represented the proudest moment of Hall of Famer Jack Ham’s career.

Not the singular win over the Cowboys – but the achievement of the Steelers winning back-to-back Super Bowls. And that’s what we’ll discuss with Ham today on the Talk of Fame Network’s “5 Games” podcast series. We’ve already visited with Jack about the Immaculate Reception game, the 1974 AFC championship game against the Oakland Raiders and the 1975 Super Bowl against the Minnesota Vikings.

In winning those Super Bowls over the Vikings and Cowboys, the Steelers joined the Lombardi Packers the Shula Dolphins as the only teams to win consecutive Super Bowls in the game’s first 10 years. The Steelers were aware of the challenge they faced heading into that 1976 season – Hall of Fame coach Chuck Noll made sure of that.

“I think Chuck Noll set the tone in training camp after coming back,” Ham said. “You can imagine all these guys getting endorsements and making public appearances in the offseason after our Super Bowl win.

“But Chuck Noll, in our first meeting of training camp in Latrobe, said, `You know guys, you can take those Super Bowl rings off your fingers now and put them on the shelf because there’s not a thing you did last year that is going to win you a job no this football team this year. You’re the only team that has a chance to repeat. And you know what? If you guys can take this as one helluva challenge because every team that you play, when you’re watching tape of their previous games — they’re not going to play like that against you. There’s going to be a star on their schedule when they play Pittsburgh and you’re going to get everybody’s best game and best shot. If you understand that and take this challenge on, you guys have the opportunity to do this again.”

The Steelers blew through the regular season with a 12-2 record to win the AFC Central, then eliminated Baltimore and Oakland with AFC playoff victories to earn that date with Dallas. The Steelers trailed the Cowboys 10-7 through three quarters before rallying for 14 fourth-quarter points to claim that second consecutive Lombardi Trophy.

“I think of all the things in my career, I am most proud of the fact we won back-to-back twice (also 1978-79),” said Ham, a member of the NFL’s 75th anniversary team. “No one can say you snuck up on people, you got lucky one year, injuries…whatever the case. When you do it back-to-back like that, I think that’s really something special and I take a lot of pride in that.”

Ham also talked about the challenge of facing Hall of Fame quarterback Roger Staubach in that Super Bowl, the game played by Hall of Fame wide receiver Lynn Swann that earned him Super Bowl MVP honors plus the frantic final minutes of that game.

In the final podcast of our “5 Games” with Jack Ham, we’ll discuss the 1979 Super Bowl victory over the Cowboys. Subscribe to our podcast and listen for free at @ iTunes or VokalNow.com

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109 Comments

  1. Rasputin
    March 15, 2018
    Reply

    Odd how a team with 9 HoFers was trailing a team that supposedly only merits 3 HoFers in its starting lineup for most of that Super Bowl. Now if Cliff Harris and Drew Pearson were inducted that’d be 5 HoFers. That would make more sense wouldn’t it?

  2. Scott Remington
    March 15, 2018
    Reply

    Let it go, Rasputin. The better team won. And did it again (1977). And again (Super Bowl XIII). And again (1979). After the opening TD catch in Super Bowl X, Drew Pearson was a virtual non-factor vs. Pittsburgh. Furthermore, Lynn Swann and John Stallworth are largely in the Hall of Fame because of their record-breaking Super Bowl performances against Cliff Harris and the rest of the overwhelmed Cowboy secondaries of those matchups.

    • Rasputin
      March 16, 2018
      Reply

      They certainly weren’t THREE TIMES better, LOL. “Record-breaking”? “Overwhelmed”? In SB 10 Stallworth had 2 catches for 8 yards. Swann caught 4 passes. They were big passes, but the Steelers threw away from Cliff Harris all day. I’ve even linked to a Pittsburgh article about it before on here. On at least one of those passes Harris was blitzing.

      But thanks, Scott, for showing up and again proving that you have no idea what you’re talking about. As for Pearson, his brilliance was why the Cowboys were in that Super Bowl to begin with.

      PS – The Cowboys were better in 1977 by the playoffs when they peaked and Pittsburgh got beat by the Broncos. Dallas was better in 1971 when they had the best team in the NFL and the Steelers were 6-8, and in fact from 1965 through 1972 when they beat the Steelers 7 times in row, along with a smattering of other wins from the early 60s (including the new Cowboys’ first ever NFL win in 61!) through 1985.

      • Scott Remington
        April 30, 2018
        Reply

        Rasputin, where is this so-called “article from a Pittsburgh paper.” It’s probably all lies, like you are full of. Any weblinks, stupid? Swann and Stallworth, who this fool named “Rasputin” described as “overrated,” lit Harris’ sorry ass up every time he faced them. Super Bowl receiving records were falling all over the place when this mismatch occurred (Super Bowl X; Super Bowl XIII). As all of Western PA knows, Swann and Stallworth vs. a secondary with Cliff Harris as its best player is a mismatch.

        When you hear someone coming out of a deep sleep screaming in Texas, don’t worry. It is only a stupid Cowboys fan having a nightmare brought on by images of Lynn Swann or John Stallworth. LMAO!!! LMAO!!! LMAO!!! LMAO!!! LMAO!!! LMAO!!! LMAO!!! LMAO!!!

        • Rasputin
          April 30, 2018
          Reply

          LOL! I already quoted from it for you on the other page, you lying halfwit. Posts with direct links tend to drop slowly or not at all here but I told you exactly what to type (or copy paste) into your search engine. Let me know if the technology is too hard for you to master. I’ll generously post it again:

          Here’s an excerpt from a 2001 Pittsburgh newspaper talking about it (search for “A Super Bowl stage provided Lynn Swann’s ticket to Canton”):

          “”One of the reporters asked me if I was going to ease up on Swann because of his concussion. All I said was, ‘This is pro football, fellas. If he runs into my area, I’m going to knock him out.’”

          Much to Harris’ chagrin even today, he never got his shot at Swann.

          “Go ahead, ask him how many times he came across the middle that day. He caught zero balls in my area. He and Terry Bradshaw listened to me. They didn’t jeopardize his health. They never called a play for him over the middle until the one time when I was in a safety blitz.”

          That turned out to be the play that iced the Steelers’ win.

          Leading, 15-10, with little more than three minutes to play, Bradshaw faced a third-and-4 at the Steelers’ 36. Cowboys Coach Tom Landry called an all-out blitz, leaving cornerback Mark Washington in single coverage on Swann. Linebacker D.D. Lewis had a clear shot at Bradshaw but missed. Bradshaw stepped up and unloaded the ball just as Harris hit him in the midsection and defensive tackle Larry Cole hit him in the head. More than 80 million people watching the game around the world saw how the play ended, but Bradshaw didn’t. He was knocked out with a concussion.”

          Let’s see….Dallas dominated Pittsburgh in the 60s-early 70s (even got their first ever NFL win against them in 1961, and Chuck Howley beat them the last 7 times he played them). The Cowboys went undefeated against the Steelers in the 90s, brutally beating them by DOUBLE DIGITS every game including SB 30 (no fluky 4 point squeaker there), and so far Dallas has beaten Pittsburgh every time they’ve played in the 2010s. The Cowboys also have a winning record head to head against the Steelers in the all time series, and trump them in most metrics except for a single controversial Super Bowl win (actually at least 3 of the Steelers’ SB “wins” were controversial, with an official involved even personally apologizing to the Seahawks a few years later, LOL) that could be erased any given season.

          Who’s ACTUALLY having such intense night terrors that they obsessively post about a team they don’t root for? Hint – it’s the unscrupulous coward from Western PA who sees the writing on the wall and fears his one bragging point will soon be ripped away from him. Your nightmares feature Bob Lilly, Chuck Howley, Bob Hayes, Larry Brown, Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin, Larry Allen, Tony Romo, Ezekiel Elliott, Dak Prescott, and many others from……….America’s Team. 🙂

  3. Scott Remington
    March 19, 2018
    Reply

    Record-breaking: Swann’s 161 receiving yards were a record that stood for 12 years until Washington’s Ricky Sanders shredded the Denver Broncos secondary in SB XXII. in Super Bowl XIII, Stallworth’s 115 receiving yards established a Super Bowl record for most receiving yards in a half. Stallworth’s 75-yard TD reception tied the record set by the Colts’ John Mackey. Swann and Stallworth were the first receiving duo ever to record 100-yard performances together within one Super Bowl (XIII). Cliff Harris trailed Stallworth for the last 50 yards on the 75-yd. TD and is clearly seen getting a good view of Swann making a leaping TD in the back of the endzone in XIII. The films and videotape do not lie, they only expose your delusions. I would re-iterate, the Cowboys secondary was overwhelmed by Swann and Stallworth and Harris was one of the key casualties.

    Like I stated earlier, you can only brag about Dallas beating the Steelers before they drafted Swann, Stallworth, and Jack Lambert and only after their Super Bowl run was over. You can only brag about Dallas beating the Packers AFTER Lombardi left. You can only brag about Dallas beating the 49ers, before and after the Montana/Walsh era. Those are real dynasties (Lombardi’s Packers; the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers; the Montana/Walsh 49ers) that never lost to Landry’s Cowboys, ever. The combined records of these dynasties vs. Landry’s Cowboys (regular season and playoffs): 13-0.

    Give up, Rasputin. You’re fighting a lost cause and making a fool of yourself.

    • Rasputin
      March 20, 2018
      Reply

      How does any of that show that the 75 Steelers merit having 3 times as many HoFers as the 75 Cowboys, you idiot? Were they 3 times better? You just repeated a bunch of crap you spewed from the other page where I schooled you. Talk about humiliating yourself in a losing cause, Scott.

      PS – Have you considered the possibility that Harris was trailing by 50 yards in that other Super Bowl because he had nothing to do with the play, LOL? It was actually a fairly short pass but CB Aaron Kyle missed the tackle. It takes Harris a while to enter the screen because he’s running all the way from the other side of the field, but he’s running the fastest because he’s hustling the most and keeps going until the end without giving up. Besides, SB XIII was a track meet immediately following the new chuck rule change where Dallas also put up 31 points on the Steelers. Was the vaunted Steel Curtain “exposed”?

      The Chuck Howley/Cliff Harris 71 Cowboys set a more significant record that STILL STANDS when they crushed the great Shula Dolphins 24-3, becoming the only team to hold their opponent without a SB TD.

  4. Scott Remington
    March 20, 2018
    Reply

    “Talk about humiliating yourself in a losing cause,” Where is the humiliation in pointing out the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers beat the Cowboys every time they played them during the Pittsburgh Dynasty of ’74-79 (Dallas was 0-4 including two Super Bowls head-to-head)? What is the losing cause in pointing out the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers beat the Cowboys every time they played them during the Pittsburgh Dynasty of ’74-79 (Dallas was 0-4 including two Super Bowls head-to-head)? Landry’s Cowboys got nothing during the Steelers’ Super Bowl run in the ’70s. And they got nothing off of Lombardi’s Packers in the ’60s (0-5 including two NFL Championship games head-to-head) or the Montana/Walsh 49ers’ run in the ’80s (0-4 including The Catch). That’s 0-13. Saying the Landry Cowboys were as good as these great dynasties is ignorant. Didn’t the Landry Cowboys have ANY heart/pride/talent to beat any of these dynasties ONCE during their respective reigns? History says Landry’s Cowboys DID NOT. Still waiting for you to show us how two (Landry’s Cowboys’ world titles) is greater than four (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers’ world titles; Montana/Walsh ‘Niners’ world titles) or five (Lombardi’s Packers’ world titles), Rasputin. You have debunked absolutely nothing.

    PS–Harris didn’t trail Stallworth by 50 yards. He was helplessly CHASING Stallworth for 50 yards (i.e., “too slow”), allowing Stallworth to tie John Mackey’s record, also set on–DALLAS. And Mackey was a tight end with a thick midsection!

    Here comes the Landry Cowboys Excuse Mill: “…Besides, SB XIII was a track meet immediately following the new chuck rule change where Dallas also put up 31 points on the Steelers. Was the vaunted Steel Curtain ‘exposed’?” First off, The Cowboys should have benefited from the chuck rule, as well. It’s not Like the Cowboys were forced to cover one way and the Steelers were allowed to cover another way. Swann and Stallworth were simply a superior tandem to Drew Pearson and Tony Hill (another reason Pearson’s not in the Hall of Fame while the Steelers’ wideouts are in). In Both Super Bowls X and XIII the Cowboys were exposed and overwhelmed in the secondary, Harris being a key casualty. The SB X alibi about “(Pittsburgh) didn’t throw in his area” is nonsense. Harris was a free safety. He was “free” to roam where he saw help was needed. True, Mel Renfro held John Stallworth to two catches for eight yards. A smart free safety would have seen that and gave help to poor Mark Washington. Harris wasn’t too savvy or sharp upstairs, obviously. On the game-winning TD pass from Bradshaw to Lynn Swann, it is true that Harris was blitzing and not in coverage. Problem is he was too slow to get there to prevent the pass attempt. Poor Mark Washington. His free safety failed help him in coverage or on the blitz. Doesn’t surprise me at all that Cliff Harris is not in the Hall of Fame. Mike Wagner and Glen Edwards made more plays than Harris from safety in those Steelers-Cowboys Super Bowl matchups. And in their overall careers (more career INTS, Super Bowl knockouts, etc).

    Secondly, Dallas’ OFFENSE scored 24 points in that Super Bowl. The other TD came when Thomas “Hollywood” Henderson sacked and stripped Bradshaw and Mike Hegman took off with the fumble. Incidentally, “Hollywood” was the only Dallas defender who made any significant impact in SB XIII. Maybe they should have all played while high on cocaine for that game. SMH.

    • Rasputin
      March 20, 2018
      Reply

      You’re stuttering in your first few lines, Scott, which is pretty humiliating. I’ll take your sad diversion back onto claims already debunked on the other page to signify that you concede the 75 Steelers weren’t 3 times better than the 75 Cowboys, and in fact shouldn’t have 3 times as many HoFers. I accept your concession.

      I know Hegman scored, doofus. Dallas committed 3 turnovers too. The Cowboys offense gained 330 yards against the Steel Curtain, only 27 yards fewer than Pittsburgh did. “Exposed”? It became a track meet both ways.

      Pittsburgh threw away from Harris all day in SB X and anyone can see it was CB Aaron Kyle #25 who was in coverage and fell missing the tackle on Stallworth in SB XIII. Harris only got into the highlight clip you saw because he hustled from the other side of the field.

      You clearly have no idea what a free safety does, especially in Landry’s system, a familiar bit of ignorance you shared with a pitiful loser going by the screenname “Joseph Wright” who stopped posting here after a series of crushing debate humiliations around the time you showed up. He liked to follow me around like a butthurt stalker too. Funny timing that.

      You again, of course, completely dodged the 71 Cowboys STILL holding their Super Bowl record after utterly crushing the Shula Dolphins (no 4 point squeaker there), along with every other pertinent fact I posted.

  5. Scott Remington
    March 21, 2018
    Reply

    You are too dumb to distinguish reiteration from stuttering, Rasputin? The only one humiliating themselves regarding the Landry Cowboys is you. You’re the proverbial crybaby trying to make a dollar (in this case, a “dynasty”) out of 15 cents (two world titles in 29, 20, 7 years–I’ll let you decide).

    The ’75 Steelers were better and to the victors go the spoils–and the excess. They were at least twice better than the Landry Cowboys. Four world titles is twice as great as two. And at that time the ’75 Steelers had two SB titles to Landry’s Cowboys one. Going further to Super Bowl XIII, we see that that within SBs X and XIII the Steelers enjoyed 21-10 and 35-17 leads in those respective games. Pittsburgh had more than doubled the score on Dallas. Landry’s Cowboys never did that to the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers. And, of course, in ’77 (Dallas’ SUPER BOWL SEASON!), the Steelers pasted the Cowboys 28-13 and in ’79 the Steelers (in THEIR Super Bowl season) shut down any Cowboys thoughts of revenge, 14-3.

    Then, again, when you consider that two of those Steelers’ Super Bowls came as a result of vanquishing the Landry crew then that has to rank as an extra victory each thus resulting in triple the ratio. Actually, in bringing up “Joseph Wright”–wow, that was random–if any injustice has been done, it is Rayfield Wright going into the HOF before the man who owned him, Steel Curtain member L.C. Greenwood (three or four sacks in SB X). The Hall of Fame thrashing the 70s Steelers have put on Landry’s Cowboys should be 10-3 or even 10-2.

    The Steelers didn’t “throw away from Harris all day” in Super Bowl X. The fact of the matter is that Harris lacked the recognition (“Football IQ?”) to get to where the ball was being thrown. He arrived late to help out his corner on Lynn Swann in the first quarter resulting in a 35-yard gain so the Steelers could tie the game at 7-7. On the juggling catch the made Swann a legend, Harris is NOWHERE to be found on the film–he’s not in on the blitz, for sure. His late arrival on an attempted blitz left Washington alone on Swann, resulting in the game-winning 64-yd. TD grab. If Harris weren’t so slow. Bradshaw doesn’t get off the pass attempt. As for Stallworth dusting Harris for 50 yards en route to a Super Bowl-record 75-yd. TD reception, Stallworth was in the slot on that play (Translation: he and Swann were lined up on the SAME SIDE). Why would it take Harris so long (other than the fact that he was too slow) to come into the play–allegedly, according to you–from the other side of the field? Was Harris that dumb that he was keying on the other side so hard on…RANDY GROSSMAN? Thus putting himself way out of position and his team in jeopardy?

    Emlen Tunnell played in Tom Landry’s defense with the New York Giants, retired as the NFL’s all-time leading INTs leader with 79 (eventually broken by Paul Krause), and is in the Hall of Fame. I have a thorough idea what a free safety does, even within Landry’s system. Harris simply didn’t have the speed or smarts to deal with Swann, Stallworth, or Bradshaw…who are all in the Hall of Fame. Courtesy of Cliff Harris, I guess.

    Lombardi’s Packers, The Super Bowl ’70s Steelers, and the Montana/Walsh 49ers were FAR superior to Landry’s Cowboys. These dynasties never lost to Landry’s Cowboys, beating them a combined 13-0 in regular and postseason competition. Why didn’t the Landry’s Cowboys EVER beat ANY of these dynasties even ONCE?

    The Landry Cowboys crushing the Dolphins or Broncos is on par with the Baltimore Ravens crushing the New York Giants: Got a lead, then shut down an inferior QB. YAWN. The QBs aren’t even worth naming. Bart Starr, Terry Bradshaw, and Joe Montana are first-ballot Hall of Famers who make butt-hurt Landry Cowboys fans like you continue to whine to this day and fabricate and manipulate all kinds of excuses and scenarios to unsuccessfully try to elevate the Landry Bunch to heights they failed–regularly–to attain. You’re embarrassing yourself, Rasputin. Again.

    • Rasputin
      March 21, 2018
      Reply

      “Then, again, when you consider that two of those Steelers’ Super Bowls came as a result of vanquishing the Landry crew then that has to rank as an extra victory each thus resulting in triple the ratio.”

      LOL! No it doesn’t. I see you still suck at math and logic. All those two 4 point games (35-31, and 21-17 with the Cowboys leading most of the game) showed is that the teams were roughly evenly matched in those two years they played (the Cowboys were better by playoff time than any of those teams in 71 and 77), as Ham implied. In fact if they had played 10 times those two years and the Steelers won every game by 4 points the quantity of the games wouldn’t alter how much better they were. It would just confirm they were slightly better (whereas a game or two could be a fluke).

      “The ’75 Steelers were better and to the victors go the spoils–and the excess.”

      Wait, so are you acknowledging the Hofer disparity is “excess”?

      The 80s/90s Bills have as many HoF players as the 92 and 93 Cowboys who TRULY dominated them in two Super Bowls do. Dallas beat Buffalo 30-13 and 52-17. Yet both teams currently have 4 players each in Canton from those years. By your logic how many HoFers should those Cowboys teams have?

      The rest of the BS you posted merits no response. For the record free safeties DO have coverage responsibilities on a play by play basis, often depending on what the defense as a whole is doing on that play, and Cliff Harris was actually pretty fast. He was a collegiate sprinter who even near the end of his career in 1978 ran even with Walter Payton and close to speed demon Greg Pruitt while torching Earl Campbell and Franco Harris in one of those NFL Superstar tv competitions you can find on youtube.

      But please, feel free to keep following me around and crying about my posts. You’re a fun moron to kick around.

  6. Scott Remington
    March 21, 2018
    Reply

    “I see you still suck at math and logic.” This from someone who is STILL ignorantly trying to prove that five (Lombardi’s Packers world titles) and four (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers; Montana/Walsh 49ers world titles) are greater than two (Landry’s Cowboys’ measly world title collection).

    If Cliff Harris “was actually pretty fast,” he would have caught John Stallworth from behind. NFL Superstars competition? When the Cowboys played the Oilers on Thanksgiving 1979, Harris got dusted by Earl Cambell for a 61-yd TD run, despite having a more-than-great angle on Campbell. in 1977–Dallas’ Super Bowl year–Franco Harris dusted past Cliff Harris up the middle for a 61-yd. TD of his own. Don’t take trash sports (e.g., Superstars, Battle of the Network Stars–where Bruce Jenner “tied” O.J.Simpson in a race) so seriously. Obviously, Franco and Earl Campbell didn’t. Especially when they saw Cliff Harris as their, ahem, “competition.”

    “…(whereas a game or two could be a fluke).” There was no fluke about the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers repeatedly beating the Landry Cowboys. Once can be a fluke. Twice could be an accident. Three times or more is a habit. The Steelers domination of the Cowboys during their 1974-79 dynasty is as follows: Super Bowl X–21-17; 1977–28-13; Super Bowl XIII–35-31; 1979–14-3. Pittsburgh beats Landry’s Bunch by four, 15, four, and 11-point margins. It wasn’t “a game or two” and there was no fluke to those outcomes. Stop crying and get over it. Landry’s Cowboys weren’t up to the Steelers’ level.

    Bradshaw. Franco Harris. Lynn Swann. John Stallworth. Mike Webster. Joe Greene. Jack Ham. Jack Lambert. Mel Blount. Who is unworthy of being in the Hall, Rasputin? Why don’t we give L.C. Greenwood the spot occupied by Rayfield Wright. L.C. abused Wright in SB X. Of the first nine (Greenwood would make it a well-deserved ten) Steelers, whose spot would Chuck Howley take? Whose spot would Drew Pearson take? Who was Cliff Harris better than? Who from this group of ten, excuse me, nine is in undeservedly. With the exception of Webster (who was only the best center in the league) all these guys did major damage to Landry’s Cowboys, on the field and ultimately on the scoreboards and in the history books. Mike Wagner and Glen Edwards were better than Cliff Harris.

    • Rasputin
      March 22, 2018
      Reply

      I didn’t bother reading most of your latest teary-eyed meltdown, Scott (I assume you’re upset about the beating you’re receiving on the other page and are just repeating already debunked claims), but I did notice this last line:

      “Mike Wagner and Glen Edwards were better than Cliff Harris.”

      LOL!

      Cliff Harris – 6 Pro Bowls, 3 first team AP All Pros, 1st team 1970s All Decade

      Mike Wagner – 2 Pro Bowls, 0 first team AP All Pros, No All Decade

      Glen Edwards – 2 Pro Bowls, 0 first team AP All Pros, No All Decade

      Cliff Harris was rightly judged by contemporary voters as the best FS in the NFL in the 1970s.

      And this part:

      “Of the first nine (Greenwood would make it a well-deserved ten) Steelers, whose spot would Chuck Howley take? Whose spot would Drew Pearson take? Who was Cliff Harris better than? Who from this group of ten, excuse me, nine is in undeservedly.”

      I didn’t say any were in undeservedly. “Excess” was your word (Freudian slip?). We don’t have to take out HoFers to add more HoFers. That said…..

      Career Receiving Yards
      Drew Pearson – 7,822
      Lynn Swann – 5,462

      Career Receptions
      Drew Pearson – 489
      Lynn Swann – 336

      Career Yards/Game
      Drew Pearson – 50.1
      Lynn Swann – 47.1

      Pro Bowls
      Drew Pearson – 3
      Lynn Swann – 3

      First Team AP All Pros
      Drew Pearson – 3
      Lynn Swann – 1

      NFL Receiving Titles
      Drew Pearson – 1
      Lynn Swann – 0

      1,000 Yard Seasons
      Drew Pearson – 2
      Lynn Swann – 0

      Career Playoff Yards
      Drew Pearson – 1,131
      Lynn Swann – 907

      Career Playoff Receptions
      Drew Pearson – 68
      Lynn Swann – 48

      Both guys were first team 1970s All Decade though (like Cliff Harris), and they both should join Swann in the HoF.

      If head to head results were all that matter, then why are countless guys like Paul Warfield, Bob Griese, Dan Dierdorf, Chris Hanburger, Alan Page etc. in whom the Cowboys routinely beat? Many of them never won a Super Bowl. Dallas won twice in crushing fashion.

      As for Howley, he’s better than lots of guys in the Hall of Fame and should have been in long ago. That’s why the 5 time first team AP All Pro and SB MVP was named first team OLB on historian John Turney’s All Mid Decade Team for 1965-1975, alongside all time greats Dick Butkus and Bobby Bell, and ahead of HoFers on the second team like Dave Robinson, Chris Hanburger, and Dave Wilcox.

      These Cowboys omissions are glaring.

      • Scott Remington
        March 22, 2018
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        Career Receiving Yards
        Drew Pearson – 7,822
        Lynn Swann – 5,462

        Career Receptions
        Drew Pearson – 489
        Lynn Swann – 336

        Career Yards/Game
        Drew Pearson – 50.1
        Lynn Swann – 47.1

        Pro Bowls
        Drew Pearson – 3
        Lynn Swann – 3

        First Team AP All Pros
        Drew Pearson – 3
        Lynn Swann – 1

        NFL Receiving Titles
        Drew Pearson – 1
        Lynn Swann – 0

        1,000 Yard Seasons
        Drew Pearson – 2
        Lynn Swann – 0

        Career Playoff Yards
        Drew Pearson – 1,131
        Lynn Swann – 907

        Career Playoff Receptions
        Drew Pearson – 68
        Lynn Swann – 48

        There are some serious omissions in this comparison:

        Super Bowl Titles
        Swann-4
        Pearson-1

        Super Bowl MVPs
        Swann-1
        Pearson-0

        Super Bowl TDs
        Swann-3
        Pearson-1

        Super Bowl 100-yard receiving performances
        Swann-2
        Pearson-0

        Super Bowl records held or established
        Swann-3
        Pearson-0

        Head-to-head vs. the other (regular season and postseason)
        Swann: 5-0
        Pearson: 0-5

        Now…”(t)hese Cowboys omissions are glaring.”

        How, exactly, is pointing out that one team (Lombardi’s Packers; Super Bowl ’70s Steelers; Montana/Walsh 49ers–take your pick, painful for you as it may be) constantly beat another a “meltdown?” You have debunked nothing. To quote one of the few smart things you’ve said: “Just because you say it (e.g., ‘I’ve debunked everything you’ve said’) it doesn’t make it true.” Again you have debunked nothing. It is history. Landry’s Cowboys never beat Lombardi’s Packers. If the Packers ever lost to or were dethroned by Landry’s Cowboys from 1961-1967, show us. If the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers ever lost to Landry’s Cowboys from 1974-1979, show us. If the Montana/Walsh machine ever lost to the Landry Cowboys from 1981-1989, show us.

        Because, Rasputin, history fully documents that Landry’s Cowboys faced Lombardi’s Packers five times and lost them all. History shows us that Landry’s Cowboys faced the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers four times and got nothing but a beating and roasting (casualties included Jean Fugett, Golden Richards, your beloved Drew Pearson, Cliff Harris, Charlie Waters, and the rest of the Cowboys’ beleaguered secondary) four times. History also shows us that Landry’s Cowboys played the Montana/Walsh ‘Niners and were wasted and squashed every time.

        Putting out harsh facts (the Landry Cowboys were 0-13 vs. these dynasties, therefore they were inferior to these teams–my logic only “sucks” to you because you know it is true) is not a “meltdown.” Being in denial about the facts and constantly bringing up other teams (Rams, Cardinals) to twist and change the subject is an act of desperation–the first step to a meltdown.

        What college or high school contaminated that tic-sized brain of yours so that you defiantly believe that two (Landry Cowboys world titles) is greater than four (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers; Montana/Walsh 49ers) and, even worse, two (Landry’s Cowboys world titles) is greater than five (Lombardi’s Pack)?

        The Landry Cowboys’ Hall of Fame representation is more than fair. The Cowboys of Landry didn’t suffer badly from the constant drubbings at the hands of Lombardi’s Pack, the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers, or the Montana/Walsh 49ers. Some people would say they didn’t suffer enough.

        When it comes down to it, championship competition is purely about beating the competition to determine who is the best: Landry’s Cowboys had ample opportunities to play these respective dynasties (Lombardi’s Packers; Super Bowl ’70s Steelers; Montana/Walsh 49ers), lost to them all constantly without as much as ONE victory, these teams emerged as champions…End of discussion.

        • Rasputin
          March 24, 2018
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          You asked who was the better player, not who had a better 2 games. Drew Pearson was the better player. And, unlike lots of guys in the HoF, he has a SB ring too. So check that box off.

          Here’s a partial list of players Chuck Howley is better than and should have been inducted earlier than:

          Dave Robinson, Dick LeBeau, Robert Brazile, Jerry Kramer, Kenny Easley, Ken Stabler, Dick Stanfel, Mick Tingelhoff, Claude Humphrey, Curley Culp, Jack Butler, Les Richter, Chris Hanburger, Floyd Little, Dave Wilcox, Emmitt Thomas, Charlie Sanders, Roger Wehrli, Gene Hickerson, Fred Dean, John Stallworth, Lynn Swann, Dan Hampton, Joe DeLamielleure, Ozzie Newsome, Henry Jordan, and Bob St. Clair.

          The full list is much longer.

          What’s hilarious about you emphasizing Swann’s SB performance and MVP award is that Chuck Howley was literally Super Bowl MVP too. He was considered for the award again the following year when they won because his play was so impactful.

          To answer your question, your posts constitute a meltdown due, among other things, to their irrationality.

          For example you completely ignoring quantity of seasons in discussions about proper HoF representation by franchise. More seasons = more players and more potential HoFers. Team A doesn’t have to be “better” than Team B during B’s short championship period to have as many great players if Team A existed much longer and/or sustained high success much longer. That’s why the lackluster Cardinals have 12 HoF players, and why you kept dodging any discussion of them on the other page.

          I never claimed the 60s Cowboys beat the Lombardi Packers (another sign of your meltdown are lengthy repetitions of insanely stupid rants, especially when 2 of the players I’m pushing for Canton weren’t even in the NFL yet) but those Packers didn’t last long. The Landry Cowboys certainly beat the Packers a lot overall and had many, many more elite seasons than Green Bay did. More players. More great players. The 70s Cowboys had at least 2 teams that were greater than any Lombardi’s Packers ever fielded in an individual season, but even if you disagree with that assessment the Dallas franchise was at or near the top much longer than Green Bay (and everyone else) was. That’s just a fact. It’s why you have to keep comparing 3 different dynasties and how they fared against the Landry Cowboys. Dallas was the constant among the NFL’s elite from the 60s through the 80s. You’re only proving my point.

          Same story with the 70s Steelers, whose run was great but only lasted a few years and consisted of the same group of players. Before that Landry’s Cowboys beat Pittsburgh 7 games in a row.

          SB wins matter but so do other wins, winning seasons, conference championships, playoff success, etc.. But even teams and players with no Super Bowl success show how underrepresented Dallas is in Canton.

          Landry also went 3-1 against the 49ers in the playoffs. On the other page I document how the 49ers have 7 HoF players from the 1950s-1970s, just as many as the Cowboys, despite SF sucking so bad they only had 4 playoff seasons in that entire span, 1 in 1957 and 3 in the early 1970s when the Cowboys beat them in all 3 of those postseasons.

          The Redskins have 6 HoF players from the 60s/70s, none of whom ever won a Super Bowl. By contrast every Cowboy HoFer has at least 1 SB ring. It’s like a requirement to have been SB champion to even be considered for Canton if you’re a Cowboy.

          As long as you continue to embarrass yourself by obtusely refusing to address these valid, logical points, but continue responding anyway with the same material over and over again that’s already been refuted and/or shown to be irrelevant (meaning your arguments have been debunked), and as long as I enjoy kicking you around, the discussion will continue.

          • Scott Remington
            April 30, 2018

            So many morsels for us Steeler fans to munch on here. All from the ignorant mind of Rasputin:

            “What’s hilarious about you emphasizing Swann’s SB performance and MVP award is that Chuck Howley was literally Super Bowl MVP too. He was considered for the award again the following year when they won because his play was so impactful.” The difference is, dummy, Swann’s SB MVP performance (given fuel by the ignorant pre-game comments and incompetent in-game performance of Cliff Harris) led to a Super Bowl VICTORY. Howley’s SB MVP heist (Mike Curtis was the REAL Super Bowl V MVP) came after his team LOST.

            You also said Drew Pearson, Bob Hayes, and (this is the most humorous and ignorant of all) Tony Hill were better than Swann and Stallworth? Get real. A slowpoke (Pearson), an experiment (Hayes), and a coward (Hill). Rasputin, you have completely lost it.

          • Rasputin
            May 1, 2018

            Your actual ignorance is astounding, Scott Remington, but your reading comprehension and critical thinking ability may be even worse. I just pointed out that Chuck Howley also earned MVP consideration in the SB they WON, by recovering a fumble early that gave Dallas momentum, making tackles, and intercepting Griese late with a 41 yard return to seal the win.

            Regardless, the discussion was about individual merit, particularly big game performance, and team result aside Howley was so good in SB V that he earned the MVP award. Your ignorant lie about Harris has already been obliterated above, by a Pittsburgh source to boot.

            “You also said Drew Pearson, Bob Hayes, and (this is the most humorous and ignorant of all) Tony Hill were better than Swann and Stallworth? Get real. A slowpoke (Pearson), an experiment (Hayes), and a coward (Hill). Rasputin, you have completely lost it.”

            Did you return to the scene of your humiliation here because you’re drunk, LOL? Pearson had better hands, skill, and stats than Swann and is regarded as the greatest clutch WR of all time. He was first team All Pro 3 years to Stallworth’s and Swann’s 1 and first team All Decade. Hayes is the fastest real player in NFL history, averaged more TDs/game his first 2 years than Randy Moss did his much covered first 2 seasons, revolutionized the league, and was the Cowboys’ leading receiver 5 years, including their 1971 championship season. He had 4 different accolade years, more than either Swann or Stallworth, and 2 first team All Pro selections.

            Tony Hill didn’t play as long as Stallworth but he had just as many Pro Bowls as Stallworth and Swann, and he averaged more yards/game, receptions/game, and yards/reception. Hill also led Dallas in receiving yards 8(!) years in a row. Swann and Stallworth combined only led Pittsburgh in receiving 9 seasons. Coward, LOL? Nah. The only coward here is you, boy.

          • Scott Remington
            May 1, 2018

            “Regardless, the discussion was about individual merit, particularly big game performance, and team result aside Howley…” Stop. That’s where the discussion ends. Howley’s team result sucks. Swann’s MVP performance–thanks to the coverage deficiancies of Cliff Harris (“Pittsburgh article.” Really? NFL Films don’t lie)–propelled the Steelers to victory over the Landry Cowboys.

            Three Steelers Super Bowl wins were controversial? Show us your ignorance and chronicle each one.

            I knew something was fishy when you said that “the Cowboys are undefeated vs. the Steelers in the 2010s,” What about the 2000s? While the Steelers were chipping in and got two more Super Bowls for that decade they whupped the Cowboys twice with no defeats. Nice going, coward. Speaking of cowards…

            You had the ignorance to say Tony Hill was a better athlete than John Stallworth. Stallworth jumped as high as Swann, was faster that Hill, and was much, much more courageous and reliable over the middle. If I had $1 million for every time I’ve heard broadcaster Verne Lundquist criticize Hill on national TV for not being willing to go over the middle (“Dropped pass by Tony Hill over the middle. That’s something he doesn’t like to do.”, etc., etc.) I’d be a multimillionaire. Swann and Stallworth were far superior to him. Epic fail as result of another meltdown from the trauma brought on by painful memories of Swann and Stallworth on your part. Swann and Stallworth were superior to Pearson (Swann lapped him in All-’70s votes 21-7; Stallworth had better overall career) and are rightfully in the Hall of Fame–while Pearson IS NOT. Swann and Stallworths Super Bowl Stats and results completely blow Pearson, Hayes, and Hill away.

            For this site I just say:

            Six (Steelers Super Bowl wins) is greater than five (Cowboys Super Bowl wins) and I would rather beat someone two of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowl) than lose to them two of three Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls).

          • Rasputin
            May 7, 2018

            BOOM!! Scott Case just knocked out another Steelers wideout. BOOM!! Darren Woodson took one out too. Larry Brown just intercepted it again.

            Then Scott Remington woke up from his habitual night terror, ashamed to realize he had wet the bed again.

            ““Regardless, the discussion was about individual merit, particularly big game performance, and team result aside Howley…” Stop. That’s where the discussion ends. Howley’s team result sucks.”

            Way to cut my comment off mid sentence because you don’t want to deal with the actual point, coward. So now it’s all about team result, not individual brilliance, LMFAO? You can’t even keep a coherent position. You lose either way, Scott. Howley had both a brilliant individual and team performance in SB 6: 24-3. Oh, and he beat the Steelers the last 7 times he played them.

            NOW the discussion is over.

            “I knew something was fishy when you said that “the Cowboys are undefeated vs. the Steelers in the 2010s,” What about the 2000s?”

            There’s nothing “fishy”, moron. I didn’t say the Cowboys were undefeated against the Steelers in the 2000s. I said they’re undefeated so far in THIS decade. And the 1990s (including in the most recent and decisive head to head Super Bowl; BOOM!). And from the late 1960s to the mid 1970s.

            “You had the ignorance to say Tony Hill was a better athlete than John Stallworth. Stallworth jumped as high as Swann, was faster that Hill, and was much, much more courageous and reliable over the middle.”

            Hill had better body control and explosiveness. And “Verne Lundquist”, LOL? Please. I’ve seen Hill go over the middle a lot and make some really tough catches, though both he and Stallworth were more about the deep ball. Objectively Tony “The Thrill” Hill outgained Stallworth and Swann in yards/game. Hey, I’m just saying…

            “Swann and Stallworth were superior to Pearson (Swann lapped him in All-’70s votes 21-7”

            While you’re wrong about who’s superior to whom, at least you’re conceding that Pearson got the second most All Decade votes out of all the WRs in the NFL, you faceplanting buffoon. LMFAO!!

            On the other page we’ve established that you’re a self contradicting moron who’s alternately insisted that team success is either decisive or irrelevant to HoF worth.

            Either way you lose.

            If it’s irrelevant then Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson, two first team All Decade players and a guy with 5 first team NFL All Pro selections, have brilliant cases and all belong in even if they had lost every game they played.

            If it matters then I appreciate that you keep offering to serve as a prop (punching bag) and reason for me to post this:

            5 20th Century Cowboys SB wins is more than the Steelers’ 4, the Raiders’ 3, and the Packers’ 3, and 16 Landry double digit winning seasons is more than the Steelers’ and 49ers’ 8 (only half what the Cowboys had), let alone the Packers’ meager 6. Landry’s 2 SB wins is also more than the Vikings’ 0, the Rams 0 in that era, the Chiefs’ 1, the Colts’ 1, the Oilers’ 0, and the Browns’ 0 despite those teams and others having more HoFers. 18 is more than 6, 2 is more than 0, and 5 is more than 3.

            Any way you slice it Dallas is underrepresented in Canton.

          • Scott Remington
            May 7, 2018

            “While you’re wrong about who’s superior to whom, at least you’re conceding that Pearson got the second most All Decade votes out of all the WRs in the NFL, you faceplanting buffoon. LMFAO!!”

            It’s not faceplanting, idiot. Two receivers were going to be chosen. SOMEBODY had to finish second. But we all knew it wasn’t going to be Swannie. Drew Pearson was second as Swann crushed him by 14 votes, tripling the score on Pearson 21-7. That 3/1 ratio is also in line with how Swann outplayed Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys met during their respective careers. And it must be noted, the only reason Paul Warfield only got five votes was because he was shackled in a ball-control running offense used in Miami to hide the flaws of its quarterback. Warfield and Swann were both much superior to Pearson. And justice was served as Warfield was inducted into the Hall of Fame as Drew Pearson STILL stands on the outside looking in.

            Your reading comprehension also showed its poor, sorry state as your Chuck Howley-Lynn Swann Super Bowl MVP comparison fell flat and exposed your ignorance for the millionth time. Howley’s “MVP effort” netted a loss. Swann’s MVP performance gave the Steelers a repeat. Thank you, Cliff Harris. Surprisingly, you were being truthful about the Pittsburgh article (http://old.post-gazette.com/steelers/20010729swann0729p5.asp). Not surprisingly, you shot yourself in the foot…AGAIN. For a guy who allegedly isn’t haunted by Swann and Stallworth, you actually read a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article trying to find something–ANYTHING–to erase those memories. Keep trying, stupid! LOL!!! And. as it turns out, Cliff Harris is simply echoing the truths I have been trying to get through that thick, ignorant, in-massive-denial skull of yours.

            1) I have repeatedly told you that Swann took advantage of Harris’ deficiencies in pass coverage in SBs X and XIII. In the PPG, Harris said of Swann’s Hall of Fame induction, “…tell (Swann) he should thank every one of us.” I thank Cliff Harris for being so brutally honest about his massive coverage flaws that Hall of Fame Head Coach Tom Landry brilliantly camouflaged and that the Steelers’ Hall of Fame cast of Head Coach Chuck Noll, Terry Bradshaw, Lynn Swann, and John Stallworth brilliantly and ruthlessly exposed and exploited for a worldwide television audience to see. BTW, In the NFL Films “Greatest Games” documentary on Super Bowl XIII, Harris owned up and said of Swann’s leaping TD catch in the back of the endzone, “That was my fault. He must have been 12 feet in the air.” But of course, Harris does his best Rasputin impersonation: “He caught zero balls in my area. He and Terry Bradshaw listened to me. They didn’t jeopardize his health.” Yeah. Sure, Cliff. Keep telling yourself that. They weren’t listening to you, just exploiting you.

            2) Harris’ lack of smarts on the field and in the media were on full display in SB X. NOW he says of his foolish calling out of Swann, “That’s Lynn’s version. Mine is that the press manipulated me.” And my version: Harris was too stupid just to simply say, “No comment,” “What a dumb question,” “Yes I will hit him,” “Football is a game of hitting.” But NOOO. Harris foolishly said, “He’d better watch his head,” and this self-delusional gem ” ‘If Swann thinks he got hurt against the Raiders, he’ll find out what hurt really is on Sunday.” Tatum and Atkinson struck more fear and force on Swann than Harris and Charlie Waters ever did. It’s not even close. Look at Swann’s stats against the Raiders compared to his stats vs, the Cowboys. And the won-loss records vs. each team/secondary? PLEASE. The Raiders were a far tougher opponent and a worthy foe.

            3) Did I mention toughness? Mel Blount has always said Cliff Branch was the toughest receiver he had to face. Drew Pearson, Tony Hill, and Golden Richards’ names never come up on Blount’s list. Last I checked, none of the Cowboys trio ever sent Blount to the bench like Branch did. Of course, Just as I have correctly stated earlier, Harris is just like other Cowboy fans bemoaning the trashing Jack Lambert gave him. “”The officials didn’t even penalize Lambert,” Harris said. Boo-hoo-hoo. “They never penalized the Steelers the whole game, and they were beating up our guys all day.” I’ve been saying the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers kicked the Cowboys ass every time they played them. Now Cliff Harris is whining about the Cowboys getting beat up? LMAO!!! What happened to, “‘This is pro football, fellas. If he runs into my area, I’m going to knock him out.” Which is what Glen Edwards did to Jean Fugett and Golden Richards and what Mike Wagner did to Drew Pearson in Super Bowl XIII. More from the Cowboys Excuse Machine, courtesy of Cliff Harris: “I think the refs were Pittsburgh fans.” Eyes roll. Although he was an assistant coach for Dallas, Mike Ditka still didn’t forget his Panther lessons learned about reality and logic: “We (Landry’s Cowboys) thought we were the best. They (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers) KNEW they were the best.” When you get an education from the University of Pittsburgh you know these things, Rasputin. Lundquist was the Cowboys play-by-play man for years. He was simply saying about Tony Hill what everyone else–at least, outside of Dallas–already knew: Hill was a prima donna who lacked courage over the middle.

            Beating the Steelers is a Cowboys tradition? What were the collective records of Staubach and Pearson against them? Did they get the memo? The “4-point squeaker” crap of yours is a smoke screen. The Steelers beat up the Cowboys in those Super Bowls. As Jean Fugett, Roger Staubach, Golden Richards, Drew Pearson, Tony Hill, and…Cliff Harris will attest…LMAO!!! Additionally, in Super Bowls X and XIII, the Steelers enjoyed 11- and 18-point leads. Dallas never sat that pretty in those four games of the Steelers chumping them from 74-79. Dallas can have the excess REGULAR season wins title of the ’70s. By virtue of winning the most Super Bowls (FOUR), the Steelers walked away with the far greater title–Team of the ’70s.

            Six (Steelers world titles) is greater than five (Cowboys world titles) and I would rather beat someone two of three (Steelers Super Bowl record vs. Dallas) that lose two of three (Cowboys Super Bowl record vs. Pittsburgh). Loved how Cliff Harris said the Steelers were “beating up” the Cowboys. Rasputin: “Lambert never did that to Harris again (Yes, Steeler Nation, Rasputin is delusional enough to believe Lambert was scared of Cliff Harris) !” Yeah, because Harris never bullied and taunted the kicker–bullying a KICKER?–again. Lambert performed the impossible. He actually knocked a little bit of sense into Cliff Harris! LMAO!!! LOL!!!

          • Rasputin
            May 11, 2018

            “It’s not faceplanting, idiot. Two receivers were going to be chosen. SOMEBODY had to finish second.”

            Yes, Drew Pearson finished second out of ALL THE WRs IN THE NFL. Again, thank you for conceding that, you faceplanting moron. LMFAO!

            Your “argument” must result from the combination of your failure to graduate high school and a psychosomatic concussion you received from your Scott Case/Darren Woodson nightmares.

            “Howley’s “MVP effort” netted a loss.”

            But he was individually brilliant, which was what you earlier claimed is all that should matter in HoF consideration, you hypocritical dimwit.

            Plus Howley had another brilliant performance that helped WIN the Super Bowl the following year, a fact you keep running away from, coward. He also played a big role in Dallas beating Pittsburgh in his last 7 games against them.

            “Surprisingly, you were being truthful about the Pittsburgh article”

            I’m always honest. You’re the serial liar.

            “For a guy who allegedly isn’t haunted by Swann and Stallworth, you actually read a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article trying to find something–ANYTHING–to erase those memories.”

            Memories from before I was born? Nope. I’m a history guy and I love researching contemporary documents of all types. I only cited that Pittsburgh article because it’s a Pittsburgh article and therefore harder for you to dismiss, even if it did take you weeks to find it despite my clear directions.

            I know YOU, on the other hand, really do remember those beat downs in the 90s, including the Super Bowl, all by double digits, along with the Cowboys’ victories in the most recent games. As usual, you’re clearly projecting.

            “I have repeatedly told you that Swann took advantage of Harris’ deficiencies in pass coverage in SBs X and XIII.”

            Yes and I debunked your blind, ignorant assertion, using a Pittsburgh article to boot.

            “The Raiders were a far tougher opponent and a worthy foe.”

            Hogwash. Oakland had one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL through most of the 1970s while the Cowboys had one of the best, especially during Ciff Harris’ peak. As usual the truth is the opposite of your claim.

            “Did I mention toughness? Mel Blount has always said Cliff Branch was the toughest receiver he had to face.”

            Because he was fast. If you truly value going over the middle or sacrificing one’s body (which you don’t) then Drew Pearson should be your guy. Despite being undersized he routinely made the toughest, physically contested catches in traffic, way more than Swann or Stallworth.

            The fighting spirit Pearson spontaneously showed in last year’s draft at Philly (which numerous rivals made sad, scripted attempts to emulate at Dallas this year) was nothing new. It was classic Pearson.

            “And justice was served as Warfield was inducted into the Hall of Fame as Drew Pearson STILL stands on the outside looking in.”

            No, that injustice resulted from turnover due to the contemporary HoF voters, who rightly selected Pearson first team All Decade, being replaced by new voters with a rabid anti-Cowboys bias who had grown up watching “America’s Team” routinely beat their favorite teams and who wanted petty revenge. Your obsessive, irrational, hateful posting here exhibits a similar butthurt mind set. You’ve spent countless hours here crying about a team you don’t root for. The degree to which the Dallas Cowboys own you mind and soul is impressive.

            “Beating the Steelers is a Cowboys tradition? What were the collective records of Staubach and Pearson against them?”

            The Steelers never beat the Cowboys when Dallas had both Howley and Harris.

            “Dallas never sat that pretty in those four games of the Steelers chumping them from 74-79.”

            4 point margins that leave Steeler players admittedly nervous at the end aren’t “chumping”, loser. The Cowboys beating the Steelers by double digits EVERY GAME in the 1990s (including a beautiful 37-7 blow out in 1997) is chumping. If you had any competitive life experience you’d know that.

            “Now Cliff Harris is whining about the Cowboys getting beat up?”

            No, wuss. He was rightly complaining about uneven officiating.

            The rest of your post just repeated already debunked garbage.

            Combined Head to Head Super Bowl Score

            Cowboys – 75
            Steelers – 73

            All Time Head to Head Wins

            Cowboys – 17
            Steelers – 15

            5 20th Century Cowboys SB wins is more than the Steelers’ 4, the Raiders’ 3, and the Packers’ 3, and 16 Landry double digit winning seasons is more than the Steelers’ and 49ers’ 8 (only half what the Cowboys had), let alone the Packers’ meager 6. Landry’s 2 SB wins is also more than the Vikings’ 0, the Rams 0 in that era, the Chiefs’ 1, the Colts’ 1, the Oilers’ 0, and the Browns’ 0 despite those teams and others having more HoFers. 18 is more than 6, 2 is more than 0, and 5 is more than 3.

            Any way you slice it Dallas is underrepresented in Canton.

          • Scott Remington
            May 14, 2018

            Things are so boring, dreary, and lifeless at the Cowboy sites that you conceded and got with Steeler and Packers sites. Oh, well. The masochistic tendencies of Rasputin continue…

            “Yes, Drew Pearson finished second… thank you for conceding that…”

            Your poor reading comprehension continues. I wasn’t conceding anything. I was EMPHASIZING the point that Swann pummeled Pearson for first place by tripling the voting score on Pearson for the All-70s team, to the tune of 21-7. He lapped him. No “four-point squeaker” there! LMAO!!! Additionally, he was 2-0 vs. Pearson in Super Bowl competition and 4-0 (that means undefeated, dummy) overall.

            “But (Howley) was individually brilliant (in Super Bowl V–that’s debatable), which was what you earlier claimed is all that should matter in HoF consideration.” Stay focused, noncollege graduate. The subject was how much exponentially better Lynn Swann’s Super Bowl MVP performance was (where he undressed Cliff Harris’ overrated ass before the whole world on live TV) vs. Chuck Howley’s stupidly rewarded “performance” that was highway robbery without a gun of Mike Curtis. Swann’s SB MVP performance leaves Howley’s in the dust. It’s not even worth discussing. Having a standout game (that’s awarded under dubious circumstances–a losing player is MVP?) does not make a player a HOFer. Keep waiting for the call from Canton, Chuckie. LMAO!!!

            “I’m always honest. You’re the serial liar.”

            Oh, that’s interesting. So what’s your REAL name, troll? Ducking the question wouldn’t be honest. What was Staubach’s record starting vs. the Steelers? Ducking the question wouldn’t be honest. What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? Ducking the question wouldn’t be dishonest. How many times have you seen MY name on one of these sorry Cowboy posts within this website? Ducking that question wouldn’t be honest. Where did you go to college? Did you graduate? Ducking these questions wouldn’t be honest. Ducking any of these questions would also be the act of an enormous coward.

            “I only cited that Pittsburgh article because it’s a Pittsburgh article and therefore harder for you to dismiss…”

            I don’t dismiss it at all. I embrace it. Because your good buddy, Cliff Harris, simply validated facts I have been constantly making to you, despite your ignorance to concede them.

            1) Cliff Harris had a large hand in getting Swann into the Hall of Fame.

            2) The Super Bowl ’70s Steelers beat the Landry Cowboys physically, mentally, psychologically, spiritually, and emotionally. The Cowboy players of that era and fanbase STILL are agonizing. LMAO!!!

            3) Like many Cowboys players and fans, Harris is still whining about Jack Lambert’s unpenalized, unpunished trashing of Harris scrawny, sorry, overrated ass after Harris was taunting and bullying Steeler Roy Gerela–A KICKER! Harris’ wussy move got him trashed. And not a moment too soon. Lambert let Swann and Stallworth handle and expose Harris in subsequent matchups.

            Six (world titles–Steelers) is greater than five (world titles–Cowboys) and I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls).

          • Rasputin
            May 15, 2018

            “I wasn’t conceding anything. I was EMPHASIZING the point that Swann pummeled Pearson for first place by tripling the voting score on Pearson for the All-70s team”

            Leaving Pearson in 2nd place, meaning he received more All Decade votes than EVERY 0THER WR IN THE LEAGUE. Again, thank you for conceding that, moron. AP voters also selected Pearson first team All Pro three times as many years as they did Swann.

            Me: “But (Howley) was individually brilliant (in Super Bowl V)….
            You: “–that’s debatable)”

            He was named MVP, LMFAO, so you’d lose that debate almost as decisively as you’ve gotten your ass kicked all over this site.

            Me: “…., which was what you earlier claimed is all that should matter in HoF consideration.”

            You: “Stay focused, noncollege graduate. The subject was how much exponentially better Lynn Swann’s Super Bowl MVP performance was (where he undressed Cliff Harris’ overrated ass before the whole world on live TV) vs. Chuck Howley’s stupidly rewarded “performance”…. Having a standout game (that’s awarded under dubious circumstances–a losing player is MVP?) does not make a player a HOFer.”

            You stay focused, non-high school graduate. You’re the one basing Swann’s entire case on a couple of games, LOL. You also keep ignoring that Chuck Howley had ANOTHER brilliant performance when Dallas won SB 6 24-3, establishing a defensive record that still stands (Cliff Harris helped with that too). And your lie about Cliff Harris has already been refuted…by a Pittsburgh paper no less.

            That hypocrisy and dishonesty you repeatedly exhibit only showcases your cowardice.

            Me: “I’m always honest. You’re the serial liar.”

            You: “Oh, that’s interesting. So what’s your REAL name, troll? Ducking the question wouldn’t be honest.”

            More lies from you, Scott Remington. I never claimed my real name is Rasputin. Not being stupid enough to give out personal info like name or social security number (you want that too?) isn’t lying nor does ripping you to pieces in debate make one a “troll”. There are some creepy stalker types around, including you. Since you bring it up I don’t even know that your real name is “Scott Remington”. You’ve done nothing to prove that. Not that I really care what your name is, me NOT being a creepy stalker type and all.

            You obsessing over this irrelevant crap just shows how desperate you are. You’ve gotten your clock cleaned on the substantive debate.

            Me: “I only cited that Pittsburgh article because it’s a Pittsburgh article and therefore harder for you to dismiss…”

            You: “I don’t dismiss it at all. I embrace it. Because your good buddy, Cliff Harris, simply validated facts I have been constantly making to you, despite your ignorance to concede them.”

            You mean where he pointed out that none of Swann’s catches came over the middle against him, despite your truly ignorant claims about being “undressed” to the contrary? I’m honestly not sure what sucks more, your reading comprehension or your critical thinking ability. They both suck though.

            “2) The Super Bowl ’70s Steelers beat the Landry Cowboys physically, mentally, psychologically, spiritually, and emotionally.”

            By 4 points, LOL? Wrong.

            “The Cowboy players of that era and fanbase STILL are agonizing. LMAO!!!

            No, pounding the Steelers by double digits in SB 30 (an ACTUAL dominating victory) has done far more to shape the fan base’s mood than a couple of close, controversial games from 40 or more years ago.

            When it comes to facing the Cowboys it’s telling that you have to go back FOUR DECADES to find solace from your nightmares about Dallas trashing your team every game in the 1990s and this decade.

            BOOM!!

            –Scott Remington flinches and glances around looking for Scott Case–

            LMFAO!

            The rest of your post just repeated already debunked garbage.

            Combined Head to Head Super Bowl Score

            Cowboys – 75
            Steelers – 73

            All Time Head to Head Wins

            Cowboys – 17
            Steelers – 15

            5 20th Century Cowboys SB wins is more than the Steelers’ 4, the Raiders’ 3, and the Packers’ 3, and 16 Landry double digit winning seasons is more than the Steelers’ and 49ers’ 8 (only half what the Cowboys had), let alone the Packers’ meager 6. Landry’s 2 SB wins is also more than the Vikings’ 0, the Rams 0 in that era, the Chiefs’ 1, the Colts’ 1, the Oilers’ 0, and the Browns’ 0 despite those teams and others having more HoFers. 18 is more than 6, 2 is more than 0, and 5 is more than 3.

            Any way you slice it Dallas is underrepresented in Canton.

          • Scott Remington
            May 16, 2018

            “And your lie about Cliff Harris has already been refuted…by a Pittsburgh paper no less.”

            What’s the lie? Harris says Swann should thank him for getting Swann into the Hall of Fame. Whenever I have discussed Swann’s record-breaking Super Bowl performances vs. the Cowboys, I have said, “Thank you, Cliff Harris.” At least Harris has given up the Landry Cowboys Denial and owns up to it, unlike you.

            Too bad he still doesn’t own up to making those ridiculous comments in foolishly calling out Swann before Super Bowl X : “…If he thinks he was hurt against the Raiders, wait until he plays against us (Harris and Charlie Waters).” Then, after Swann embarrassed his overrated ass, Harris says, “I was manipulated.” GTFOH! Jack Tatum and George Atkinson were a much greater challenge. Harris and Waters were light work…Thank God.

            Notice there was no response to the other point I emphasized that Harris validated: That Dallas people are STILL whining about Jack Lambert going unpunished for trashing his ass after Harris called himself bullying Roy Gerela. Bullying a KICKER?!? What a wuss Harris was.

            You are the one obsessed and STILL plagued by the nightmares of Swann and Stallworth and the whole SuperBowl ’70s Steelers crew. You don’t see me as THE FIRST to post on a Cowboys article do you? You are the first one here–a full-fledged, butt-hurt Cowboys fan. LOL!!! BTW, the Steelers have won two more Super Bowls in the new millennium. Has Dallas scratched this century?

            Do you have any response for your Cowboy Hall of Famer Mike Ditka, who said: “We (Landry’s Cowboys) thought we were the best. They (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers) KNEW they were the best.” The fact of the matter is, in 1977, the Cowboys were at there absolute peak of the Landry era and the Steelers were suffering through their worst season of their 1974-79 run. and yet the Steelers STILL pounded the Cowboys (the eventual world champs–chumps?), 28-13. The Steelers made all right with the world by dethroning them in SB XIII the next season and then, for good measure in ’79 proved it was no fluke by trashing them again, 14-3, as L.C. Greenwood plowed through Rayfield Wright (who he owned) and knocked Staubach out of the game. The Super Bowl ’70s Steelers beat the Landry’s Cowboys very time they played them. The point spreads were four, 15, four, and 11. Regardless, Landry’s Cowboys walked away with their tails between their legs defeated and beat up every single time. LMAO!!!

            How desperate are you: “Combined Super Bowl Score.” LMAO!!! The Steelers manhandled and beat up the Cowboys in the first two and the Super Bowl record is 2-1 Steelers. LOL!!! The total Super Bowls won is also in the Steelers favor, 6-5. You suck at math. Try, once again, to get accepted into a college. Your ignorance is terminal, Rasputin

          • Rasputin
            May 16, 2018

            “What’s the lie?”

            That Harris was supposedly “undressed” in coverage by Lynn Swann when your own town’s paper confirms the Steelers never challenged Harris or threw to Swann in the vicinity of Harris. Just one of your countless lies that have been thoroughly debunked.

            “Notice there was no response to the other point I emphasized that Harris validated: That Dallas people are STILL whining about Jack Lambert going unpunished for trashing his ass after Harris called himself bullying Roy Gerela.”

            Much of your commentary is so asinine and disconnected from reality that it merits no response. Lambert didn’t “trash” anyone. He ran up behind Harris and pulled him down. Harris popped up instantly and bowed up to Lambert when officials rushed in to intervene. I’ve never heard any Cowboys fan say anything about wanting Lambert penalized (more lies from you). Since you mention it maybe he should have been but there were far more egregious official actions that game.

            Speaking of Steelers being awarded Super Bowl “wins” they didn’t earn on the field, I’ve never seen you address or try to refute that fact I gave you about the official apologizing to the Seahawks years later for screwing them in SB XL.

            “You are the one obsessed and STILL plagued by the nightmares of Swann and Stallworth and the whole SuperBowl ’70s Steelers crew. You don’t see me as THE FIRST to post on a Cowboys article do you?”

            This article involves the Cowboys, halfwit, and either way my posting has focused on the Cowboys and their underrepresentation in Canton. I don’t go around trying to troll the Steelers on unrelated topics out of the blue. I don’t care enough about them to do that. I also already explained that I wasn’t even old enough to have live memories of the 70s Super Bowls, let alone “nightmares”.

            YOU, however, clearly DO have nightmares about those double digit poundings Dallas inflicted on Pittsburgh EVERY GAME in the 1990s (including SB 30, the only non-squeaker in the head to head SB series), and you obviously watched your team lose to the Cowboys every time they’ve played so far this decade.

            Your butthurt over that domination by the Cowboys has sparked the obsessed, bitter hatred that causes you to post countless times trying to troll the team….and only succeeding in helping its case with your idiocy and in amusing others by exposing your own faceplanting ignorance.

            “BTW, the Steelers have won two more Super Bowls in the new millennium”

            If you’re desperate enough to count those two officiating farces as “wins”, sure. So far. But my concern here is the HoF and most of those players aren’t eligible yet anyway.

            The Cowboys won more Super Bowls (and titles of various types and certainly games overall) in the 20th Century than the Steelers did but have several fewer HoFers from that era. That’s a mistake in need of correction.

            “The fact of the matter is, in 1977, the Cowboys were at there absolute peak of the Landry era and the Steelers were suffering through their worst season of their 1974-79 run. and yet the Steelers STILL pounded the Cowboys (the eventual world champs–chumps?), 28-13.”

            And from 1974-1979 the Steelers got pounded by the Raiders, Bengals(LOL!), Oilers, Bills, Rams, Patriots, Vikings, Browns, and Broncos. Some of those teams gave Pittsburgh multiple smackdowns.

            From 1973-1983 the Raiders went 8-2 against the Steelers! That was the “Super Bowl Steelers'” supposed peak, about the only period worth bragging about in their entire, mostly sorry history in the 20th Century. That includes humiliating trouncings of 33-14, 24-7, and 38-10 in the playoffs (ouch! no 4 points squeakers there!).

            In 1974, during the Steelers’ first Super Bowl season, the Raiders SHUT OUT Pittsburgh 17-0. How do you get shut out during your championship season? That’s just…..embarrassing.

            Starting in 1976 the Raiders beat the Steelers 6 games in a row. Pittsburgh didn’t win again until 1984. That covers the supposed high point of Steeler history and they got blanked.

            That’s almost as long a winning streak as the 7 games in a row the Cowboys beat the Steelers from the late 60s through the mid 70s (Landry’s OTHER peak you keep trying to forget).

            The Steelers actually had one of their best seasons in 1972, going 11-3 and making it to the conference championship where they were taken out by the Dolphins. Pittsburgh even beat Oakland that year. But they didn’t beat Dallas.

            The Cowboys beat the Steelers despite missing Staubach with an injury. Fortunately they still had Cliff Harris and Chuck Howley. Cliff Harris intercepted Bradshaw (with a 17 yard return) and contributed a 44 yard kick return. Doomsday held Bradshaw to 12 of 39 (30.8% completion) and a 34.8 rating. It held Franco Harris to a measley 16 yards rushing. Craig Morton actually had an even worse rating than Bradshaw, but Calvin Hill (you forgot about him earlier, oh truly ignorant one) rushed for 108 yards against the Steel Curtain. Walt Garrison rushed for 76 yards on 12 carries, averaging 6.3 y/c (POW! :)). Garrison also added 30 receiving yards and some typically good blocking.

            Walt Garrison went undefeated against the Steelers in his CAREER. He was 5-0 against Pittsburgh. That makes you singling him out for disparaging even funnier. Another one of your ignorant faceplants. In fact Garrison averaged 6.1 y/c against the Steelers overall in his career, higher than his average against any other team except for the 49ers. And that’s not just against the bad Steelers teams of the 60s but against them when they’re making the AFC Championship and have Steel Curtain guys like Joe Greene, Jack Ham, Dwight White, L.C. Greenwood, Andy Russell, Mel Blount, and Mike Wagner in place. In fact Garrison BESTED his career average against the Steelers in that 1972 game.

            Only the 1972 Dolphins have gone undefeated. No one else. And the 71 Cowboys (the other Landry peak you keep trying to forget about) beat…no CRUSHED that team in the Super Bowl immediately preceding that season. That’s more impressive than a win in one of those 2 close games against the Steelers later in the decade would have been.

            “The Steelers manhandled and beat up the Cowboys in the first two and the Super Bowl record is 2-1 Steelers.”

            LOL! The Cowboys ACTUALLY manhandled and beat up the Steelers in SB 30 (and every other game in the 1990s) by a greater margin of victory than those two 4 point squeakers (one of them controversial) combined.

            If you had finished high school, Scott Remington, then maybe you wouldn’t suck at math and life to the degree you do.

            “The total Super Bowls won is also in the Steelers favor, 6-5.”

            So? I’m talking about HoFers, halfwit. The Cowboys won more Super Bowls in the 20th Century, 5-4, and more conference championships, 8-5, and yet have several fewer HoFers than Pittsburgh does from the SB era alone. Dallas also has the highest overall winning percentage of any team, and a winning all time head to head record against Pittsburgh.

            In fact outside of one brief 6 year stretch from 1974-1979 can you name ANY glory period for the Steelers in the entire 20th Century? The Raiders owned you even during that short stretch. The closest you came to having another one was the mid 90s when you finally got back to the SB and the Cowboys trashed you there. Most of the 29 year Landry era was a glory period for Dallas, and the Cowboys had another one in the 1990s. Even in the relatively mediocre (by their own standards) era of the past two decades the Cowboys have won most of their games and are currently undefeated against the Steelers this decade.

            The Cowboys are seriously underrepresented in Canton.

          • Scott Remington
            May 16, 2018

            “‘What’s the lie?’

            That Harris was supposedly “undressed” in coverage by Lynn Swann when your own town’s paper confirms the Steelers never challenged Harris or threw to Swann in the vicinity of Harris. Just one of your countless lies that have been thoroughly debunked.”

            Thank God for live rebroadcast video and NFL Films. Footage of the key early 1st quarter 32-yd grab Swann made in Super Bowl X (NFL Films narrator John Facenda called it “Swann’s kangaroo catch”) was accompanied by Cliff Harris arriving late (translation–too dumb to recognize the play developing despite Bradshaw looking in the receiver’s direction the whole way; and, most notably, too slow) to provide help for Mark Washington. The hit wasn’t crushing at all. Swann bounced up to torment Harris and the Cowboys secondary some more en route to an MVP performance and establishing himself as one of many Cowboys nightmare characters who haunts them to this day. And, of course in Super Bowl XIII, Cliff was caught being late arriving (see translation above) to help his corners on John Stallworth on two TD catches (the second of which Harris is dusted without closing ground for 50 yards with the world watching his bare, overrated ass exposed). On the leaping, back-of-the-endzone catch Swann makes over him, Harris said, “That was my fault. He must have been 12 feet in the air.” Harris didn’t have his corners backs and thanks to his revelations to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette AND NFL Films he he doesn’t have yours either, Rasputin. LMAO!!! So much for Swann (and Stallworth) never burning Cliff Harris. The films and video tape don’t lie. LOL!!! I love it!

            More Harris not having Rasputin’s back (Harris ditched his corners’ as soon as he got the starting gig in Landry’s secondary). I have said Lambert is in the Cowboys and their fan base’s minds for trashing Harris and going unpunished. You said it’s not true. “You don’t know Cowboys fans!” That’s your story. How does Harris feel? “The officials didn’t even penalize Lambert,” Harris said. “They never penalized the Steelers the whole game, and they were beating up our guys all day.” Wah, wah, wah. Quit crying, Cliff. Quit crying Cowboys fans. LOL!!!

            An ex-girlfriend of mine who is a Cowboy fan (not the reason we broke up, I can be perfectly objective; strange bed fellows, however, I admit) and I had afew conversations about the Super Bowl encounters that had happened. I told her Harvey Martin said, “The Dallas Cowboys were a team. The Pittsburgh Steelers were a gang.” To which she perked up and said, “They were a gang!” My response was, “Why do you say that?” Her typical Cowboy fan response? “The Cowboys didn’t play that way!” She essentially–and hysterically, like Rasputin (what else is new?)–was saying that the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers were a dirty team. I simply said, “They just hit hard, baby, that’s all.”

            “Oh, no. The Cowboys didn’t tackle and play like THAT!” she said. I suggested, it would have been nice if they could have found a way to neutralize Lynn Swann.

            And, BTW, the officials “pulled Harris away” for Lambert? Actually it was a well-choreographed (that’s right, “choreographed”) “restraining from Jethro Pugh that got Harris’ scrawny little ass out of harm’s (Lambert’s) way. No doubt, Harris was saying, “You’re lucky he’s holding me back!” LMAO!!! GTFOH!!!

          • Rasputin
            May 16, 2018

            “Footage of the key early 1st quarter 32-yd grab Swann made in Super Bowl X (NFL Films narrator John Facenda called it “Swann’s kangaroo catch”) was accompanied by Cliff Harris arriving late (translation–too dumb to recognize the play”

            Or he was elsewhere in coverage and just hustled across the field real fast as he often did. Cliff Harris was one of the great hustle players in NFL history. Heck, John Stallworth was held to 2 catches for 8 yards. Lynn Swann only had 4 catches all game. On the one TD reception, the only TD Bradshaw threw, Harris wasn’t in coverage at all. He was called to blitz and along with Larry Cole was delivering the (clean) hit that gave Bradshaw a concussion.

            “On the leaping, back-of-the-endzone catch Swann makes over him, Harris said, “That was my fault. He must have been 12 feet in the air.” Harris didn’t have his corners backs and thanks to his revelations to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette AND NFL Films he he doesn’t have yours either, Rasputin.”

            We were talking about SB X, you lying halfwit, in which you specifically claimed Harris’ alleged poor coverage skills were exposed. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette refuted you as I quoted.

            As for SB XIII, you’ve got one or two plays (that leaping Swann catch was only an 18 yard TD; you disparaged plays like that earlier when it was Staubach throwing them). It was a track meet both ways. CBs have to help too and, being 35-31, it wasn’t a perfect game for any defensive player on either side. Was the vaunted Steel Curtain “exposed” too?

            The facts refute your ignorant claims.

            Cowboys Pass Defense Ranking

            With Harris
            1975 – 8th
            1976 – 7th
            1977 – 2nd
            1978 – 5th
            1979 – 3rd

            Without Harris
            1980 – 16th
            1981 – 21st
            1982 – 11th
            1983 – 27th
            1984 – 5th
            1985 – 26th

            And remember on the other page when you spent several posts claiming that it was Harris’ fault that the pass defense rankings dipped some when he first joined the team…….until I posted game by game facts showing they vastly improved when he went from backup to starter? You shut up about that after that, LMFAO!

            Talk about crushing you with a sledgehammer blow. The only thing that’s been “exposed” here is your obsessive stupidity.

            ” I have said Lambert is in the Cowboys and their fan base’s minds for trashing Harris and going unpunished. You said it’s not true. “You don’t know Cowboys fans!” That’s your story. How does Harris feel? “The officials didn’t even penalize Lambert,” Harris said. “They never penalized the Steelers the whole game, and they were beating up our guys all day.” Wah, wah, wah. Quit crying, Cliff. Quit crying Cowboys fans. LOL!!!”

            That was on offhand comment by Harris himself, whom it happened to, not Cowboys fans, you drooling moron. As for the more general comment he was objectively criticizing the uneven officiating, something plenty of non-Cowboys fans have done. You’re the one crying about people telling the truth.

            Speaking of which, how did you feel when the official apologized to the Seahawks for screwing them in Super Bowl XL? It’s sort of hard to dismiss the criticism when the official himself admits it, LMFAO.

            Does that cheapen the “victory” any in your mind, or are you too gutless and myopic an animal to care?

            “An ex-girlfriend of mine who is a Cowboy fan”

            Stop lying, Scott. Nobody believes you’ve ever had a girlfriend.

          • Scott Remington
            May 19, 2018

            Yeah, Rasputin. Lynn Swann, Jack Lambert, and the rest of the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers crew are still haunting you and most of the Cowboys players and fanbase badly. Make no mistake about it. This is a STEELERS posting site. Former Pittsburgh linebacker Jack Ham (solar systems better than Chuck Howley; That’s the difference between a Hall of Famer and a pretty good player) is discussing the Steelers first repeat. The WHOLE season. Not just the self-hyping, excuse-making Landry Cowboys.

            You are desperately crawling onto this Steelers post constantly and unsuccessfully trying to convince the audience here (who are not buying into the Landry Cowboys propaganda) that Landry’s Cowboys were equal to or better than the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers. Let me remind you of the quote you continue to cowardly duck from Hall of Famer Mike Ditka (former Pitt Panther Alum and former Dallas Cowboy player and assistant coach; perfectly objective observer): “We (Landry’s Cowboys) thought we were the best. They (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers) KNEW they were the best.” And let me reiterate, former Cowboys play-by-play broadcaster Verne Lundquist seems to have gotten over his Steelers agony. As has Rick Gosselin.

            Regarding Cliff Harris lack of deep help on Lynn Swann’s early first quarter 32-yard catch, Rasputin showed his ignorance once again:

            “Or was (Cliff Harris) elsewhere in coverage and just hustled across the field real fast as he often did? Cliff Harris was one of the great hustle players in NFL history…On the one TD reception, the only TD Bradshaw threw, Harris wasn’t in coverage at all. He was called to blitz and along with Larry Cole was delivering the (clean) hit that gave Bradshaw a concussion.

            First part: Why would Harris be elsewhere in coverage? Bradshaw stares down Swann the WHOLE way. It’s on film and video tape. Isn’t it the free safety’s job to read (that’s what the INTELLIGENT ones do) the quarterback and go to where the ball is going? He was late getting over to tackle Swann because he was too slow (physically: lack of speed AND mentally: lack of football smarts) not because he was “hustling.” And, when Harris finally did arrive (Swann: “What took you so long, Cliff?”), he didn’t deliver a crushing, telling hit. Swann bounced up like be had been struck by a roll of toilet paper. Second part: The game-winning TD Bradshaw threw to Swann was his SECOND TD pass of Super Bowl X. “Swann’s kangaroo catch” set Pittsburgh up for Bradshaw’s TD throw to Randy Grossman to tie the game at 7-7, remember, dummy-in-denial? And you call yourself “a historian.” GTFOH!! As for the 64-yd TD bomb that Bradshaw completed to Swann, Harris’ lack of speed was a factor again. He was too late coming in on the blitz, enabling Bradshaw to get off the pass. D.D. Lewis had a less direct route to Bradshaw than Harris and STILL got there first. And…PLEASE. Stop giving Harris credit and a place in history he DOES…NOT…DESERVE. Larry Cole was the guy who knocked out Bradshaw. By the time Harris arrived–late–with his slumber party “tackle,” Bradshaw was already out on his feet going down. Phyllis George could have knocked Terry Bradshaw to the ground in that situation. BOY George could have knocked Bradshaw to the ground in that situation. Phyllis also had better hair than Harris (LOL!).

            I loved the middle part of that paragraph so much that I saved it for now. It exposes the Rasputin lies, hypocrisy, and cowardly nature that are the essence of Rasputin:

            “Heck, John Stallworth was held to 2 catches for 8 yards. Lynn Swann only had 4 catches all game.” Let’s break this down one-by-one

            1) Rasputin Lies–You are lying by omission here. How long did Swann travel in SB X on his “only 4 catches all game?” Yes, Stallworth was held to two catches for eight yards by Mel Renfro (the only HOF-worthy member of the Cowboys secondary playing in SB X). Why did you list Stallworth’s yards and not Swann’s? Huh? What were you trying to hide?

            2) Rasputin Hypocrisy–You’re the one ALWAYS talking about how yards tell the story and how they are so “important”. Yet here you try to totally omit the yards (a record-setting 161, btw) Swann accumulated on “only” four catches. He AVERAGED 40 yards a catch, on multiple receptions–in a Super Bowl!!! The grandest stage in all of football!!!

            3) Rasputin Cowardice–Why did you on this and other posts try to be slick (I keep telling your dumb, trailer park ass that you are way too dumb and stupid to pull that off) and refuse to mention that Swann tatooed Harris for 161 yards–after Harris foolishly called him out the days before the game (“manipulated” by the media. Yeah, right. Everybody is “misquoted” when they fall flat on their face AFTER talking s—). The 161 receiving yards established a Super Bowl game record that stood for 12 years and the 40-yards-per-catch on multiple catches record STILL stands. Why have you tried–unsuccessfully–to hide this?

            As a historian, Rasputin, you have only exposed yourself as an truth-omitting liar, a hypocrite, and a coward who is afraid to face and deal with reality. And the reality is this: The Super Bowl ’70s Steelers were far better than the Landry Cowboys. During their 1974-79 world title run, Pittsburgh beat Dallas every time they played them. The Super Bowl ’70s Steelers swatted the Landry Cowboys aside in every rematch (lack of opportunities weren’t a problem for Landry’s Cowboys; Seems like Pittsburgh rematches should have been circled in red ink for motivation; Did Dallas have any pride or courage?). The ramifications of Super Bowl XIII are profound and justified: The Steelers are recognized as the team of the decade (So Dallas won 100 more regular season games in the ’70s than Pittsburgh; Who cares?) and had several players deservedly put in the Hall of Fame and Dallas is complaining about borderline guys who were left out due to arrogant delusions of entitlement. The Landry Cowboys–The Hilary Clintons of Pro Football.

            Once again: What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starter vs. the Steelers? Was Drew Pearson’s record vs. Pittsburgh any better? Why did Lynn Swann crush Drew Pearson in the Team of the Decade (’70s) voting 21-7? If Drew Pearson was the 2nd best WR of the ’70s, why is the 3rd best WR of the ’70s in the HOF and Pearson is STILL out in the cold? Wasn’t Drew Pearson (2nd) better than Paul Warfield (3rd)? Or were the All-Decade voters trying to cover a mistake they made–again.

            The ONLY reason Chuck Howley and sorry-ass Cliff Harris were undefeated vs. Pittsburgh in the ’70s is because Swann, Stallworth, and Jack Lambert were still in college–somewhere you’ve never been as a student, nor graduated from but THEY did.

            As for “…and remember on the other page when you spent several posts claiming that it was Harris’ fault that the pass defense rankings dipped some when he first joined the team…….until I posted game by game facts showing they vastly improved when he went from backup to starter? You shut up about that after that, LMFAO!” Oh, are you talking about when I correctly pointed out that after ranking 3rd vs the pass WITHOUT Cliff Harris in the starting secondary featuring two HOF corners (Herb Adderley and Renfro) in 1970, the ’71 Cowboys were dragged down by the anvil-like deficiencies of Harris all the way to 19th? Followed by rankings of (in succession) 19th (again), 16th, and 14th. So, it would take Landry the equivalent of an entire presidential term before he could find a way to camouflage Harris’ major flaws (lack of speed; poor football IQ) to bring the rankings up.

            Those rankings were improved–on paper. Obviously, Chuck Noll, Bradshaw, Swann, and Stallworth weren’t buying Landry’s smoke and mirrors job with Harris and burned his ass big-time–ON THE FIELD. I remember asking you why the freefall after Harris’ (undeserved) promotion. Your best rocket scientist answer: “I don’t know.” LMAO!!! LOL!!! LMAO!!! LOL!!! You are STILL that dense to realize or fail to realize that Harris’ presence dragged them down.

            “And only a complete wuss who knows nothing about fighting would say Lambert ‘trashed’ Harris when he ran up behind and pulled him down. Harris popped up immediately and bowed up to Lambert and by then the officials were on the scene so neither guy wanted to draw a penalty. If anything Lambert’s act was a cowardly cheap shot and, as Harris noted, he never repeated it.”

            Harris got trashed by Lambert, Just like I have trashed you regularly on this site AND the Lombardi’s Packers site. Ran up from behind? Harris was the “wuss” who was bullying a KICKER behind Lambert. What’s Lambert supposed to do, idiot? Run (walk?) over to position himself in front of Harris while Harris continues to try to…molest Roy Gerela? A KICKER? What the hell was Cliff Harris doing? And as the films and video show, Harris gets up and sees it’s Lambert and immediately starts backing up and, in a choreographed (we could all see through THAT) move to save Harris from further embarrassment from a real ass-whipping, Jethro Pugh pulls Harris away (Harris: “You’re lucky he’s holding me back, Lambert” LMAO!!! GTFOH). THEN the officials moved in.

            Worth repeating: “If anything Lambert’s act was a cowardly cheap shot and, as Harris noted, he never repeated it.” That is YOU, Rasputin. A Cowboys fan. Like I have always pointed out (which you vehemently denied; Doesn’t matter. You know I’m telling the truth) Cowboys fans have been whining about Lambert’s trashing of Cliff Harris for years just as you did right there. Which is really the ‘cowardly cheap shot?” Bullying a kicker? Or defending your teammate (the kicker) who is being bullied by an overrated wuss? Lambert never repeated his act of chivalry only because Cliff Harris never repeated his wussy, stupid, cowardly act of bullying. Bullying a KICKER? SMH.

            Six world titles (Steelers) is greater than five (Cowboys), Winning two out of three matchups (Steelers vs Cowboys in head-to-head Super Bowls) is better than losing two out of three matchups (Cowboys vs. Steelers in head-to-head Super Bowls), and may Swann, Stallworth, and Lambert stay permanently in all Landry Cowboys’ players and fans’ nightmares. LOL!!!

          • Rasputin
            May 20, 2018

            Wait…what’d you say, Scott? I was watching SB 30 and couldn’t hear you over the sound of Steelers receivers getting laid out.

            BOOM!!!!!

            There goes another one. LMFAO!

            You’re clearly projecting with the nightmare stuff, Scott. That was the most deranged rant of your entire meltdown so far. Your mouth had to have been foaming as you typed that crap. There’s no way it wasn’t. From skimming your post it looks like almost all those rambling paragraphs are you just repeating stuff you’ve already said that’s been debunked, except now it’s even less coherent than it was the previous times you posted it. Here’s something you dodged, you cowardly wuss:

            Me: “In fact outside of one brief 6 year stretch from 1974-1979 can you name ANY glory period for the Steelers in the entire 20th Century?”

            Scott Remington: *crickets*

            What’s wrong, Scott? Can’t name a single glory period for the Steelers in the entire 20th Century outside of that one fluky 6 year stint when the right roster fell together? They’ve existed since the 1930s. That’s just sad.

            The Cowboys have had a winning record in every decade of their existence, even the expansion 60s.

            The Steelers had a losing record in the 1930s, the 1940s, the 1950s, AND the 1960s, and it wasn’t even close any of those decades. They only missed having a losing record in the 1980s by 2 games.

            What’s it like rooting for a team that’s posted losing records for almost half the decades it’s existed? Despite joining the league in 1933 the Steelers never won an NFL championship before the Super Bowl era.

            In all those decades Pittsburgh only made the playoffs once! It was 1947. They lost 21-0 to the Eagles.

            Think about it. All the bragging you’re doing…the countless lame attempts at trash talk….all the pride you carry around as a Steelers fan and wear as a component of your identity….indeed those stupid articles touting the success of the “Steeler Way”….Your franchise basically just won a game of Bingo. One game. A short 6 year stint in the 1970s. Luck.

            Pittsburgh sucked for its entire long history before that, and then when that one roster started to erode it went back to sucking. “Steel City”! “Lunch Pail mentality”! LOL! There was no grand system put into place that constructed a championship team in logical fashion. They didn’t just reload after the players wore out. Noll wasn’t a football genius. From 1980 through his retirement after 1991, the entire second half of his career, he only posted one double digit winning season. He was barely above .500 for that overall period. There was nothing magic about the Rooneys either. The same family owned the team since the beginning, including all those years of sucking. So much for the “Steeler Way”.

            Teams just get lucky with new talent sometimes that lands together at the right time. Even during that one short glory period the Oakland Raiders absolutely owned the Steelers. Those were some humiliating beatdowns they put on your team in the playoffs in particular. By your own logic they “exposed your sorry asses”.

            On the other page you called the Cowboys “bullies”, I guess your clumsy way of trying to claim that they only beat up on weak teams rather than strong teams. One reason that’s asinine is that the Dolphins won more SBs in the early 70s than any other team, including an undefeated season, and yet the Cowboys crushed them 24-3. And when Dallas beat Miami and Denver they didn’t just blow them out, but set various records that still stand today.

            The second reason that’s asinine is that the Steelers were the bullies. They did well for a short while when the breaks were falling their way and then as soon as they weren’t (aka they got punched in the mouth) they pretty much fell off a cliff. The Steelers were sorry for decades until the 6 year (really 4 years spread apart) SB period and then went to being sorry again. Same thing with the Lombardi Packers.

            By contrast Landry’s teams were the very best at their best, but they still mostly won when they weren’t their best. The Cowboys weren’t bullies but hard fighting, hustling teams that overcame odds and won in heroic fashion. That’s why they were able to rise to the NFL’s elite so soon after being founded, despite getting royally screwed over their first season by having to start a year early and not getting to participate in the regular draft. It’s why they played teams like the Packers, Colts, and Steelers so close on the biggest stage when those teams were at their best (the reverse typically wasn’t true). It’s why they were able to reload and remain contenders even when their roster turned over and they lost great players.

            The 1975 Cowboys were a WILD CARD team, the first to make it to the Super Bowl, that was rebuilding that season and had an unusually high number of new draft picks make the team.

            The Cowboys had countless comebacks and won countless upsets. Landry, Staubach, and most of the other players represented themselves with class. That’s why they became America’s Team. And it’s why you resent them so much that it’s warped your mind. 🙂

            “And let me reiterate, former Cowboys play-by-play broadcaster Verne Lundquist seems to have gotten over his Steelers agony. As has Rick Gosselin.”

            Rick Gosselin is a Lions fan from Michigan, you idiot. You’re not even aware of your surroundings. At least read the writers’ bios.

            “The game-winning TD Bradshaw threw to Swann was his SECOND TD pass of Super Bowl X.”

            I know. I was saying that was the only one he threw to Swann. You were hyping up Swann, not Grossman.

            “1) Rasputin Lies–You are lying by omission here. How long did Swann travel in SB X on his “only 4 catches all game?””

            I’m not lying, you idiot. You’re the only one here who’s been busted lying. Everyone already knows he had a big yardage game. I made the point that all those yards came on only 4 plays. It’s hard to argue that Harris was “undressed” and “exposed” in coverage when it was just 4 plays, and when he wasn’t even in coverage for all of them but called to blitz. It’s not like he was worked on all day.

            Add to that the fact that none of Swann’s catches came remotely close to Harris and you’ve been exposed as an ignorant blowhard.

            “Yes, Stallworth was held to two catches for eight yards by Mel Renfro (the only HOF-worthy member of the Cowboys secondary playing in SB X).”

            LOL! I love how you give all the credit to the CB for shutting down Stallworth but the blame to safety Harris instead of CB Mark Washington for Swann’s 4 catches. You’re a clownish hypocrite, Scott Remington. You don’t possess an ounce of integrity.

            Cliff Harris was rightly chosen first team All Decade and belongs in the HoF.

            “And, when Harris finally did arrive (Swann: “What took you so long, Cliff?”), he didn’t deliver a crushing, telling hit. Swann bounced up like be had been struck by a roll of toilet paper.”

            No one delivers a crushing hit every time, you idiot (and since when does a roll of toilet paper knock someone down, LOL? Apart from a huge wuss like you maybe). Harris knocked out a long list of WRs though, including Rick Upchurch in SB XII. If Bradshaw and Swann didn’t spend all day avoiding Cliff he might have added Lynn to that list. Harris certainly hit Swann harder than Lambert pulled Harris down from behind though, and yet you stupidly called that a “trashing”, LMFAO.

            “He was too late coming in on the blitz, enabling Bradshaw to get off the pass. D.D. Lewis had a less direct route to Bradshaw than Harris and STILL got there first.”

            Harris actually wrapped him up for the tackle though and Bradshaw wouldn’t have escaped. As for supposedly being “late”, safety blitzes usually don’t even get to the QB, you ignoramus. Cliff Harris did.

            “And…PLEASE. Stop giving Harris credit and a place in history he DOES…NOT…DESERVE. Larry Cole was the guy who knocked out Bradshaw.”

            I never said otherwise. I just said Harris was in on the hit. The double impact made a concussion more likely.

            “The Steelers are recognized as the team of the decade (So Dallas won 100 more regular season games in the ’70s than Pittsburgh; Who cares?) and had several players deservedly put in the Hall of Fame”

            See? You need to make up your mind whether HoF status is about team success (“DYNASTY!!!”) or “individual brilliance”. If you had finished high school maybe you would have grasped that on your own.

            “The Landry Cowboys–The Hilary Clintons of Pro Football.”

            Until you get more consistent, honest, and smarter Scott Remington is the Hillary Clinton of this site. Also you keep losing, LMFAO. I’ve kicked your ass all over these pages.

            “If Drew Pearson was the 2nd best WR of the ’70s, why is the 3rd best WR of the ’70s in the HOF and Pearson is STILL out in the cold? Wasn’t Drew Pearson (2nd) better than Paul Warfield (3rd)? Or were the All-Decade voters trying to cover a mistake they made–again.”

            Or maybe the pros in place who actually watched him play had it right the first time and the new generation that replaced them made the mistake by excluding him. The anti-Cowboys bias really started raising its head from the 1980s onward.

            “The ONLY reason Chuck Howley and sorry-ass Cliff Harris were undefeated vs. Pittsburgh in the ’70s is because Swann, Stallworth, and Jack Lambert were still in college–”

            Guess we’ll never know since Howley, Lilly, and them retired before those three arrived. Otherwise maybe the Cowboys just keep beating Pittsburgh throughout the late 70s like they did those previous 7 games in a row.

            “As for “…and remember on the other page when you spent several posts claiming that it was Harris’ fault that the pass defense rankings dipped some when he first joined the team…….until I posted game by game facts showing they vastly improved when he went from backup to starter? You shut up about that after that, LMFAO!” Oh, are you talking about when I correctly pointed out that after ranking 3rd vs the pass WITHOUT Cliff Harris in the starting secondary featuring two HOF corners (Herb Adderley and Renfro) in 1970, the ’71 Cowboys were dragged down by the anvil-like deficiencies of Harris all the way to 19th?”

            LOL!! You just doubled down on your faceplant. That’s awesome. Remember Harris didn’t start the first 3 games of the season. Waters started at FS and Harris eventually took his place.

            1971 Dallas Defense Regular Season

            Without Harris Starting
            186 passing yards/game allowed, 285.3 total yards/game allowed, 21.3 points/game allowed

            With Harris Starting
            160.5 passing yards/game allowed, 237.45 total yards/game allowed, 14.36 points/game allowed

            The numbers show the decline wasn’t his fault. That’s without getting into his excellent contribution as a kickoff returner, where the speedy, athletic, fearless Harris averaged 28.4 yards/kick that year.

            Crushing you with sledgehammer facts that totally destroy your moronic claims never gets old.

            “So, it would take Landry the equivalent of an entire presidential term before he could find a way to camouflage Harris’ major flaws (lack of speed; poor football IQ) to bring the rankings up.”

            See? I’ll do it again.

            Dallas Pass Defense Rankings

            With Harris
            1975 – 8th
            1976 – 7th
            1977 – 2nd
            1978 – 5th
            1979 – 3rd

            Without Harris
            1980 – 16th
            1981 – 21st
            1982 – 11th
            1983 – 27th
            1984 – 5th
            1985 – 26th

            That’s some “camouflage”, LMFAO. Landry somehow convinced his entire secondary to play vastly worse the several years after Harris retired just to make that one player look good in retrospect…..for some reason. You’re like an insane conspiracy theorist. Damn, you’re a moron.

            Harris was fast (a collegiate sprinter who showed he still had it near the end of his career in a televised Superstars competition), had a 39 inch vertical (I can tell you lack a sports background so look up how good that is), and was ESPECIALLY noted for his extremely high football IQ.

            As is often the case the truth is the opposite of your claim.

            “Harris was the “wuss” who was bullying a KICKER behind Lambert.”

            How, by playfully patting him, LOL? That’s what you call “bullying”? You’re the wuss. At least he didn’t run up behind him and pull something like an actual coward.

            “And as the films and video show, Harris gets up and sees it’s Lambert and immediately starts backing up and, in a choreographed (we could all see through THAT) move to save Harris from further embarrassment from a real ass-whipping, Jethro Pugh pulls Harris away (Harris: “You’re lucky he’s holding me back, Lambert” LMAO!!! GTFOH). THEN the officials moved in.”

            Repeating lies doesn’t make them true. Actually the video shows Harris getting up and taking a step toward Lambert as the official standing right by them turns around and starts talking to them. Neither of them moved toward the other after that because they didn’t want to hit their teams with a flag.

            The video over the years also shows that Cliff Harris didn’t back down from anyone, whether it was stoning Walter Payton one on one squared up in the playoffs or sacrificing his body to knock big John Riggins several yards out of bounds.

            “You know I’m telling the truth) Cowboys fans have been whining about Lambert’s trashing of Cliff Harris for years just as you did right there.”

            You still haven’t named these alleged “fans”. I didn’t even bring that little cheapshot up, liar. You did.

            “Lambert never repeated his act of chivalry”

            Chivalry, LOL? Lambert was upset that they missed the field goal. That’s why he snapped and cheap shotted Harris (though not violently) when he heard him do some mild taunting. He was lucky no official saw it (the Steelers had a lot of luck with officiating in SBs).

            The Cowboys have a winning all time record against the Steelers. Chuck Howley beat them the last 7 times he played them and Dallas beat Pittsburgh by double digits every time they played in the 1990s. The Cowboys’ margin of victory in the most recent head to head Super Bowl was greater than the two fluky 4 point squeakers in the 70s combined. Dallas is undefeated against the Steelers so far in the 2010s. The Cowboys have the highest all time winning percentage in the league. To the extent team success is a factor to consider they are sorely underrepresented in Canton.

          • Scott Remington
            May 21, 2018

            Rasputin Character Profile:

            STILL ducking simple questions–“What was Roger Staubach’s starting record vs. Steelers?” “What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. Steelers?’

            STILL ducking Mike Ditka’s acknowledging the truth–“We (Landry’s Cowboys) thought the were the best. They (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers) KNEW they were the best.”

            STILL frothing at the moth and losing it in anguish at the mention of three names–Lynn Swann, John Stallworth, and Jack Lambert.

            STILL in denial about Cliff Harris’ pass coverage deficiencies–Lack of speed and smarts; Playoff records falling all over the place when he is anchoring at free safety; a top 10 pass defense falling dramatically the first four seasons he is in the lineup, despite the presence of Mel Renfro and Herb Adderley, Hall of Fame corners.

            STILL lying by omission to help Landry Cowboy Legacy–Not mentioning Swann’s record-setting 161 receiving yards; Not mentioning Stallworth’s record setting FIRST HALF in SB XIII; Not mentioning the Steelers owned Dallas from 1974-79; Not acknowledging that Dallas allowed the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers to make them their chumps; Not mentioning the fact that the Steelers owned the Cowboys in the ’80s and 2000s

            STILL desperately crawling back to Steeler-based sites–Continuing to fight the lost cause of trying to make the Landry Cowboys seem better or even equal to the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers. It’ll NEVER work. The films, video, and record books don’t lie like you, Rasputin.

            “You still haven’t named these alleged “fans”. I didn’t even bring that little cheapshot up, liar. You did.” Yeah but you started frothing at the mouth spewing nonsense as soon as I brought it up. Just Like many Cowboys fans. Name them? I have about as much chance of doing that as I do naming everyone who has ever gone to Texas Stadium. I’m definitely no going to put the ex-girlfriend Cowboy fan out there (“The Cowboys didn’t play that way!” “My poor Cowboys.” Eyes roll.) Give us your real name, that would be a start. No one’s going to waste their time stalking you. You can move the trailer park at any time.

            Six (world titles-Steelers) is greater than five (world titles–Cowboys). And I would rather win two of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose two of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). We KNOW you’ll be crawling back for more on this STEELER post, you sad, tormented Cowboy whiner. Seek counsel with Verne Lundquist. HE got over HIS Steeler agony. LOL!!!

          • Rasputin
            May 16, 2018

            And only a complete wuss who knows nothing about fighting would say Lambert “trashed” Harris when he ran up behind and pulled him down. Harris popped up immediately and bowed up to Lambert and by then the officials were on the scene so neither guy wanted to draw a penalty. If anything Lambert’s act was a cowardly cheap shot and, as Harris noted, he never repeated it.

            An actual trashing is what I’ve done to you all over this site.

  7. Scott Remington
    March 26, 2018
    Reply

    Had to put this on this post, too. It looks so damn GOOOD.

    Five (Lombardi’s Packers’ World Titles) is greater than two (Landry’s Cowboys meager World Title total); Four (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers World Titles; Montana/Walsh 49ers’ World Titles) is greater than two (Landry’s Cowboys meager World Title total); Stop bragging about dominating weak teams (Post-Lombardi Packers; Pre-’74, Post-’82 Steelers; Pre-Montana/Walsh 49ers; Pre-’85 Bears) while making excuses about being flushed by true dynasties constantly (0-13) without as much as even ONE win–all the while while lying to the world, saying, “We’re the better team.”

    I’m positive more misguided Rasputin ignorance is on the way. I live to expose you–constantly. Thank God, you can’t say #MeToo. LOL!!!

    • Rasputin
      March 27, 2018
      Reply

      Those “weak teams” matter because they have about as many or sometimes more HoFers than the entire Landry era Cowboys do, you idiot, as do numerous other teams who never won a Super Bowl or only won one, as I’ve documented while mopping the floor with you on the other page. You know…the page where you mistakenly posted your response to my partial list above of HoFers Howley is better than, LOL.

      Don’t worry, I had fun debunking that reply too on the other page.

      • Scott Remington
        March 27, 2018
        Reply

        Still can’t get by the fact that five (Lombardi’s Packers’ world titles) is greater than two (Landry’s Cowboys’ world titles), huh, Rasputin?

        On other fronts, have you found the formula to make two (Landry’s Cowboys’ world titles) greater than four (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers; Montana/Walsh 49ers’ world titles)?

        How about explaining to us in your own infinite Landry Cowboys Wisdom (translation: Rasputin knows just enough to know nothing) how a team (Landry’s Cowboys) that loses 13 straight games to bonafide dynasties is better than those juggernauts (Lombardi’s Pack; Super Bowl ’70s Steelers; Montana/Walsh 49ers)?

        • Rasputin
          March 28, 2018
          Reply

          You realize everyone can read what you posted and see that it doesn’t address what I posted, can’t you? In fact you dumbly doubled down on what I just mocked you for. Your reading comprehension is as poor as your math skills.

          • Scott Remington
            March 28, 2018

            “But I’ll add that I do appreciate you admitting on the other page that Howley was better than about half the names I listed above on this page…So either you don’t think half or more of those people belong in Canton, or you’re implicitly conceding Chuck Howley does.” Don’t try to be crafty because you are not. Of the LESS THAN HALF (“about half”…still trying to mislead readers, huh, Rasputin?) the players Howley was better than, that doesn’t even suggest I “concede” that Howley is a HOFer. Let’s say Willie Gault was undeservedly given a spot in the HOF. Wes Welker was a far better player than Gault. But I know Welker isn’t a HOFer, either. Can’t get away from your lying, deceptive ways and just accept the truth can you, Rasputin?

            Howley, Harris, and Pearson aren’t in the Hall of Fame because they don’t deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.

            Let’s look at some of the people who are in :

            Art Monk–Caught a lot of hitch passes. Hardly a game-changing, impactual receiver. The forerunner to Keyshawn Johnson and every other wideout who is able to manipulate (something you appreciate) the liberal passing era and the rules that handcuff pass defenders. Stat-padder.

            Bob Hayes–An experiment that worked out? Yes. Hall of Fame performer? No.

            Roger Werli–A starting corner on an annually weak defense. SMH. Even worse, voted to the All-Decade–SEVENTIES!–Team over Mel Blount. Ridiculous.

            Bob Griese–Infamous Game Managing QB.

            The HOF writers–the so-called “experts”–that you worship get it wrong sometimes as to who they put in (see above), who they make wait (Stabler, Swann, Stallworth, Kramer), and who they have failed to put in altogether (L.C. Greenwood, Johnny Robinson, Mike Curtis, Dwight Clark, Jack Tatum). But the exclusions of Howley, Harris, and Pearson are the right move.

            So I reiterate, still can’t get by the fact that five (Lombardi’s Packers’ world titles) is greater than two (Landry’s Cowboys’ world titles), huh, Rasputin?

            On other fronts, have you found the formula to make two (Landry’s Cowboys’ world titles) greater than four (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers; Montana/Walsh 49ers’ world titles)?

            How about explaining to us in your own infinite Landry Cowboys Wisdom (translation: Rasputin knows just enough to know nothing) how a team (Landry’s Cowboys) that loses 13 straight games to bonafide dynasties is better than those juggernauts (Lombardi’s Pack; Super Bowl ’70s Steelers; Montana/Walsh 49ers)?

            No injustice has been done to the Landry Cowboys. They have been treated fairly and all of the truly–TRULY–great Cowboys from that era are well-represented in the Hall of Fame.

            Interesting factoids on the All-Decade (’70s) team. You know, Rasputin, the one that Swann routed Drew Pearson on? :

            QB Votes: Bradshaw–13; Stabler–3; Staubach–3

            WR Votes: We know about Swann’s route of Pearson but check THIS out–Paul Warfield –5. Good to see the Voters covered there naked rear ends and put Warfield in the Hall over Pearson. Of course, he was shackled playing with a mediocre QB in South Beach.

            OT Votes: Art Shell–13; Rayfield Wright–12

            OG Votes: Joe DeLamielleure–12. No Cowboys to be found. BTW, Chuck Howley got NO Votes. Who did you say was the better player? LOL.

            DE Votes: L.C. Greenwood–10; Harvey Martin–5
            DT Votes: Joe Greene–18; Bob Lilly–16

            OLB Votes: Robert Brazile–5; Chuck Howley–ZERO. All of your “Half-Decade”, “‘Tweener” nonsense doesn’t hold water, Rasputin. Brazile came into the league in 1975 and STILL made an All-decade team, unlike Howley. Howley played THROUGHOUT the 1960s and couldn’t even make THAT team (Dave Robinson did–LOL)

            S Votes: Ken Houston–16; Cliff Harris–15. Houston was the best SS in the league until Ken Easley came along. Love the political maneuvering and ill-advised voting on the FS position. First off, Larry Wilson (7 undeserved votes) played only three years (’70-’72) of the decade and made the Pro Bowl ONE time–the first year, 1970. That must have been one hell of a season to represent an ENTIRE decade. The best FSs of the ’70s were Jack Tatum, Jake Scott and Mike Wagner. Each had more than ONE great season, more Super Bowl championships, and were more productive than Wilson in the ’70s. All three were more productive and smarter players than Harris. I suppose Tatum’s paralyzing hit (legal for that era) on Darryl Stingley, Scott’s alleged “point shaving (really?),” and the misconception that the Steelers’ front seven carried the Steelers’ secondary (poor Wagner) compelled the voters to manipulate–there’s that Rasputin characteristic again–Harris into that spot by default. Oh, well..

            Notice no Cowboy on the All-70s team was a bonafide leading vote-getter at his position? Given that this is the ’70s, notice that any Steeler that is a position representative has more votes than a Cowboy representative? In some cases the Cowboys have no representatives at all.

            Coup de grace? Coaches Votes: Shula–11; Noll–9. Sorry, Landry

        • Rasputin
          March 28, 2018
          Reply

          But I’ll add that I do appreciate you admitting on the other page that Howley was better than about half the names I listed above on this page. He’s actually better than all of them, but those guys represent most of the senior HoF inductions over the past couple of decades. So either you don’t think half or more of those people belong in Canton, or you’re implicitly conceding Chuck Howley does.

        • Rasputin
          March 28, 2018
          Reply

          You posted on the wrong page and even the wrong place here, doofus. And no, unlike you I’ve been straightforward and honest. Here are the best parts of your response on the other page about the names I listed above that Howley was better than:

          ““Dick LeBeau (Perhaps–Neither were Hall of Famers, though)…Dick Stanfel (Maybe); Mick Tingelhoff (Better but neither was a Hall of Famer); Claude Humphrey (See Dick LeBeau)….Jack Butler (See Dick LeBeau); Les Richter (See Dick LeBeau)…Floyd Little (OK)….Bob St. Clair (Probably)… Emmitt Thomas (Maybe… Charlie Sanders (Toss-up)… Roger Wehrli (toss-up)… Ozzie Newsome (Toss-up;)…”

          I basically listed the Senior HoF inductees of the past couple of decades or so and of those 27 names you conceded that Howley was either better than or a “toss up” with 12 of them (since we’ve established you suck at math that’s 44%, or “about half”), only (wrongly) arguing against 15.

          You’ve put Howley firmly mid-pack in the pool of seniors who have been enshrined in Canton in recent decades, which means if you don’t think he belongs then you think almost half the guys being inducted don’t belong either. And yet…..

          “The best FSs of the ’70s were Jack Tatum”

          LOL! I’ve never seen anyone stupid enough to argue for Tatum being All Decade or in the HoF except for this obnoxious Raiders fan who used to post here named Joseph Wright. A while back he fled the site after being humiliated and exposed as a rabid racial bigot. If he ever returns it might be under a different screenname, especially since his cherished team has abandoned his imploding city for Las Vegas.

          Apart from the Raiders having one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL during his career (the team’s biggest weakness), Tatum only made 3 Pro Bowls and 0 first team All Pros. Nope. Cliff Harris (6 Pro Bowls, 3 first team All Pros, consistently among the NFL’s best pass defenses, 4 SBs as a starter) was the right choice.

          About the only thing you said that’s true is that sometimes All Decade voters do make a mistake. Howley’s career straddled the decades but he played enough in the 60s that he should have been a slam dunk All Decade choice.

          With 5 Pro Bowls and 4 first team All Pro selections already, Howley was more qualified than Dave Robinson (3 Pro Bowls, 1 first team All Pro), let alone the Rams’ Larry Morris. Morris had zero Pro Bowls or other accolades and was even more unqualified than Jack Tatum would be a decade later.

          At least respected football historian John Turney has helped correct that oversight by naming Howley first team All Decade on the 1965-75 team.

          In all the rest of the debunked garbage you posted you never did answer my question about all those OTHER teams having more HoFers than the Landry Cowboys.

          Why should teams like the Bears, Colts, Oilers, Browns, Rams, Dolphins, Giants, Vikings, Redskins, etc. have more HoFers from the Landry era than the Cowboys do?

          And while even Landry era Dallas was more successful than the Raiders, Steelers, 49ers, and Packers across most metrics, even by your own “only SBs matter” logic why should all those teams have more HoFers from the 20th Century Super Bowl era than Dallas when the Cowboys won more Super Bowls than all of them except the 49ers, whom they’re even with, and were more successful than the 49ers across all other metrics?

          After all, the Cowboys’ 5 is more than the Steelers’ 4, the Raiders’ 3, and the Packers’ 2. Math again.

          Since you can’t make up your mind about which page you want to continue this discussion on, I’ll repost the ACTUAL coup de grace I delivered to you on the other page lower on this one too.

          That post will end the substantive portion of this debate. All that will be left is the mopping up.

          • Rasputin
            March 28, 2018

            Meant the Packers’ 3. Don’t want to shortchange Favre once new rules prematurely ended the Cowboys dynasty (as it would have any of the earlier ones) and made room for him. Still less than the Cowboys’ 5 that century though.

          • Scott Remington
            March 29, 2018

            Five (Lombardi’s Packers world titles) is greater than two (Landry Cowboys’ meager world title total–achieved WITHOUT a repeat) and Four (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers; Monatana/Walsh 49ers world titles) is greater than two (Landry Cowboys’ meager world title total–achieved WITHOUT a repeat). Even Three (Raiders titles–all achieved within Landry Cowboys’ era) is greater than two (Landry Cowboys’ meager world title total).

            Landry Cowboys: Dynasty my ass.

          • Rasputin
            March 29, 2018

            5 20th Century Cowboys true world championships (including 3 in 4 years), with all 5 SB wins by double digits (dominance), are greater than the Steelers’ 4, the Raiders’ 3, and the Packers’ 3.

            Even the Landry era’s 16(!) double digit winning seasons are greater than the Packer’s 6, the 49ers’ 8, the Steelers’ 8, and the Raiders’ 13 during that span. The Landry Cowboys’ 18 playoff seasons are greater than the Packers’ 8, the 49ers’ 10, the Steelers’ 11, and the Raiders’ 15.

            Almost 3 times as many elite, double digit seasons as the Packers and twice as many as the 49ers and the Steelers during the Landry era. The Cowboys had 8-10 more YEARS of those under Landry. That represents the length of entire CAREERS, which is why it matters in a discussion about the number of potential HoFers.

  8. Rasputin
    March 28, 2018
    Reply

    To drive the point home with facts….

    Landry Era 1960-1988

    Primary HoF Players (excluding rookie season)
    Packers – 14 (2 with no SB ring)
    Redskins – 10 (6 with no SB ring)
    Bears – 10 (5 with no SB ring)
    Colts – 9 (5 with no SB ring)
    Oilers – 9 (8 with no SB ring)
    Browns – 9 (8 with no SB ring)
    Rams – 9 (9 with no SB ring)
    Dolphins – 8 (2 with no SB ring)
    Giants – 8 (6 with no SB ring)
    Vikings – 8 (7 with no SB ring)
    Chiefs – 7 (0 with no SB ring)
    COWBOYS – 7 (0 with no SB ring)
    Lions – 6 (6 with no SB ring)
    Bills – 6 (6 with no SB ring)
    Chargers – 5 (4 with no SB ring)
    Eagles – 5 (4 with no SB ring)
    Cardinals – 4 (4 with no SB ring)

    Regular Season Wins
    COWBOYS –250
    Browns – 238
    Rams – 236
    Redskins – 224
    Vikings – 218
    Bears – 213
    Colts – 211
    Chargers – 210
    Packers – 208
    Dolphins – 205
    Chiefs – 205
    Cardinals – 193
    Giants – 188
    Lions – 186
    Oilers – 183
    Eagles – 178
    Bills – 176

    Playoff Wins
    COWBOYS – 20
    Dolphins – 14
    Redskins – 13
    Vikings – 12
    Packers – 10
    Oilers – 8
    Rams – 8
    Giants – 6
    Bears – 6
    Colts – 6
    Chiefs – 5
    Browns – 5
    Chargers – 4
    Eagles – 4
    Bills – 4
    Lions – 0
    Cardinals – 0

    Super Bowl Wins
    COWBOYS – 2
    Packers – 2
    Dolphins – 2
    Redskins – 2
    Giants – 1
    Bears – 1
    Chiefs -1
    Colts – 1
    Oilers – 0
    Browns – 0
    Rams -0
    Vikings – 0
    Lions – 0
    Bills – 0
    Chargers – 0
    Eagles -0
    Cardinals – 0

    Conference Championships
    COWBOYS – 5
    Dolphins – 5
    Redskins – 4
    Vikings – 4
    Packers – 2 (3 pre-1966 NFL titles)
    Chiefs – 2 (1 pre-1966 AFL title)
    Colts – 2
    Giants – 1
    Bears – 1 (1 pre-1966 NFL title)
    Eagles – 1 (1 pre-1966 NFL title)
    Rams – 1
    Oilers – 0 (2 pre-1966 AFL titles)
    Browns – 0 (1 pre-1966 NFL title)
    Lions – 0
    Bills – 0 (2 pre-1966 AFL titles)
    Chargers – 0 (1 pre-1966 AFL title)
    Cardinals – 0

    Conference Championship Game Appearances
    COWBOYS – 12
    Dolphins – 6
    Rams – 6
    Vikings – 6
    Redskins – 5
    Browns – 5
    Bears – 3
    Colts – 3
    Oilers – 3
    Packers – 2
    Chiefs – 2
    Bills – 2
    Chargers – 2
    Giants – 1
    Eagles – 1
    Lions – 0
    Cardinals – 0

    Division Championships
    COWBOYS – 13
    Vikings – 11
    Dolphins – 10
    Rams – 10
    Browns – 10
    Colts – 9
    Packers – 8
    Chargers – 8
    Bears – 6
    Bills – 6
    Redskins – 5
    Giants – 4
    Chiefs – 4
    Oilers – 4
    Eagles – 3
    Cardinals – 2
    Lions – 1

    Winning Seasons (more wins than losses, excluding ties)
    COWBOYS – 20
    Browns – 20
    Rams – 19
    Dolphins – 15
    Redskins – 15
    Vikings – 15
    Colts – 15
    Chargers – 15
    Chiefs – 13
    Bears – 12
    Giants – 11
    Oilers – 11
    Bills – 11
    Cardinals – 11
    Packers – 11
    Lions – 10
    Eagles – 8

    Double Digit Winning Seasons
    COWBOYS – 16
    Rams – 14
    Dolphins – 13
    Redskins – 10
    Browns – 10
    Colts – 9
    Vikings – 8
    Oilers – 8
    Bears – 7
    Giants – 6
    Packers – 6
    Chiefs – 6
    Eagles – 6
    Chargers – 6
    Bills – 5
    Cardinals – 3
    Lions – 2

    Playoff Seasons
    COWBOYS -18
    Rams – 15
    Vikings – 14
    Browns – 13
    Dolphins – 12
    Redskins – 10
    Oilers – 10
    Colts – 9
    Chargers – 9
    Packers – 8
    Bears – 8
    Bills – 8
    Giants – 7
    Chiefs – 6
    Eagles – 6
    Lions – 3
    Cardinals – 3

    The Cowboys were more successful than any of those teams in the Landry era, vastly more successful than most of them, and yet in HoFers are down around the lowly Lions, Eagles, etc. and only 3 above the freaking Cardinals. The Cardinals!

    I’ll list the 3 teams with more SB wins than Dallas in the Landry era separately. Lest one assumes they have more HoFers than Dallas simply because they won more Super Bowls, I’ll show that many of their HoFers came from outside their SB dynasties. In fact instead of just the Landry era I’ll show that these other teams have more HoFers than Dallas from the Cowboys’ founding through the end of the 90s (the team’s first 40 years of existence) despite NONE of them winning more Super Bowls than the Cowboys in that span. I’ll also add the Packers here for fun even though they only equaled the Cowboys in SB wins in the Landry era.

    1960-1999

    Primary HoF Players
    Packers – 16 (2 with no SB ring)
    Steelers – 15 (5 with no SB ring)
    49ers – 14 (8 with no SB ring)
    Raiders – 14 (3 with no SB ring)
    COWBOYS – 13 (0 with no SB ring)

    Super Bowl Wins
    COWBOYS – 5
    49ers – 5
    Steelers – 4
    Raiders – 3
    Packers – 3

    Conference Championships
    COWBOYS – 8
    49ers – 5
    Steelers – 5
    Raiders – 4
    Packers – 4 (3 pre-1966 NFL titles)

    Conference Championship Game Appearances
    COWBOYS – 16
    49ers – 12
    Raiders – 12
    Steelers – 10
    Packers – 5

    Regular Season Wins
    COWBOYS – 352
    Raiders – 348
    49ers – 334
    Steelers – 315
    Packers – 311

    Playoff Wins
    COWBOYS – 32
    49ers – 24
    Steelers – 21
    Raiders – 21
    Packers – 19

    Division Championships
    COWBOYS – 19
    49ers – 16
    Steelers – 14
    Raiders – 13
    Packers – 11

    Winning Seasons (more wins than losses, excluding ties)
    COWBOYS – 27
    49ers – 25
    Raiders – 25
    Steelers – 23
    Packers – 20

    Double Digit Winning Seasons
    COWBOYS – 23
    49ers – 18
    Raiders – 15
    Steelers – 13
    Packers – 11

    Playoff Seasons
    COWBOYS – 26
    49ers – 19
    Steelers – 18
    Raiders – 18
    Packers -14

    Once again the Cowboys have been the most successful team, leading every category like above, but have the fewest HoFers. Especially telling is the fact that the Cowboys have almost twice as many playoff seasons and MORE than twice as many double digit winning seasons as the Packers, both metrics indicating elite status, and yet the Packers have the most HoFers from that era.

    The Cowboys are the most underrepresented team in Canton given their success on the field. Inducting 3 Landry era players….

    Chuck Howley
    Cliff Harris
    Drew Pearson

    ….who are all long overdue anyway, would rectify this. It would be bring the Landry total up to 10, still below the Packers, 49ers, Steelers, and Raiders, but even with the Redskins and slightly above the Vikings and those many other teams listed above, which would be more fitting. It would take the all time Dallas total to 16, tying the Super Bowl era Packers, which would be appropriate since the Cowboys have won more Super Bowls and dominate across metrics.

    Since the Steelers’ last 2 SBs have been too recent for those HoF players to become eligible, at this point the Cowboys should have the most HoFers from the Super Bowl era. Only the 49ers won as many in the 20th Century, and the Cowboys won more conference championship games, won more total games, and had more playoff and winning seasons.

  9. Scott Remington
    March 29, 2018
    Reply

    Stay focused, Rasputin. I thought we were talking about that “Landry Cowboys Dynasty?” All you’re doing is sneaking in the jimmy Johnson Dynasty.

    Five (Lombardi’s Packers world titles) is greater than two (Landry Cowboys’ meager world title total–achieved WITHOUT a repeat) and Four (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers; Monatana/Walsh 49ers world titles) is greater than two (Landry Cowboys’ meager world title total–achieved WITHOUT a repeat). Even Three (Raiders world titles–all achieved within Landry Cowboys’ era) is greater than two (Landry Cowboys’ meager world title total).

    That’s ALL the math and logic I need.

    • Rasputin
      March 30, 2018
      Reply

      No, what about the Landry era Bears, Oilers, Browns, Rams, Colts, Dolphins, Giants, Vikings, Redskins, and Chiefs who have more HoFers than the Cowboys but certainly not more Super Bowl wins or even as many except for the Dolphins and Redskins (whom the Cowboys dominate in other metrics)?

      Even the Lions, Bills, Chargers, and Eagles are close, within 2 HoFers, and the Cardinals are only 3 HoFers behind the Cowboys.

      Can you at least agree that there’s something wrong with that?

      “Stay focused, Rasputin. I thought we were talking about that “Landry Cowboys Dynasty?” All you’re doing is sneaking in the jimmy Johnson Dynasty.”

      Alright. I mercifully accept your concession that the Cowboys overall are underrepresented in Canton, given that they have fewer HoFers but more 20th Century Super Bowl wins than the Steelers, Raiders, and Packers, are even with the 49ers, but best the 49ers and those other teams across salient metrics like conference championships, playoff wins, playoff seasons, winning seasons, double digit winning seasons, division titles, etc., largely due to the Landry era, btw.

      “That’s ALL the math and logic I need.”

      Apparently not, LOL.

      • Scott Remington
        March 31, 2018
        Reply

        It all comes down to the world championships. The regular season success gets you into the post season. What do you do with it world championship-wise when you get there? Two world titles out of 29 seasons is not much of an average, let alone a dynasty. Get accepted into a bonafide college, learn that, and then you will graduate. Even if we giv the Landry Cowboys a world title run of two out of seven (1971-77) that doesn’t best the Lombardi Packers (1961-67; five of seven), the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers (1974-79; four of six), Montana/Walsh 49ers (1981-89; four of nine) or even the Raiders (not a dynasty 1976-83; three of eight). Landry’s Cowboys claim to a dynasty is a lost cause.

        • Anonymous
          March 31, 2018
          Reply

          Well we can disagree on that, but at least we agree that the Cowboys are underrepresented in Canton.

        • Rasputin
          March 31, 2018
          Reply

          We can disagree on that, but at least we agree that the Cowboys are underrepresented in Canton.

          • Scott Remington
            April 2, 2018

            The fact that you don’t believe its’s all about world championships is sheer lunacy. What do you mean “we,” Mr. Lover of Underachievers (two world titles in 29 years; two world titles in 20 winning seasons; two world titles in whatever many postseason appearances)? I never wrote the Landry Cowboys were “underrepresented” in the Hall of Fame. Don’t libel me. They are well-represented. It’s conceivable they are overrepresented (Bob Hayes was not a Hall of Famer; And if L.C. Greenwood is not a Hall of Famer then neither is Rayfield Wright–the man Greenwood destroyed regularly).

          • Rasputin
            April 2, 2018

            2 Super Bowl wins is more than most of those other teams I listed, Mr. Hypocrite. The discussion here has always been about HoF representation given team success. Even if one accepts your wrong and idiotic premise that the 2017 Patriots and 2017 Browns were equally successful, by your own “its’s all about world championships” logic Dallas should have more HoFers than those other teams. So thank you for showing for all to see that you’re just a mindless Cowboys hater with zero credibility.

            PS – Bob Hayes is definitely a HoFer. He averaged more TDs/game over his first two seasons than Randy Moss did. People can remember the hype accompanying Moss “tearing up the league”, so imagine the impact Hayes had in the mid-1960s when passing stats were way less inflated. He helped revolutionize the game and is the fastest serious player in NFL history. He’s a textbook example of “you can’t tell the story of the NFL without him”. Oh, and unlike Moss, Hayes won a Super Bowl.

            And Rayfield Wright and Greenwood didn’t even play “regularly”, so ditch that nonsense. Your comment would be more true of Erik Williams dominating Reggie White in the 90s, and they played a lot more often. Wright is considered by even many non Cowboys fans to be the greatest pass blocker of that era.

          • Scott Remington
            April 2, 2018

            “2 Super Bowl wins is more than most of those other teams I listed, Mr. Hypocrite. The discussion here has always been about HoF representation given team success. Even if one accepts your wrong and idiotic premise that the 2017 Patriots and 2017 Browns were equally successful…”

            Still trying to twist and manipulate words and ideas to exonerate yourself from the stupid proclamation that the Landry Cowboys were a “dynasty,” huh, Mr. Never-Was-Accepted-into-Therefore-Never-Graduated-from-College? The discussion has always been about how the Landry Cowboys were never a dynasty. It facts won’t go away. “The Landry Dynasty” is a stupid thing to say. Simply because they weren’t. Like Lombardi’s Packers, the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers, or the Montana/Walsh 49ers. None of whom ever lost to the Landry Cowboys (Landry’s Cowboys were 0-13 for those like Rasputin who forgot).

            As for more Rasputin ignorance: “He’s (Bob Hayes) a textbook example of ‘you can’t tell the story of the NFL without him’. Oh, and unlike Moss, Hayes won a Super Bowl.”

            Is it that we can’t tell the NFL story because he helped Lombardi’s Packers win the Ice Bowl by keeping his hands inside the crouch of his pants whenever the Cowboys ran the ball, thus tipping off the plays to Dave Robinson, Willie Wood, and Herb Adderley and other Hall of Fame Packer defenders?

            Perhaps Moss didn’t win a Super Bowl his rookie year because his defense allowed the Falcons’ journeyman QB that year to drive his team 73 yards with under two minutes to go as easily as a man walking his dog to tie the game and force overtime? Perhaps Hayes has that ring thanks to the fortunate fact that Pete Rozelle ordered the Patriots to return Duane Thomas to the Cowboys after the Cowboys foolishly traded him (They STILL made the same, boneheaded move after he carried the offense–Hayes was a virtual nonfactor–with 95 yards rushing; Landry’s Cowboys never win another Super Bowl until Tony Dorsett is in the starting lineup years later; Did the ’70s Steelers ever do that to Franco Harris? Did the ’80s ‘Niners ever do that to Roger Craig?)

            Of course this idiot couldn’t stop: “And Rayfield Wright and Greenwood didn’t even play “regularly”, so ditch that nonsense.”

            During the Steelers Super Bowl run, they played each other four times in a five-year span (1975-79) including three seasons in a row.
            In the two Super Bowls, Greenwood went through Wright for five sacks (four in Super Bowl X alone) and in their last matchup in ’79, Greenwood finished Staubach for the game with a sack over Rayfield Wright.

            Randy Moss “tore up the league” his rookie year, highlighted by his Thanksgiving performance when he “tore up” the Dallas Cowboys. Faceplant, Rasputin.

            Super Bo

          • Rasputin
            April 3, 2018

            “It facts won’t go away.”

            Sure, Mr. “College Graduate”. Your posting indicates you never finished junior high, let alone ever attended college. I’ll keep calling the Landry Cowboys a “dynasty” because it makes you cry and throw a tantrum if nothing else, but no, as anyone reading my posts here can see, the discussion started and has always been about HoFers. Certainly my first post here was (I didn’t even mention the word “dynasty”, halfwit), and the entire article on the other page was about tying HoFer count to team success.

            So you can’t read well, Scott. You can’t do math. You can’t think. You’re ignorant. You suck at logic. You’re a hypocrite. You’re a moron. You’re a coward who keeps trying to dodge substantive debate.

            But you’ve conceded key points, maybe without being smart enough to realize it at the time, certainly without being man enough to cop to it afterwards, and have contradicted yourself in ways fatal to your position.

            You’ve conceded that Chuck Howley is at least as good as about half of the senior HoF inductees over the past couple of decades.

            You’ve made arguments for players who didn’t win the Super Bowl to be in the HoF, from Dave Wilcox to Kenny Easley, and yet only want to judge Bob Hayes on a couple of games against teams with great defenses, one in record inclement weather where neither offense looked good.

            Yet you ignore Chuck Howley’s awesome big (and regular season) game performances, like when he recovered a fumble and returned an interception from HoF QB Bob Griese 41 yards to seal the win in SB VI. Those performances don’t matter in your book if they’re from Cowboys. You give Cliff Harris no credit for winning 2 Super Bowls and 4 conference championships as a starter, even after I educated your with pass defense rankings before and after his retirement clearly showing his enormous personal contribution to Doomsday’s success.

            You’ve argued against the Landry Cowboys having any more HoFers than they already do because they supposedly weren’t the “dynasty” that the 60s Packers, 70s Steelers, or 80s 49ers were, despite the fact that we’re talking about 29 years here instead of just 6 to 9, and a lot more winning and success for Dallas than those teams across most metrics.

            But then you’re fine with teams like the Bears, Vikings, Rams, etc. having more HoFers from the Landry era than the Cowboys despite those teams winning one or zero Super Bowls, and also having way less success across other metrics.

            And you flee any portion of the discussion about all time Totals, where the facts show the Cowboys have fewer HoFers than teams with fewer Super Bowls do. You cry something like “we aren’t discussing Jimmy Johnson’s Cowboys!” (even when comparing them specifically to Marv Levy’s Bills?) and run away leaving a thin trail of urine behind.

            Your position collapses. You’ve debunked yourself, Scott. You’re the faceplanter.

            On individual merit, in addition to revolutionizing the league with his speed, in his first two years Hayes was the catalyst that took the Cowboys to their first non-losing and winning seasons in 65 and 66. He made their offense explosive and the Cowboys were suddenly around the NFL’s elite (where they would stay through the mid-80s). In the 1971 Super Bowl season you mentioned Hayes led Dallas in receiving yards (one of 5 years he did that) and receiving TDs with 8 (tied for 2nd with 3 were RB Calvin Hill and a backup WR). Lance Alworth only had about half as many yards and 2 TDs. Hayes was a huge reason they were a Super Bowl team that year. So yeah, he definitely earned that ring.

            As for Wright and Greenwood, 4 games isn’t playing “regularly”, moron. Erik Williams played Reggie White at least 11 times, with Williams usually getting the best of it. White is widely considered to be the greatest DE of all time. Erik Williams isn’t even in the HoF. Your lame argument is too narrow and falls flat, like most of the rest of the crap you’ve spewed.

            If you just didn’t want the Cowboys to be recognized as being on par with the 60s Packers, merely inducting 3 more to bring the Landry era total to 10 (which is all I’ve called for here) shouldn’t bother you. That would leave them short of what teams like the Packers, Steelers, and 49ers have from the Landry era but rightly elevate them higher than the mix they’re in with teams like the Chiefs, Vikings, Lions(!), and others, and would tie them with the Landry era Bears.

            That you even oppose that exposes you as a mindless hater of the Cowboys, useful only as a prop and for unintentional amusement.

            “Super Bo”

            You sort of trailed off there at the end.

  10. Scott Remington
    May 14, 2018
    Reply

    “Combined head-to-head Super Bowl score…” Are you serious, Rasputin? Does that form of desperation “ease” the pain of those first two Super Bowl ass-whippings that the Steelers put on Dallas? LMAO!!! LOL!!! LMAO!!! Rasputin is losing it because of those Super Bowl X, XIII, Swann, Stallworth, Steel Curtain, Bradshaw, and Lambert (“…that’ll cool your ass off!”) nightmares. Sweet dreams, noncollege graduate/attendee. LMAO!!!

    Verne Lundquist seems to have gotten over HIS Steeler agony…

    • Rasputin
      May 15, 2018
      Reply

      Hey, it shows the Cowboys have scored more against the Steelers head to head in Super Bowls than vice versa. You’re the hypocritical moron who keeps wanting to lump cherry-picked games from different years together to try (and fail) to prove points. I also added the fact about Dallas having the advantage in games won in the overall series. You must have forgotten to comment about that, LMFAO.

      Only desperate, pathetic losers try to count 4 point wins as “ass whippings”. The only ass whippings here are the Cowboys beating the Steelers by DOUBLE DIGITS every game they played in the 1990s. Every single game. How does that even happen?

      BOOM!!!

      Scott Remington’s nightmares about Darren Woodson and Scott Case continue to plague his life. Lately Zeke and Dak have been ruining his sleep as well. Little wonder he’s obsessed enough to spend countless posts crying about a team he doesn’t even root for: America’s Team. 🙂

  11. Rasputin
    May 22, 2018
    Reply

    Poor Scott can’t name a single other glory period for the Steelers in the entire 20th Century. We always hear that cliche about them having a “blue collar mentality”. Maybe they have a unionized mentality because they joined the league in 1933 and didn’t show up to work until that short stint in the 1970s. Even then they called in sick when the Raiders showed up. LMFAO!

    Scott has dodged almost every question, including what it’s like to root for a team that’s spent half its history losing. All the poor guy can do is repeat already debunked garbage like a broken, increasingly out of date record. His own lies, ignorance, and cowardice have been exposed here and on the other page for all to see. His arguments against Cowboys HoF candidates have been totally shredded.

    He clings to a single out of context quote from Mike Ditka, who was just an assistant coach then, while ignoring the multi-paragraph quote I spoonfed him completely refuting his lies about Cliff Harris in SB X, from a Pittsburgh paper no less. He certainly has no interest in all the Cowboys PLAYERS commenting since SB 13 that thought they should have won and would have won if not for the specific fluky events undeniably captured on tape for all to see. Quoting them would have no impact on Scott because the poor guy isn’t rational and just disregards information contradicting him or proving him wrong. At most he just drops a point and stops talking about it, but he never admits he was wrong. About anything. Pathetic.

    “Name them? (the alleged Cowboys fans Scott’s making claims about). I have about as much chance of doing that as I do naming everyone who has ever gone to Texas Stadium.”

    No, it would be much easier to name one or two than millions of people, moron. I love how you keep discrediting yourself by posting faceplants like that.

    “I’m definitely no going to put the ex-girlfriend Cowboy fan out there”

    You mean the one who lives in Canada that no one has ever seen but you’ll promise we’ll get to meet one day? LOL!

    “And I would rather win two of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose two of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls).”

    I would rather have the NFL’s all time best winning percentage (the Steelers aren’t even in the top 10!), success in every decade, even the most mediocre (by our franchise’s lofty standards), a thumping double digit victory in the only head to head Super Bowl played between the Cowboys and the Steelers more recently than 40 years ago, and a current winning streak and undefeated record against Pittsburgh so far this decade. I would also rather be a fan of a team that’s the envy of the sporting world (why it’s the #1 most valuable sports franchise on the planet), has the broadest fan base, has contributed the most innovations, and has represented itself with the most class, including during the ongoing anti-American protest debacle that’s threatening to send the NFL into permanent decline. Jerry Jones was the only owner with the moral courage to go against the PC media flow and stand up for Americans, and the Cowboys were about the only team where no one ever knelt during the anthem. What else would you expect from America’s Team? 🙂

    By contrast Pittsburgh had that disgraceful fiasco of cowardly indecision where they tried to dodge the issue by hiding their players inside during the anthem, forcing military vet Villanueva to stand respectfully for the anthem near the tunnel entrance alone, with a scattering of a few players behind him unsure of how far they should walk out. QB Ben Roethlisberger was so torn and upset by what had happened that he later said he couldn’t sleep that night.

    I’m proud of the Dallas Cowboys, America’s Team.

    All Time Winning Percentage
    Dallas Cowboys – .573 (1st in NFL)
    Pittsburgh Steelers – .529 (11th in NFL)

    Cowboys All Time Record Against Steelers
    17-15

    Longest Winning Streak in Series
    Cowboys – 7 games (late 60s-mid 70s, the heart of the Landry era)

    Largest Blowout
    Cowboys beat Steelers 52-21 in 1965

    Most Consecutive Double Digit Victories
    Cowboys – 4; Dallas beat Pittsburgh 4 times from 1991 through 1997 by a combined score of 110-43 for a per game average of 27.5-10.75 (that’s similar to the ass kicking Scott Remington has received here)

    Most Decisive Head to Head Super Bowl
    SB 30 – Cowboys win 27-17

    Current Winning Streak
    Cowboys have won 2 games in a row (2012, 2016) and counting.

    • Rasputin
      May 22, 2018
      Reply

      Meant it was 1966 when the Cowboys beat the Steelers 52-21. In 1965 Dallas only won 24-17, lol.

      • Scott Remington
        May 23, 2018
        Reply

        It is pretty obvious that Swann, Stallworth, Lambert are all in your devastating nightmares, Rasputin. The decade of dominance of the ’70s more than made up for all the losing. Chuck Howley and anyone in the league was very fortunate to take on the Steelers BEFORE they got rolling after they hired Chuck Noll as head coach to build a world title-caliber team.

        Only an idiot (typical of an overzealous frothing-at-the-mouth Landry Cowboys fan) would write with sincerity (stupidity is more like it) “Noll wasn’t a football genius.” Still butt-hurt and bitter from your Steeler inflicted agony, Rasputin? However, let’s go with the notion that is true. What does that say about Landry and the rest of the Cowboys crew that lost to Noll’s Steelers every single time they played them from 1975-82? Five straight defeats. The last of which didn’t even include Mean Joe Greene, L.C. Greenwood, Dwight White, or Mike Wagner.

        More Rasputin ignorance brought on by the Swann-Stallworth-Lambert nightmares continued:

        “Teams just get lucky with new talent sometimes that lands together at the right time (Like Jimmy Johnson’s Cowboys?). Even during that one short glory period the Oakland Raiders absolutely owned the Steelers. Those were some humiliating beatdowns they put on your team in the playoffs in particular.” Get your facts straight, ignoramus. In the ’70s the Raiders (who at least proved to be a more worthy Steeler opponent than Landry’s Cowboys) had a playoff record of 2-3 vs the Steelers. That included a 1-2 record in AFC title matchups. A losing record is “owning” someone? SMH.

        I find your Raiders bandwagoning more than a little hypocritical. Seems on other posts, whenever it was brought up that the Raiders beat the Steelers multiple times in the ’70s (while the Cowboys didn’t–despite multiple opportunities), you were bringing up all kinds of excuses (very Cowboy-like; keep the alibi machine in Dallas; don’t use it with the Steelers; we’re adults when it comes to losses, not Landry Cowboy whiners) to discredit the Raiders wins over Pittsburgh (“Harris and Bleier were injured,” “The Steelers were only 9-5 that year,” “The Steelers were struggling early that year,” blah. blah, blah). So which was it, Rasputin? Was Ken Stabler a much better QB matchup against the Steelers than Staubach? Were Jack Tatum and George Atkinson much better equipped to deal with Swann and Stallworth than Cliff Harris and Charlie Waters? Or were the Steelers undermanned?

        The Steelers and its fanbase has always hated yet respected the Raiders. We endorsed Stabler for the Hall of Fame. Mel Blount has always praised Cliff Branch. And our fanbase has always recognized that Tatum would have been an excellent Steeler. We respect hard-nosed, hard-hitting football here. However, Atkinson was and still is despised as a dirty player. After the games, with the exception of the Immaculate Reception and Atkinson’s infamous cheap shot in ’76, the losing team just said, “They beat us,” and that was that.

        The problem with the Landry Cowboys was that they wanted respect but didn’t want to give it. They always had built-in excuses of an off-the-wall-cop-out nature that showed their weakness whenever anyone beat them. Just say you lost Super Bowl X (“Fluky?” How?), Super Bowl XIII (also not “fluky”), the ’77 regular-season rematch, and the decade-closing ’79 crushing to the better team (the Steelers) and move on. No one likes a whining, alibi spewer.

        Then Rasputin started really losing it…(What else is new?)

        “On the other page you called the Cowboys “bullies”, I guess your clumsy way of trying to claim that they only beat up on weak teams rather than strong teams.” There was nothing clumsy, just stating the FACTS. Landry’s Cowboys record vs. Super Bowl ’70s Steelers and ’70s Raiders: 0-5. It wasn’t the Steelers who were the bullies. They beat all comers. The Cowboys…Not so much. And you said the Steelers got punched in the mouth? Not by the Landry Cowboys (0-4) they didn’t. LOL!!!

        In addition, The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXYPdwXIp1U represents validation for all my claims: Steelers agony put on the Cowboys and their fans–anguish that lasts to THIS DAY, the Steelers beating up the Cowboys whenever they played during the Steelers reign from 1974-79, the whining over Lambert trashing Cliff Harris, and Swann was not “overrated” and was dominant in overwhelming Cowboys Harris-led secondary in Super Bowl X (if not, Rasputin, why did the Cowboys lose SB X. Why was that “fluky?”), and Mike Ditka was NOT taken “out of context.”

        Six (world titles-Steelers) is greater than five (world titles–Cowboys). And I would rather win two of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose two of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). We KNOW you’ll be crawling back for more on this STEELER post, you sad, tormented Cowboy whiner. Seek counsel with Verne Lundquist. HE got over HIS Steeler agony. LOL!!!

        Sidenote: The Cowboy fan ex-girlfriend who hates the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers (“The Cowboys didn’t play that way!” “My poor Cowboys,”) doesn’t live in Canada. She’s where she belongs. In Galveston, TX. Look forward to seeing you crawl back to this Steelers post. You’ll NEVER see me on a Cowboys post.

  12. Rasputin
    May 23, 2018
    Reply

    “The decade of dominance of the ’70s more than made up for all the losing.”

    Really, LOL? It made up for the preceding 40 YEARS of futility? From 1933 until 1972 Pittsburgh made the playoffs exactly once. Once! In 1947. And they got their asses handed them to them 21-0 by the Eagles (of all teams, LMFAO!). The Steelers were Remingtoned. : ) The Eagles didn’t even go on to win the title. What a miserable franchise. Even the 70s wasn’t a decade of dominance. You didn’t win the most games or conference championships that decade. Dallas did. It was 4 years of dominance, two of which were capped by fluky 4 point squeakers.

    Pittsburgh declined again in the 80s, only missing having its FIFTH losing decade by a couple of games.

    The 90s were the Steelers’ second best decade of the entire 20th Century….and the Cowboys still crushed them by double digits EVERY GAME. Think about that.

    “Chuck Howley and anyone in the league was very fortunate to take on the Steelers BEFORE they got rolling after they hired Chuck Noll as head coach to build a world title-caliber team.”

    Lambert, Swann, and Stallworth (about the only relevant Steelers missing in the 1972 loss to Dallas) were lucky to play the Cowboys after Chuck Howley, Bob Lilly, and Bob Hayes had retired, and after Mel Renfro was past his prime.

    “Only an idiot (typical of an overzealous frothing-at-the-mouth Landry Cowboys fan) would write with sincerity (stupidity is more like it) “Noll wasn’t a football genius.”

    Only a drooling moron would claim he was a football genius without bothering to support such a claim with a single example of innovation or other evidence of genius.

    “However, let’s go with the notion that is true. What does that say about Landry and the rest of the Cowboys crew that lost to Noll’s Steelers every single time they played them from 1975-82? Five straight defeats.”

    Following 7 straight Cowboys wins over the Steelers, LOL? Man, you’re an idiotic hypocrite.

    “The last of which didn’t even include Mean Joe Greene…”

    The Cowboys didn’t even have Roger Staubach when they beat Pittsburgh in 1972. Dallas won with Craig Morton, the guy you ignorantly dismissed before.

    ““Teams just get lucky with new talent sometimes that lands together at the right time (Like Jimmy Johnson’s Cowboys?).”

    Except the 90s Cowboys were built in a much shorter time frame through unusual, creative means that showcased clever football vision. They actually developed draft trade value cards, for example, that were cutting edge and later copied by the rest of the league. Nothing routine or lucky about that.

    The Cowboys were also more dominant than the Steelers. Their dynasty ended prematurely due to salary cap/ FA rule changes that also would have dismantled the Steelers or any other previous dynasty, but Dallas became the first team to win 3 Super Bowls in 4 years. And in their 11 playoff games from 1992 through 1995, their 10 victories were all by double digits. Every single one. No controversial 4 point squeakers. Oh and they won their 2 games against the Raiders in that span by double digits too for the record. : )

    Plus Jimmy Johnson didn’t hang around anywhere near as long as Noll did. And I never called him a football genius, you moron, though he was a better coach than Noll. Landry was a football genius with countless examples on both sides of the ball to prove it.

    “In the ’70s the Raiders (who at least proved to be a more worthy Steeler opponent than Landry’s Cowboys) had a playoff record of 2-3 vs the Steelers.”

    Except the Raiders beat Pittsburgh SIX TIMES IN A ROW starting in 1976, including 2 playoff smackdowns of 24-7 and 38-10. That’s almost as long a winning streak as the Landry Cowboys had against the Steelers. Oakland also crushed Pittsburgh 33-14 in the 1973 playoffs. The Steelers wins were by much smaller margins.

    “I find your Raiders bandwagoning more than a little hypocritical. Seems on other posts, whenever it was brought up that the Raiders beat the Steelers multiple times in the ’70s…you were bringing up all kinds of excuses..to discredit the Raiders wins over Pittsburgh (“Harris and Bleier were injured,” “The Steelers were only 9-5 that year,” “The Steelers were struggling early that year,” blah. blah, blah).”

    No, I was just correcting factually false claims made by Joseph Wright and using his own “logic” to destroy his arguments the way I often use your “logic” to destroy your arguments. That’s assuming you and Joseph Wright aren’t the same person, which there’s a good chance you are. I had fun mocking him for continually running and hiding behind the Steelers’ skirt since the 70s Raiders clearly didn’t measure up to the 70s Cowboys despite him starting that argument by stupidly claiming the reverse. That, combined with Dallas beating the “Oakland” Raiders in the very last game between those two teams with “Oakland” in the name while that debate was going on, probably compelled him to flee the site in humiliation. Wouldn’t shock me if he tried to slink back with a fake name like “Scott Remington” pretending to be a Steelers fan. You’re both cowardly, obnoxious morons and you make many of the same, easily refuted arguments word for word.

    I don’t really care either way though. While you two are uneducated buffoons who don’t understand the concept of “ad hominem” or “appeal to personal authority” fallacies, I build my arguments to stand on their own regardless of who’s making them. Your arguments collapse under the weight of their own inconsistencies regardless of who you are. You keep obsessing over stuff like my real name. You’re just a blind, wounded animal backed into a corner, irrational, hostile, and swiping desperately at the air in a panic.

    And there’s no Raiders “bandwagon”. The Cowboys were way better and Tatum wasn’t half the player Cliff Harris was.

    “The Steelers and its fanbase has always hated yet respected the Raiders….The problem with the Landry Cowboys was that they wanted respect but didn’t want to give it.”

    Hogwash on all counts. The Steelers hated the Raiders so much that the teams ended up in a court battle suing each other over comments, LMFAO!

    And I’ve heard various Steelers give mad respect to the Cowboys, including Jack Ham in the interview on this very page, LOL. Did you not even listen to the material on what you keep calling a “Steeler post” (you whine like an infant over me even posting here). Not that the Cowboys really cared what other teams thought about them. What is this grade school? If anything they relished the hostility toward “America’s Team” on the road like Drew Pearson did in Philadelphia at last year’s draft because they understood where it sprang from.

    Once again the truth is the opposite of your claim.

    “Sidenote: The Cowboy fan ex-girlfriend who hates the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers (“The Cowboys didn’t play that way!” “My poor Cowboys,”) doesn’t live in Canada.”

    That was a joke, moron. A variation of an old cliche. Man, you’re culturally ignorant too.

    “You’ll NEVER see me on a Cowboys post.”

    But you’ll be obsessively posting about the Cowboys as you are here, LMFAO. And talk about protesting a little much. You even all capped “NEVER”. The Dallas Cowboys live rent free in your skull.

    Everything else in your dishonest post has already been debunked.

    “The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century.”

    The team with the union mentality took the 80s off, showed up to work drunk in the 90s, then paid the officials to punch their timecards in for them a couple of years during the 2000s while they took a vacation.

    “The Cowboys have not.”

    The century is young. : ) And the Cowboys have beaten the Steelers in their two most recent games.

    That’s a big part of why the Cowboys really are in YOUR nightmares.

    Here are some more:

    All Time Winning Percentage
    Dallas Cowboys – .573 (1st in NFL)
    Pittsburgh Steelers – .529 (11th in NFL)

    Number of Losing Decades
    Cowboys – 0
    Steelers – 4

    Cowboys All Time Record Against Steelers
    17-15

    Most Recent Head to Head Super Bowl
    SB XXX – Cowboys win 27-17

    Most Recent Games
    Cowboys 2 game winning streak

    • Rasputin
      May 23, 2018
      Reply

      PS – Your youtube link to the SB 30 pregame didn’t validate anything you said but did validate things I’ve been saying. It also means you almost certainly watched SB 30 live, LOL. That double digit beat down haunts you to this day.

  13. Scott Remington
    May 23, 2018
    Reply

    So how was Ditka’s comment (“We (Landry Cowboys) thought we were the best. They (Super Bowl 70s Steelers) KNEW they were the best.”) taken out of context, Rasputin? You can’t explain that “out of context” lie you made up, can you? And only an anguished idiot like you would say Swann wasn’t dominant over the overmatched and overwhelmed Cowboys secondary led by Cliff Harris. Harvey Martin–“Lynn Swann broke our (Landry Cowboys) back. He literally broke our back.” Swann continues to plague Rasputin, too, Harvey. LOL!!! Preston Pearson said the Steelers DID intimidate the Cowboys. Drew Pearson said that the Super Bowl XIII loss is STILL devastating. And, of course, Harris was still whining over Jack Lambert trashing him. Why don’t you check out the video again. I’m sure it brings back painful memories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXYPdwXIp1U. LMAO!!!

    “Even the 70s wasn’t a decade of dominance. You didn’t win the most games or conference championships that decade. Dallas did. It was 4 years of dominance, two of which were capped by fluky 4 point squeakers.” So you’re saying you would rather win more regular season games in a decade while another team wins more world titles that same decade? And you value conference championships more than Super Bowl championships? What does it matter if you win the most regular season games in a decade and only have two world titles to show for it while down the way someone else took home more world titles in that same span of time? And winning the conference title five times and coming away with two world titles is greater than winning four conference titles and coming away with four world titles? You’re pathetic AND suck at math.

    Landry’s Cowboys went to the Super Bowl five times and cashed in twice. in the ’70s, the Steelers went to the Super Bowl four times and cashed in EVERY time, including two over the Cowboys that you and many other Cowboys fans and Landry Cowboys players are STILL agonizing with anguish about. The Landry Cowboys cashed in 40 percent of the time while Noll’s Steelers cashed in 100 percent of the time, Super Bowl-wise. You can have the extra REGULAR season wins. I’ll take the two extra Super Bowls. And in the overall sense, you can have all the REGULAR season success. I’ll take the six Super Bowl titles and winning Super Bowl record over the inferior franchise in big games, the Dallas Cowboys.

    Still too cowardly to answer the simple questions:
    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers?
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers?

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry? How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?
    Are you also of the opinion that Lombardi and Walsh weren’t “football geniuses?”
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?

    Raiders “owned” the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers? Playoff record in that era? 3-2 in favor of Steelers. Conference Championship record? 2-1 in favor of Steelers. Are you courageous and man enough to admit an obvious, enormous faceplant, dummy? LMAO!!! Just one of your many mistakes, Mr. noncollege graduate.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    • Rasputin
      May 24, 2018
      Reply

      All Time Winning Percentage
      Dallas Cowboys – .573 (1st in NFL)
      Pittsburgh Steelers – .529 (11th in NFL)

      Cowboys All Time Record Against Steelers
      17-15

      Combined Head to Head Super Bowl Score
      Cowboys – 75
      Steelers – 73

      Most Recent Head to Head Super Bowl
      SB XXX – Cowboys win 27-17

      Most Recent Games
      Cowboys 2 game winning streak

      “And in the overall sense, you can have all the REGULAR season success. I’ll take the six Super Bowl titles and winning Super Bowl record over the inferior franchise in big games, the Dallas Cowboys.”

      Yeah I know, you only care about the regular season games that go your way that you’ve repeatedly boasted about here (a minority of them, hypocrite. LOL.). You realize your very slight (one game) edge in SB wins is only temporary don’t you, moron? If Dallas wins the next one to tie Pittsburgh overall then all those other wins at the playoff and regular season level kick in as tie breakers and destroy everything you’ve indicated you cling to in a pitiful bid to give your pathetic life meaning, even before the Cowboys win another one to take an outright lead in SB wins. I mean seriously, did you say all the crap you’re saying about the Steelers now about the Cowboys from 1995-2008 when it would have been more true if anything? Or were you just a miserable, dimwitted hypocrite? I know which I’d put my money on.

      Sustained success in EVERY DECADE OF EXISTENCE is a firm foundation for a franchise that transcends the yearly fluctuations in SB count. The Cowboys are about a lot more than just 4 years in the 70s and 2 in the 2000s.

      That’s why THEY are America’s Team and the Steelers never will be. 🙂

      “So how was Ditka’s comment (“We (Landry Cowboys) thought we were the best. They (Super Bowl 70s Steelers) KNEW they were the best.”) taken out of context, Rasputin? You can’t explain that “out of context” lie you made up, can you?”

      For one thing Ditka was talking about “those two games” (his words), not a several year period let alone the entire Landry era, part of his quote you left out, coward. So you lied about me lying like you’ve been caught lying about so much else.

      I’ll add that even then Ditka was just an assistant coach during those games and that’s a typical coach’s answer. The actual Cowboys who played knew they were the underdog wildcard team in 75 but think they had the better team in 78 and still think they should have won, the opposite of the characterization in your ignorant fantasy. And the Steelers in that video make it clear they don’t believe they “kicked ass” any more than Ham in this page’s interview who admitted to nervousness and fatigue by the end. In the video Chuck Noll even chuckled with relief about Jackie Smith’s dropped pass and jokingly attributed it to “divine intervention” (or perhaps satanic), nothing to do with the prowess of the Steel Curtain.

      Rocky Bleier said those two games were the most exciting Super Bowls there had been. Bradshaw conceded in SB X that their offense couldn’t do much. There’s also a clear shot of that first Swann catch on CB Mark Washington that you dishonestly mocked Harris for supposedly delivering a weak tackle on. Swann was already out of bounds before Harris got there from the other side of the field. Harris hit him just hard enough to make sure he was out without drawing a penalty. Harris said in the video that they’re friends now but even today he’d like to get a chance at Swann over the middle. He’d like to get him “over the middle and nail him”. That supports the Pittsburgh paper I quoted (extensively, unlike your pointless Ditka one liner you didn’t even fully quote) refuting your lie about Harris getting “undressed” in coverage by pointing out that Harris didn’t have that chance. Swann avoided Harris on all 4 of his catches (that’s right, he had a grand total of 4 catches).

      Lambert admitted that in the first half PITTSBURGH was intimidated. That concession certainly runs counter to your whole insipid narrative. The video only reinforces what I’ve said and undermines your claims, moron.

      “And only an anguished idiot like you would say Swann wasn’t dominant over the overmatched and overwhelmed Cowboys secondary led by Cliff Harris. Harvey Martin–“Lynn Swann broke our (Landry Cowboys) back. He literally broke our back.” Swann continues to plague Rasputin, too, Harvey.”

      I never said Swann didn’t have a great game. So did various Cowboys. I just refuted your lie that Harris was to blame for Swann’s four catches (and a couple of good plays in a defensive struggle isn’t “overmatched”, halfwit). And you’re the only one having nightmares, Scott, LOL. Those double digit beatdowns Dallas put on the Steelers, including in the Super Bowl, are in recent memory (like 37-7, aka actually being overmatched). The Cowboys are undefeated against the Steelers THIS decade too, so your night terrors are fresh, LMFAO.

      “Why don’t you check out the video again. I’m sure it brings back painful memories:”

      Only a drooling moron like you would be so desperate that you’d claim a link to the SUPER BOWL THIRTY pre game would bring back bad memories for a Cowboys fan. Why don’t you watch the rest of that broadcast instead of clicking away once the game starts?

      BOOM!!!!

      Talk about painful memories for Scott Remington. LMFAO!!

      “So you’re saying you would rather win more regular season games in a decade while another team wins more world titles that same decade?”

      No I said the Steelers didn’t “dominate” the entire 70s like you claimed, as I just explained. They didn’t even dominate those two 4 point squeaker Super Bowls. Man, your reading comprehension sucks.

      “You’re pathetic AND suck at math”

      You’re the loser who sucks so bad at math you can’t figure out why winning consistently for decades instead of just a short few years surrounded by decades of losing is relevant to a discussion about franchise Hall of Famer count. That you still can’t figure it out even after the explanation has been spoonfed to you all this time is pathetic.

      “”Raiders “owned” the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers?”

      I didn’t say the “70s”. The Raiders owned the Steelers when they beat them 6 times in a row in the second half of the 70s through the early 80s. That’s almost as long a streak as the 7 games in a row the Landry Cowboys beat the Steelers in the climax of Chuck Howley’s career. If you had finished high school, Scott Remington, perhaps you could manage less insipid retorts than that.

      “Are you also of the opinion that Lombardi and Walsh weren’t “football geniuses?”

      Lombardi was a great coach (probably better than Noll judging from his quick success turning Washington around) but not an innovator. Walsh was a football genius of high order…..on one side of the ball. Chuck Noll was a good coach but only someone who knows nothing about football would try to claim he was a football genius.

      Your other comments have already been debunked and are mostly irrelevant anyway.

      ““The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH).”

      The 20th Century was old enough for someone to have been born, grow old, and retire before the Steelers won their first playoff game. LMFAO! You keep walking into those faceplants.

      By contrast the Cowboys were winning playoff games by their 8th year of existence.

      • Rasputin
        May 24, 2018
        Reply

        Oh and fittingly a day after I talked about it the NFL finally made a huge step in the right direction by officially requiring players stand respectfully for the national anthem. Should have happened two years ago, but, unlike the indecisive, fence straddling Steelers who embarrassed themselves, kudos to Jerry Jones and America’s Team for being the only franchise to have the courage to go against the media/NFL flow at the time. They were on the right side of history and principle from the get go.

  14. Scott Remington
    May 24, 2018
    Reply

    The Steelers are the most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    “I never said Swann didn’t have a great game.” Liar. You had a breakdown and called him “overrated” and refused to acknowledge that his performance was “record-breaking,” highlighted yet again in your latest in-denial post by refusing to state that he collected 161 yards on “only four catches.” As for the pathetically overmatched and overwhelmed Cliff Harris, he was seen late coming over to help Mark Washington on “Swann’s kangaroo catch.” What the hell was this incoherent garbage: “There’s also a clear shot of that first Swann catch on CB Mark Washington that you dishonestly mocked Harris for supposedly delivering a weak tackle on. Swann was already out of bounds before Harris got there from the other side of the field. Harris hit him just hard enough to make sure he was out without drawing a penalty.” First off, Harris is clearly IN the picture while the ball is STILL in the air and had yet to be caught. Ahhhh, the Rasputin lie-exposing brilliance of YouTube and NFL Films. Why was Harris late getting over? Too slow or too dumb? Or both? Bradshaw was looking in Swann’s direction the whole way. A quality free safety (see Jack Tatum–two INTs– two weeks prior to Harris’ pitiful performance vs. Swann) would read the QBs eyes and be there to break up the play or intercept. Instead of giving up 32 yards. Swann led the league in TD catches that season with 11. Why were the Raiders (with Tatum leading the secondary; How “stupid” does Ron Borges look now?) so effective shutting down Swann while the Cowboys (with Harris leading the secondary) weren’t two weeks later?

    So if Swann was out of bounds when Harris hit him, as you say, that should have been a penalty. So, I guess Jack Lambert’s trashing of Cliff Harris was a make-up call (or noncall)…LOL!!! It was a soft hit by Harris, as Swann bounced right up. Harris hit was like a roll of toilet paper. The hard secondary hits in that game were delivered by Glen Edwards, Mike Wagner and Mel Blount (Golden Richards shut out, beat up and sent out with broken ribs; Jean Fugett knocked out and refusing to go back in–paving the way for Billy Joe Dupree, Drew Pearson a nonfactor after a first quarter TD catch–Swann would outplay Pearson the rest of the game and the decade) . Harris was a nonfactor in Super Bowl X and again in Super Bowl XIII. However, he was the butt of both of them. So I guess Cliff did make his presence felt. LMAO!!!

    I asked “The Raiders “owned” the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers?”

    “I didn’t say the “70s.” You big fat liar. “Even during that one short glory period (that would be the ’70s, you liar. And now, you can’t keep up with your own lies. I keep telling you are way too stupid to try to trick people) the Oakland Raiders absolutely owned the Steelers. Once again, that “one short glory period”–the ’70s–the Steelers-Raiders playoff matchup went in favor of the Steelers, 3-2. In a matchup that features multiple games in a short specific period of time–an era–the team with the losing record NEVER “owned” the team with the winning record. That exchange–that you are STILL not courageous and man enough to admit your mistake–proves what I have said for a while now: You are the one who sucks at math and you are a liar. Epic fail, major stumble off the big stage.

    Here is your gutchuck to see if you have ANY balls at all. Answer these questions you have avoided like the boogieman…or Jack Lambert…LMAO!!!:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers?
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers?

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry? How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?

    Lombardi built the Redskins faster than Noll built the Steelers? Ummm, dumbass? Vince had three HOFers on offense (Sonny Jurgensen, Charley Taylor, and Bobby Mitchell). Big difference. And Jimmy Johnson was lucky, not genius, to find someone (Vikings) as stupid and desperate as you who would trade numerous high future draft picks for one player (Herschel Walker). Jimmy Johnson a better coach than Noll? Noll won more Super Bowls and never lost a playoff game, 62-7. That simply culminated Johnson’s stupid move of bringing in a new offense and destroying the last few years of Dan Marino’s career in Miami. Way to go, Jimmy!

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    I just love whipping your sorry, dumb ass, Rasputin.

  15. Rasputin
    May 24, 2018
    Reply

    Let’s get real. You’re a juvenile moron who acts like the Steelers have twice as many Super Bowl trophies as Dallas. They don’t. They only have one more trophy, and they’ve only had that for ten years. It won’t be that way forever, and it may not be that way for long. Either way Dallas will probably always have a higher all time winning percentage than Pittsburgh because the franchise has higher standards and is under more scrutiny as America’s Team. Even now the Cowboys have the head to head series advantage and won the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one people under 50 remember watching live. They’ve also won every head to head game so far this decade.

    While you’re just a wannabe troll who’s in over his head I indulge these exchanges because it’s fun to kick your ass around this site, whether you’re going by “Scott Remington”, “Joseph Wright”, or whatever other sock account you’ve used being the dishonest coward you are. Nor does it matter what team you’re pretending to be a fan of at a particular time because the Cowboys have the best tradition and history of all of them.

    I just picked apart the video in detail, you lying halfwit. I quoted Ditka saying “those two games” , words you omitted from your quote, not “the 1970s” or “the Landry era”, as anyone can verify by watching it. You have no real response to that but you just keep throwing food at the wall like an infant. In fact you’ve mostly just repeated already debunked points, a true sign your ass has been thoroughly kicked and you’ve got nothing left. Your attempt to imitate my mocking of your meltdown is sad but flattering.

    Again, I never denied Swann had a great game. He IS overrated in terms of his overall career, as the ESPN article I cited argued (they actually got something right). Those two statements aren’t remotely contradictory and you juxtaposing them to call me a “liar” is blatant lying on your part. Again.

    Cliff Harris didn’t touch Swann on that one play until Swann was already out of bounds. Swann clearly beat MARK WASHINGTON, NOT HARRIS, then Cliff Harris (who was very fast and smart in coverage, which is why he was rightly named first team All Decade), ran over (of course he started when the ball was still in the air, moron; he’s not going to wait until it descends and gets caught to start moving) and started to launch himself at Swann. Swann saw Harris and stepped out of bounds to try and avoid him. Harris let up but still made contact with Swann out of bounds. It wasn’t a penalty because players get leeway in borderline situations like that, especially back then.

    If you deny that Harris didn’t touch Swann until he was out of bounds then you’re simply lying about that too as anyone can see.

    As for your BS Tatum comparison, like I schooled “Joseph Wright” on the other article when “he” made the same idiotic claim word for word, the Dallas pass defense held the Steelers overall to fewer passing yards than the Raiders did in the previous game. So even by your one-cherry-picked-game-is-all-that-matters logic you lose. In fact you just faceplanted again. More relevant is the fact that the Cliff Harris Cowboys absolutely crushed the Tatum Raiders in pass defense overall in their careers. On the chance you aren’t Joseph Wright if you want me to repost those devastating sledgehammer facts I can. You suck at math but if you get hit with the truth hard enough and often enough eventually some of it will sink in even if you aren’t man enough to admit it here.

    Claiming Swann outplayed Drew Pearson the rest of the decade is equally ignorant. From 1976-1979 Pearson had 3,416 yards and 205 catches to Swann’s 2,993 and 180 catches. Pearson made 2 first team All Pro teams while Swann only made one. Pearson had both a 1,000 yard season and (in a separate year) a receiving title in that span. Swann never led the league in receiving or had a 1,000 yard season in his entire career, let alone the late 70s.

    The entire 1970s wasn’t the Steelers “glory period”, as I just reminded you elsewhere. Even you tried to claim that anything prior to Lambert, Swann, and Stallworth all being there (which didn’t happen until 1974) wasn’t the real “Super Bowl Steelers”. I specifically cited the Raiders beating the Steelers 6 games in a row from 1976 through 1983, including two crushing playoff blowouts in that span. So that’s another paragraph you wasted stupidly trying to call me a “liar”.

    But if you want to just cover the technical 1970s, then Pittsburgh went 5-6 against Oakland throughout the decade. The Steelers had a losing record against the Raiders in the 1970s. That’s certainly not Steelers dominance.

    But I’m not the one who ascribed decisive importance to scattershot games against a single cherry-picked opponent over some arbitrary time span. A truly educated person would know that’s overly narrow and silly. I threw the losing record versus the Raiders during the Steelers’ “glory period” at you to mock you and destroy your position with your own logic.

    Your list of questions is absurd. What does it matter what Roger Staubach’s record against the Steelers was when you don’t care that Howley beat the Steelers the last 7 times(!) in a row he played them? Are you trying to argue that Staubach doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame? If that’s true then Chuck Howley does belong for the same reason (actually both obviously belong in Canton). Your hypocrisy and cowardly avoidance of the mountains of facts that refute your position on your own terms have been exposed for anyone reading this to see. What’s vastly more important is that all these Cowboys have winning records against almost every team they played, especially the teams they actually played on a regular basis (which wasn’t the Steelers). In fact during the majority of Landry’s career they were the winningest team in the NFL. You can’t just ignore that if you’re pretending team wins matter.

    “Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?

    You feel a single coaching adjustment makes one a “genius”? Tom Landry invented the 4-3, still the standard today. He also revived and perfected the shotgun. He was his own offensive and defensive coordinator. He developed the flex defense. He invented the concepts of strong and free safeties and strong and weak side linebackers. He was ahead of the curve on the multiple offense and pre snap shifting. Landry took defensive linemen and made them Pro Bowl offensive linemen. He took a tight end and made him a HoF tackle. He took a basketball player who didn’t even play college football and made him a 5 time Pro Bowl defensive back.

    THAT’S a football genius. I only covered some highlights. A full list of Landry’s impactful innovations would run much longer.

    “Lombardi built the Redskins faster than Noll built the Steelers?”

    No, moron. It was that Lombardi showed quick success with multiple teams, while Noll faded with the Steelers after that one SB roster faded and wasn’t able to peak again or sustain success like Landry did. Your reading comprehension and critical thinking ability both suck.

    “And Jimmy Johnson was lucky, not genius, to find someone (Vikings) as stupid and desperate as you who would trade numerous high future draft picks for one player (Herschel Walker).”

    Wrong again, dimwit. He still had to pick the right players and coach them up the right way, and he accomplished what no one else ever had. He took his team from worst to first in four years and established a roster that won 3 SBs in 4 years. He was also pretty successful at Miami in a second act in that he made the playoffs the last 3 of his 4 years there, which is more than Noll did in his last 8 years.

    “Jimmy Johnson a better coach than Noll?”

    I don’t recall claiming that but he probably was. He did beat Noll every time their teams played, which by your logic proves he was better. LMFAO!

    Back to the central argument, we’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  16. Scott Remington
    May 25, 2018
    Reply

    “Your list of questions is absurd.” No they’re not. As you said, “You suck at math but if you get hit with the truth hard enough and often enough eventually some of it will sink in even if you aren’t man enough to admit it here.” I couldn’t have said it better. So answer these questions, dummy. Anything less would be cowardly and a comforting concession to us in Steeler Nation that the ’70s Steelers were far superior to Landry’s Cowboys:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers?
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers?
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes?
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever they matched up?

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld it? LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry? How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    This will continue to be my response until AFTER you have fully answered the above questions. Don’t answer the questions with other questions like a coward and lose the Chuck Howley diversions. Of course he was undefeated against the PRE-Super Bowl ’70s Steelers. They were a bad team. Landry’s Cowboys were always good at being the bully.

    Love the way you meltdown whenever Swann is mentioned. “Lynn Swann was overrated” are:

    A. The words of an idiot
    B. The words of a butt-hurt Cowboys fan STILL haunted by nightmares of Swann destroying Cliff Harris and the Cowboys secondary
    C. The words of some young, ignorant kid who looks only at stats
    D. All of the above

  17. Rasputin
    May 26, 2018
    Reply

    You’re punch drunk and just repeating idiotic points you’ve already posted and I’ve already dispensed with, Scott Remington. You’re finished.

    “the Chuck Howley diversions.”

    Chuck Howley is the center of my argument and the main reason I’m posting here, moron. The garbage you’re spewing is the diversion attempt.

    “Of course he was undefeated against the PRE-Super Bowl ’70s Steelers. They were a bad team.”

    In 1972 Pittsburgh went 11-3 and made it to the conference championship. They had a better record than when they won the SB in 74. They lost to the Howley Cowboys though.

    It’s fair to say the Steelers were mostly a bad team before that, but then why do they have almost as many HoFers from the 50s and 60s as the Cowboys do from the entire Landry era? So do lots of other bad teams and good teams that failed to win SBs. That’s a key question here.

    Me (the part you quoted): “Your list of questions is absurd.”

    Me (the part you omitted): “What does it matter what Roger Staubach’s record against the Steelers was when you don’t care that Howley beat the Steelers the last 7 times(!) in a row he played them? Are you trying to argue that Staubach doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame? If that’s true then Chuck Howley does belong for the same reason (actually both obviously belong in Canton). Your hypocrisy and cowardly avoidance of the mountains of facts that refute your position on your own terms have been exposed for anyone reading this to see. What’s vastly more important is that all these Cowboys have winning records against almost every team they played, especially the teams they actually played on a regular basis (which wasn’t the Steelers). In fact during the majority of Landry’s career they were the winningest team in the NFL. You can’t just ignore that if you’re pretending team wins matter. ”

    You: “No they’re not.”

    A pathetic response. You’re too cowardly and defeated to even try. You’ve answered almost none of my questions (making you a coward even by your logic) while I actually have answered most of your lame diversionary questions just for the heck of it, probably more than I should have. I explained the relevance of my questions to the discussion while you failed to do the same.

    “….a comforting concession to us in Steeler Nation that the ’70s Steelers were far superior to Landry’s Cowboys”

    Interesting choice of words. A “comforting concession”. You’re in need of comforting regarding the Cowboys. This time a Freudian faceplant. Not surprising after Zeke broke your team’s back in their last meeting and with visions of that double digit beat down in SB 30 still haunting your nightmares, LMFAO. You’re especially butthurt over that.

    “If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes?”

    Why did Pearson triple Swann in first team All Pro selections?

    “Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever they matched up?”

    When did they “match up”? They both played offense, dummy. They’re not on the field at the same time. Pearson outplayed Swann in their careers as the facts I posted show.

    “The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era.”

    Temporarily, since 2008. Probably not for much longer. They certainly haven’t won the most though. The Cowboys have, even head to head against the Steelers.

    “I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said.”

    I quoted the portion you omitted, you lying halfwit. You’re the one who took part of his comment out of context and weakly tried to twist it. The Landry Cowboys were the better team a lot of years.

    “Landry’s Cowboys were always good at being the bully.”

    The opposite is the case as I proved above and you failed to rebut.

    “Love the way you meltdown whenever Swann is mentioned.”

    I’m amused that me commenting on your actual meltdown has so clearly gotten under your skin. And you bringing up Swann are soft pitches over the middle that are easily knocked out of the park. I just need to post their stats side by side to show that Pearson’s are superior, as I did above and you ignored (or pretended to ignore, LOL). Multiple times you even harped on the All Decade voting tallies, admitting in the process that Drew Pearson “only” got the second most votes out of all the receivers in the NFL, LMFAO! Talk about a myopic moron faceplanting.

    The rest of your post was just more repetition of already debunked garbage.

    “This will continue to be my response”

    If you’ve been beaten that badly it’s easy for me to copy paste too.

    Dallas will probably always have a higher all time winning percentage than Pittsburgh because the franchise has higher standards and is under more scrutiny as America’s Team. Even now the Cowboys have the head to head series advantage and won the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one people under 50 remember watching live. They’ve also won every head to head game so far this decade.

    We’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  18. Scott Remington
    May 26, 2018
    Reply

    First off, Mr. Diversionary, I never said Staubach shouldn’t be in the Hall of Fame. Drew Pearson was blown out by Lynn Swann for votes (21-7) as the best WR of the ’70s. And what happened? The THIRD place entrant (Paul Warfield–Pearson only beat him by two votes) passed Drew Pearson up for membership in the Hall of Fame. As you with your fetish for “yards” can’t even ever bring yourself to say that Swann burned sorry Cliff Harris for a Super Bowl-record 161 yards…on “only four catches.”

    And then after I pulled your pants down on your ignorant “Raiders owned the Steelers” comment in their “one glory period” which you have called a “six-year period(1974-79),” you then expand the period to 1983. It doesn’t work. Too cowardly to admit an enormous mistake. Enormously pathetic. Then again, that’s the ignorance of Rasputin that we must clean up on this Steeler post he continues to vandalize.

    Now the questions you continue to cowardly avoid…like Jack Lambert:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers?
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers?
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes?
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up?

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

  19. Rasputin
    May 26, 2018
    Reply

    What makes the 1995 postseason particularly important historically is that it represents the climax of the Great Team Era, the following season being the tipping point into the Parity Era and the current long stretch without any truly great teams. In those playoffs you fittingly had the Cowboys, 49ers, Steelers, and Packers, and even a supporting cast that included the Dolphins, Bills, Colts, and Chiefs. That final year the Super Bowl era’s most iconic franchises were all duking it out in the end….with the good guys winning it all. 🙂

    “I never said Staubach shouldn’t be in the Hall of Fame”

    Then I’m glad you implicitly concede your own idiotic argument about performance against a single team (in this case the Steelers) is irrelevant to this HoF discussion, as are your “questions”. If you had graduated high school, Scott Remington, you might be able to come up with something better than repeating a bunch of diversionary crap I’ve already debunked and questions I’ve already answered while ignoring those answers and virtually all the questions I’ve asked. You’ve shown yourself to be a coward, a moron, a hypocrite, an ignoramus, and a liar, and your ass has been thoroughly kicked all over this site. You’ve been utterly defeated. Not one of those 4 point controversial squeakers either, but a 52-21 style defeat like when the Landry/Howley Cowboys blew out Pittsburgh or when the 90s Cowboys crushed the Steelers 37-7.

    The bottom line is we’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  20. Scott Remington
    May 26, 2018
    Reply

    “What makes the 1995 postseason particularly important historically is that it represents the climax of the Great Team Era, the following season being the tipping point into the Parity Era and the current long stretch without any truly great teams.”

    Wrong.

    The Broncos won two straight (1997,1998) and then the Patriots took three in four years in the 21st century, five overall. Within the new millennium, the Steelers took home two Lombardi’s in a four-year span, better than any four-year span the LANDRY Cowboys had and better than anything the 21st Cowboys have done. And the Staubach question (that your cowardice keeps alive below) is in response to your ignorant comment “beating the Steelers is a Cowboy tradition.” But enough of the weak diversionary tactics you always cowardly flee to whenever you are getting your ass kicked by me and countless others, Rasputin.

    You can’t say you’ve “debunked” questions you haven’t answered. Try to read this, dummy: Debunked–expose the falseness or hollowness of (a myth, idea, or belief). You have exposed no falseness whatsoever. Know what “debunk” or “debunked” means before you use it. BTW, “debunk” and “cowardly avoid” are two totally different concepts.

    Now the questions you continue to cowardly avoid…like Cliff Harris cowardly avoided Jack Lambert:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys? **
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys? **
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft? **
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)? **
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry? **
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh? **
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass? **

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

    **–Rasputin: Crickets

    • Rasputin
      May 26, 2018
      Reply

      To follow up on one of my questions that you’ve completely dodged, being the cowardly hypocritical moron you are, let’s see how these Cowboys stack up against these non-Super Bowl Steelers who are in the HoF. I’ll leave Bobby Layne out since he was a champion QB for the Lions before those last 5 years at Pittsburgh.

      Chuck Howley – 5 first team All Pros, 6 Pro Bowls, SB MVP, exclusive 20/20 sack/interception club, 43 combined takeaways rank 2nd in NFL history among OLBs
      Cliff Harris – 3 first team All Pros, 6 Pro Bowls, first team All Decade
      Drew Pearson – 3 first team All Pros, 3 Pro Bowls, first team All Decade
      Jack Butler – 3 first team All Pros, 4 Pro Bowls, All Decade
      Ernie Stautner – 1 first team All Pro, 9 Pro Bowls, All Decade
      John Henry Johnson – 0 first team All Pros, 4 Pro Bowls

      Those SB winning Cowboys stack up extremely well individually against those non-SB Steelers in the HoF. Heck, let’s see how they stack up against some of the HoF SB Steelers.

      Chuck Howley – 5 first team All Pros, 6 Pro Bowls, SB MVP, exclusive 20/20 sack/interception club, 43 combined takeaways rank 2nd in NFL history among OLBs
      Cliff Harris – 3 first team All Pros, 6 Pro Bowls, first team All Decade
      Drew Pearson – 3 first team All Pros, 3 Pro Bowls, first team All Decade
      Mel Blount – 2 first team All Pros, 5 Pro Bowls, first team All Decade
      Lynn Swann – 1 first team All Pro, 3 Pro Bowls, SB MVP, first team All Decade
      Terry Bradshaw – 1 first team All Pro, 3 Pro Bowls, SB MVP, first team All Decade
      John Stallworth – 1 first team All Pro, 3 Pro Bowls

      They stack up well against those guys too and of course against many HoFers from other teams. All three Cowboys should be in Canton.

      Everything you said in your post is wrong. None of those Parity Era teams you mentioned were great. I’m not talking about winning multiple titles nor did I coin the term “Parity Era”. Since you’re ignorant (you didn’t even finish high school) let me educate you.

      Smart observers all recognize that new salary cap and free agency rules enacted in the 90s have changed the league ever since. Gone are the days when teams could be stacked with depth at every position on both sides of the ball. Broadcasters calling a game in the late 70s said that Cowboys safety Randy Hughes was the 3rd best safety in the NFL, and that all 3 played for Dallas. SB champions used to have to be at least good on both sides of the ball, and some (like the champion Cowboys) were great on both sides.

      The Patriots won 5 SBs (against Parity Era opposition)….all by 3 or 4 points. They weren’t dominant. In fact the 2001 Patriots were the first SB champion to be merely average on both sides of the ball. They were a good team that was more than the sum of its parts and was gutsy in the clutch, but they weren’t great. The Patriots dynasty has been great in the sense that they’ve been consistently near or at the top of the league, but that’s because Belichick was the first to figure out how to adjust to and maintain rosters with the salary cap, and because Brady is a great QB.

      New England doesn’t dominate or crush teams in the Super Bowl. Even the good teams this century have holes all over them. Champions now are typically good or sometimes great on one side of the ball and average or mediocre on the other side. Extreme examples of this are the 2000 Ravens, the 2002 Bucs, the 2006 Colts, the 2009 Saints, the 2010 Packers, etc., but all the recent champions conform to that pattern to some degree. In 2005 the Steelers ranked 4th in defense but only 15th in offense. In 2008 they ranked 1st in defense but only 22nd(!) in offense.

      Nor do most teams share the Patriots’ consistency. It’s far more frequent for champions to miss the playoffs the following year or vice versa than it used to be. That’s just a fact. Higher yearly turnover has also negatively impacted continuity and the quality of play on the field, especially on special teams coverage. They’re almost starting from scratch each year.

      They superpower Cowboys and 49ers in the early 90s were the last truly great NFL teams, as Pat Summerall correctly predicted at the time, at least for now. Things could change again at some point.

      You’re welcome for the free education on yet another topic.

      You didn’t even try to articulate a rational argument against the above Cowboys’ HoF candidacies. You must know you can’t but you aren’t man enough to admit it. You just repeated a bunch of debunked diversionary garbage because you’re a lying, cowardly moron who knows I’ve thoroughly kicked your ass.

      As for your off topic stuff, the Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They have a winning head to head record against the Steelers and whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade.

      Back to the actual topic, we’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

    • Rasputin
      May 26, 2018
      Reply

      BTW, here’s a quote directly from the Pro Football Hall of Fame’s website on the 1970s All Decade team page:

      “But perhaps more than the star players, the decade was dominated by dynasty teams like the Pittsburgh Steelers, Minnesota Vikings, Miami Dolphins, Oakland Raiders, and Dallas Cowboys.”

      The PFHOF calls the Landry Cowboys a “dynasty” team. I don’t even really care about that diversionary sementical tangent you spent countless posts on, but I’m posting this to underscore that you’ve been totally crushed even on the off topic stuff that was most important to you, LMFAO! You certainly lost the more important debate about Cowboys HoFers.

  21. Scott Remington
    May 26, 2018
    Reply

    More diversionary garbage, further confirming my recognition of Rasputin as a coward. Randy Hughes? Who? Really?

    The Landry Cowboys are well-represented in the Hall of Fame. If you’re going to gripe about someone from the Landry era not being in, show some objectivity and campaign for Harvey Martin. These other guys are either a beneficiary of Landry’s system (Howley), an overrated stiff (Cliff Harris), or a product of a few ( three, maybe four–NONE OF WHICH led to a world title, BTW) shining moments (Pearson).

    Can’t speak on Jack Butler but Ernie Stautner was a STUD DT of his era. So much so, that LANDRY put him on the Dallas coaching staff. John Henry Johnson was a part of the Million Dollar Backfield with 49ers with Y.A. Tittle, Hugh McElhenny, and Joe Perry. Johnson was also a vicious special teams player. As for the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers HOFers…How ignorant are you to even SUGGEST that Cliff Harris was on par with Mel Blount? Are you dumb enough to say Harris was better? A shutdown corner and an often burnt free safety? Ridiculous.
    Swann or Stallworth were better than Pearson and either one, the other, or both always outperformed him in the Steelers-Cowboys games. Swann’s Super Bowl MVP performance far exceeds Howley’s. No Colt EVER said “Chuck Howley broke our back in Super Bowl V.” Bradshaw, Swann, and Stallworth destroyed Harris repeatedly. Enough!

    Once again…

    Now the questions you continue to cowardly avoid…like Cliff Harris cowardly avoided Jack Lambert:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys? **
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys? **
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft? **
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)? **
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry? **
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh? **
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass? **

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

    **–Rasputin: Crickets

    • Rasputin
      May 26, 2018
      Reply

      “The Landry Cowboys are well-represented in the Hall of Fame.”

      They objectively have fewer in Canton than several teams with one or zero Super Bowl wins do from that era as the numbers I’ve posted elsewhere here show. They’re even down close to teams like the Lions, Bill, and Eagles so no, they aren’t well represented at all. And the individual cases are overwhelming. Almost no one with 4 first team NFL All Pro selections has been snubbed by the HoF, let alone 5. Yet Howley has. Harris and Pearson are the ONLY members of the first team 70s All Decade offense/defense not already in the HoF.

      The Cowboys are underrepresented on both team and individual grounds.

      “Randy Hughes? Who?”

      Randy Hughes was the safety who accounted for 3 turnovers off the bench in SB XII and was considered for MVP. Once again you show your ignorance. If you ever decide to watch the game check out Cliff Harris delivering the brutal (but clean) shot that knocked Rick Upchurch (first team All Decade kick returner and the Broncos’ biggest playmaker that day) unconscious.

      Almost your entire posting has been a diversion, Scott Remington, you cowardly moron. And making one line assertions (which are often lies) without even trying to support them with facts or logic is a cowardly cop out that underscores how badly I’ve kicked your ass and how deeply uneducated you are.

      For example: “These other guys are either a beneficiary of Landry’s system (Howley),”

      Howley was selected first team All Pro 5 times, putting him in extremely elite company in NFL history (certainly none of those Steelers HoFers I listed above had those honors). He was the first defensive player named SB MVP. If he was just a “beneficiary” of the “system” (whatever that even means, you failed to articulate it) then why did D.D. Lewis, a good player and Howley’s immediate successor, not make a single Pro Bowl or All Pro team? You know nothing about football and have no idea what you’re talking about. Howley was a key player who made the “system” work. That’s why during the SB VI broadcast Pat Summerall said that when he asked the Dolphin players before the game which Cowboy they respected the most Howley’s name came up more often than anyone else’s.

      He was strongly considered for MVP again that game, which he won 24-3, because he again accounted for multiple turnovers. Howley almost always turned in a great performance, especially in big games.

      “an overrated stiff (Cliff Harris),”

      LOL! You’ve given up now. That barely even qualifies as an insult let alone an argument. Pathetic. And wrong. I refer you back to the pass defense rankings I posted above showing the steep drop from around the league’s best year after year to mid-pack as soon as Harris retired. His first team All Decade status was warranted. You certainly failed to back up your lie about him being “burned”.

      “or a product of a few ( three, maybe four–NONE OF WHICH led to a world title, BTW) shining moments (Pearson).”

      You mean 3 of the greatest plays in NFL history as ranked by NFL Films (and actually many more)? You’re forgetting his thousand yard seasons (at a time when that was rare, and certainly something Swann never accomplished and Stallworth didn’t do until after the shift to 16 game seasons), his receiving title (neither Swann nor Stallworth ever led the league in receiving yards), and his superior overall stats.

      Pearson led the NFL in receiving yards the year his team won the Super Bowl. So he played a huge role in that championship. While he posted some of the greatest career playoff stats in history, sometimes he was also useful in drawing a lot of defensive attention, which opened things up for other players. Pearson was fine with that because he was first and foremost a team player, and the facts show he was consistently great.

      That right there is an example of you lying. In fact your lies are often the opposite of the truth as this one was.

      “If you’re going to gripe about someone from the Landry era not being in, show some objectivity and campaign for Harvey Martin.”

      I support Martin and Ed Too Tall Jones for the HoF too, though with fewer Pro Bowl/All Pro accolades than the top 3 guys and with Martin only being 2nd team All Decade they have a harder road for now. You didn’t lay out a case for Martin or explain what you mean by showing “objectivity”. If you are Joseph Wright I could guess why, LOL, but I’ll graciously refrain for now.

      “Can’t speak on Jack Butler but Ernie Stautner was a STUD DT of his era. So much so, that LANDRY put him on the Dallas coaching staff. ”

      Can’t speak on Butler? Great, you’re even ignorant of your own alleged favorite team’s history. As for Stautner, playing and coaching are two entirely different skill sets (if you knew anything about sports you’d know that) and I agree that he was a great player. But he wasn’t any better than Chuck Howley and he made one first team All Pro team to Howley’s 5.

      “John Henry Johnson was a part of the Million Dollar Backfield with 49ers with Y.A. Tittle, Hugh McElhenny, and Joe Perry. Johnson was also a vicious special teams player.”

      Special teams player, LOL? Really? You mean like Cliff Harris?

      Johnson barely rushed for 1,000 yards in his 3 seasons at San Francisco combined. He played twice as long at Pittsburgh as anywhere else and that’s where most of his productivity and starting time was.

      He only made 4 Pro Bowls and never led the NFL in rushing. His lone championship was with Detroit in a year in which he contributed 621 rushing yards and 5 TDs as part of a committee. He made no Pro Bowls at Detroit. He made one Pro Bowl with SF and his other 3 came as a Steeler. Four of his six years with the Steelers were losing seasons and they never made the playoffs.

      He was a good RB but he isn’t more deserving of Canton than the three Cowboys being discussed.

      “As for the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers HOFers…How ignorant are you to even SUGGEST that Cliff Harris was on par with Mel Blount? Are you dumb enough to say Harris was better? A shutdown corner and an often burnt free safety? Ridiculous.”

      You’re still lying about Harris being “burnt” (the secondaries he led were consistently among the NFL’s best, LOL).

      Comparing CBs and Ss is a little apples and oranges but Cliff Harris objectively had 6 Pro Bowls and 3 first team All Pro selections while Blount only had 5 Pro Bowls and 2 first team All Pro selections. They were both first team Decade, Harris in the 70s and Blount in the 80s, but Harris actually deserved his. His career coincided entirely with the 1970s and he was the best player on a secondary that won 5 conference championships and shut down opposing passing attacks week after week.

      Blount only played 4 years into the 1980s and was given that honor out of a pro Steelers afterglow sentiment left over from the 70s (when he was not chosen as All Decade). Blount only made one Pro Bowl in the 1980s. That spot should have gone to someone more deserving like Everson Walls, who made 4 Pro Bowls that decade and led the NFL in interceptions a record 3 years.

      HoF voter quality declined greatly from the early 80s on as new, more biased and less thoughtful selectors came in, many of whom resented “America’s Team” for beating their home town teams so often over the years as they were growing up.

      But yeah, Harris and Blount are at least on “par” and Harris factually has more accolades. Harris was also a versatile, revolutionary player whose hard hitting style and contributions in the run game inspired league wide changes to what teams looked for in free safeties, as HoF S Larry Wilson observed, while Blount was just another great CB. They certainly aren’t so far apart that Blount merits quick induction while Harris NEVER goes in. He’s waited more than long enough.

      “No Colt EVER said “Chuck Howley broke our back in Super Bowl V.””

      The Dolphins probably said it when Howley sealed the win in SB VI with his interception and 41 yard return to kill Miami’s drive and set up the final score, moron. LMFAO! Both of Howley’s turnovers set up Dallas scores. You might faceplant less if you didn’t have so many blindspots that cause you to forget salient facts.

      Most reasonably objective, honest outside observers think that Howley, Harris, and Pearson are among the most deserving of induction out of all the candidates still not in.

      The rest of your post was just regurgitating already debunked diversionary crap while ignoring almost every question I’ve asked and point I’ve made.

      As for your off topic stuff, the Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They have a winning head to head record against the Steelers and whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade.

      Back to the actual topic, we’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  22. Scott Remington
    May 26, 2018
    Reply

    So the PFHOF, who has inducted a South Florida game manager, a hitch pattern receiving stat-padder from Washington, and a whining, stat-padding receiver from Minnesota, has now proclaimed the Landry Cowboys (two SBs in five years), Raiders (one SB in ’70s) and Vikings (none–0-3), “dynasties.” That doesn’t bode well for you, Rasputin. Pitiful.

    • Rasputin
      May 26, 2018
      Reply

      Maybe they were considering the Vikings to be an NFC dynasty, seeing as how they won 3 NFC championships that decade and 4 in that era. Or maybe by “dynasty” they just meant they were consistently great. The Landry Cowboys certainly were, winning 5(!) NFC championships and 2 Super Bowls that decade, winning more games than any other team in the 70s, appearing in 12(!) NFC Championship games in 17 years, and posting 20 consecutive winning seasons (18 of them playoff years), an NFL record that still stands. The word “dynasty” hardly seems to do those unmatched achievements justice, but it can suffice.

      Regardless, the PFHOF disagrees with you on whether the Landry Cowboys were a “dynasty”. Clinging to your irrelevant position forces you to again concede that the HoF routinely makes mistakes, contradicting your earlier insipid circular argument that Pearson et al. getting snubbed by the HoF proves they don’t belong in the HoF. I agree the HoF has made a lot of mistakes, though not on the semantics of “dynasty”.

      Their biggest mistake has been that they haven’t already inducted Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson.

  23. Scott Remington
    May 29, 2018
    Reply

    “If (Howley) was just a “beneficiary” of the “system” (whatever that even means, you failed to articulate it)…” You know exactly what I mean. For examples, check out Joe Theismann, Jay Schroeder, Doug Williams, and Rark Rypien and their respective times with the Redskins; Art Monk (Redskins) or Cris Carter (Vikings); Charles White or Greg Bell (Rams). I could go on. Bottom line: Chuck Howley–beneficiary of Landry’s system.

    “LOL! You’ve given up now. That barely even qualifies as an insult let alone an argument. Pathetic. And wrong. I refer you back to the pass defense rankings I posted above showing the steep drop from around the league’s best year after year to mid-pack as soon as Harris retired. His first team All Decade status was warranted. You certainly failed to back up your lie about him being ‘burned’.”

    I’ve given up because I called Cliff Harris a stiff? He WAS a stiff. Definitely was if he continually got lit up by “overrated” receivers like Swann and Stallworth on the big stage (Super Bowl) for the world to see. I find it interesting that the paper champion free safety of the Cowboys couldn’t uphold those false standards (i.e., high pass defense ratings) when matched up against an “overrated” wideout tandem in a world championship game. I never lied about him getting burned because the films and video back me up: He is late (too dumb/too slow) coming over to help his corner on “Swann’s kangaroo catch” in Super Bowl X. He is late coming over to help his corner on Stallworth’s first TD in Super Bowl XIII, then gets absolutely dusted by Stallworth on the last 50 yards of a Super Bowl-record 75-yard TD reception, and fails to cover Swann on a leaping 18-yard TD (Harris: “That was my fault. He must have been 12 feet in the air.” SMH, LOL!!!).

    Then you showed no shame by CONFIRMING that you are stupid enough to say Harris was better than Mel Blount. Blount was ridiculously left off the All-70s team for Roger Wherli. Insane. You gripe about Blount on the All-80s team but don’t give a peep about Larry Wilson’s presence on the All-70s team. Blount’s All-80s selection was a shameless make up call for the All-70s snub. What was being made up for regarding Wilson? He made the All-60s team. The all-70s team secondary selections are saturated in politics: Blount and Wagner were perceived as being carried by the Steel Curtain and the linebackers; Jack Tatum, who made clean hits, was smeared by the Darryl Stingley aftermath; Jake Scott was allegedly linked to “point-shaving.” All these guys were better than Cliff Harris, who got the first team selectio–by default–based on unjustified negative perceptions. Wilson benefited as well.

    However, Only Bob Lilly made the 75th Anniversary Team. That says a lot about the credentials of Howley, Harris, Pearson and all other 1960-94 Cowboys. Ham and Lambert–far superior LBs to Howley–made that team. Blount–a far superior DB to Harris–also made that team. Lynn Swann will have to settle for roasting Drew Pearson (by way of cremating Harris) 21-7 in All-70s votes for the title of Best Wide Receiver of the 70s.

    So, what’s this obsession over Joseph Wright? Who the hell is Joseph Wriight? Random and very much like your obsessions/nightmares with Swann, Stallworth, and Lambert. Stay focused, dummy.

    “‘No Colt EVER said ‘Chuck Howley broke our back in Super Bowl V.’

    The Dolphins probably said it when Howley…” Stop. After Super VI, the Dolphins were talking about Duane Thomas, not Howley.

    Once again…

    Now the questions you continue to cowardly avoid…like Cliff Harris cowardly avoided Jack Lambert:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys? **
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys? **
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft? **
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)? **
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry? **
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh? **
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass? **

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

    **–Rasputin: Crickets

  24. Rasputin
    May 29, 2018
    Reply

    “Bottom line: Chuck Howley–beneficiary of Landry’s system.”

    You still failed to articulate how Howley was supposedly just a system beneficiary. Listing a few Redskins QBs isn’t an answer. Nor did you respond to my point about Howley receiving all those accolades while his successor D.D. Lewis didn’t. You might have known the necessity of doing that in a rational argument if you had finished high school, Scott Remington.

    “The all-70s team secondary selections are saturated in politics: Blount and Wagner were perceived as being carried by the Steel Curtain and the linebackers;”

    How is that “politics”, moron? Maybe they were carried by the Steel Curtain.

    ” Jack Tatum, who made clean hits, was smeared by the Darryl Stingley aftermath;”

    The Stingley hit wasn’t until 1978. Tatum wasn’t chosen to the Pro Bowl in 76 or 77 despite his team winning the SB in 76 so your excuse fails. That probably had more to do with his secondary ranking among the league’s worst than “politics”. Tatum only made 3 Pro Bowls his entire career and was never selected first team All Pro. Cliff Harris was selected to 6 Pro Bowls and 3 first team All Pro teams in the 70s, and unlike Tatum his secondary was consistently among the league’s best.

    You keep saying “torched”, blaming Harris for specific plays in the Super Bowl that were the fault of a cornerback (a safety can’t cover the entire field on every play). You were also caught lying about his performance in SB X. Those are just two games anyway. Harris’ Cowboys shut down Miami in SB VI and the Broncos in SB XII, holding Denver QB Morton to a 0.0 passer rating. Perhaps more importantly Dallas ranked much better in pass defense than the secondaries of Tatum and those other guys you mentioned OVERALL for Harris’ career. It’s not even close.

    So even by your childish logic Cliff Harris was “torched” far less than Tatum or anyone else you mentioned.

    “However, Only Bob Lilly made the 75th Anniversary Team. That says a lot about the credentials of Howley, Harris, Pearson and all other 1960-94 Cowboys.”

    Voted on by non-contemporary selectors. You need to make up your mind whether the PFHOF makes good decisions or bad ones. You just whined about a litany of supposed mistakes they’ve made when I quoted them calling the Landry Cowboys a “dynasty”. You were compelled to admit that Howley was better than around half that long list of senior inductees from the past couple of decades I named earlier, which in turn forced you to claim they didn’t belong in the HoF either to cling to your wrong position that Howley doesn’t. You even just got done blasting the HoF’s All Decade decisions in the 70s in your latest post.

    After all that you now suddenly revert to the mindless circular argument that the HoF decision must be right because it’s the decision the HoF made? LMAO! You really should have stayed in school, idiot. You don’t know how to think.

    “Blount–a far superior DB to Harris–also made that team.”

    He wasn’t superior in Pro Bowls or first team All Pro selections by contemporaries who were watching them play at the time, LOL. Seems more like Blount benefited from some Steelers’ coattails and nostalgic hype years after the fact.

    That said, most HoFers aren’t on the 75th Anniversary team. It’s not a prerequisite for induction.

    “Lynn Swann will have to settle for roasting Drew Pearson (by way of cremating Harris) 21-7 in All-70s votes for the title of Best Wide Receiver of the 70s.”

    Pearson was better than Swann. But even if you base your assessment on that All Decade vote, then you’re admitting that Pearson was the second best WR of the 1970s, LOL. The second best WR of the entire decade certainly merits HoF induction.

    “After Super VI, the Dolphins were talking about Duane Thomas, not Howley.”

    Wrong. Especially given that Howley had just broken their back with that interception and 41 yard return.

    The rest of your post just repeats already debunked claims and already answered questions while ignoring my more pertinent questions and arguments like the coward you’ve shown yourself to be. It merits no response.

    The Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They have a winning head to head record against the Steelers and whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade. No wonder you’re so butthurt and obsessively resentful. 🙂

    We’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  25. Scott Remington
    May 29, 2018
    Reply

    Swann or Stallworth were better than Pearson and either one, the other, or both always outperformed him in the Steelers-Cowboys games. Swann’s Super Bowl MVP performance far exceeds Howley’s. Bradshaw, Swann, and Stallworth destroyed Harris repeatedly.

    Noll made the playoffs in his 4th year of building the Steelers. It took Landry seven years to put the Cowboys in postseason.

    Noll won the Steelers first Super Bowl in his six season. Landry won his first Super Bowl in his 12th.

    Bradshaw Super Bowl record, 4-0; Aikman Super Bowl record 3-0 Advantage: Bradshaw

    Bradshaw repeats, two; Aikman repeats, one
    Advantage: Bradshaw

    Ben Roethlisberger Super Bowl record, 2-1; Roger Staubach Super Bowl record, 2-2
    Advantage: Roethlisberger

    Franchise World Titles: Pittsburgh, Six; Dallas, Five
    Advantage: Pittsburgh

    Super Bowl head-to-head matchups: Steelers 2-1; Cowboys 1-2
    Advantage: Pittsburgh

    Franchise Super Bowl records: Pittsburgh, 6-2; Dallas, 5-3
    Advantage: Pittsburgh

    Once again…

    Now the questions you continue to cowardly avoid…like Cliff Harris cowardly avoided Jack Lambert:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?**
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?**
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?**
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?**
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?**
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?**
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?**

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

    **–Rasputin: Crickets

    • Rasputin
      May 29, 2018
      Reply

      “Ben Roethlisberger Super Bowl record, 2-1; Roger Staubach Super Bowl record, 2-2
      Advantage: Roethlisberger”

      This would discredit everything you have to say on any topic even if you didn’t add all the other stupid stuff you do. You suck at math and logic. The “1” isn’t better than the “2” there. That “1” just means Roethlisberger lost even more those other years and failed to make it to the Super Bowl. The correct way of looking at that is that Roger won more conference championships than Roethlisberger. So no, it’s definitely advantage Staubach.

      That’s the kind of faceplant that finishing high school might have helped you avoid, Scott Remington.

      “Noll made the playoffs in his 4th year of building the Steelers. It took Landry seven years to put the Cowboys in postseason.”

      Landry was coaching an expansion team, you idiot. The Steelers were an established team that had been around since 1933. In fact Dallas had to start a year early to compete with the new AFL Dallas Texans and didn’t even get to participate in the regular draft, let alone get all the extra picks and other perks more recent expansion teams have gotten. The Cowboys had to fill out their roster with walk ons and through various creative means.

      More telling is the fact that Landry posted 11+ win years with 4 different franchise QBs during his NFL record 20 consecutive winning seasons. Noll only did that with Bradshaw.

      “Bradshaw Super Bowl record, 4-0; Aikman Super Bowl record 3-0 Advantage: Bradshaw”

      New salary cap and free agency rules. Otherwise the young 90s Cowboys probably win 6 or more SBs. More telling is the fact Aikman won 3 SBs in 4 years, a feat Bradshaw could not accomplish, and, unlike Bradshaw and his fluky 4 point squeakers, all 10 Cowboys playoff victories from 1992-1995 were by double digits. That’s dominance.

      The rest of your post just repeats already debunked material while dodging my pertinent questions and arguments like the cowardly liar you’ve shown yourself to be. It’s more proof I’ve thoroughly kicked your ass all over this site.

      The Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They have a winning head to head record against the Steelers and whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade. No wonder you’re so butthurt and obsessively resentful. 🙂

      We’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  26. Scott Remington
    May 29, 2018
    Reply

    “You suck at math and logic. The ‘1’ isn’t better than the ‘2’ there. That ‘1’ just means Roethlisberger lost even more those other years and failed to make it to the Super Bowl. The correct (Landry Cowboy Excuse Machine?) way of looking at that is that Roger won more conference championships than Roethlisberger. So no, it’s definitely advantage Staubach.”

    No way, dummy. A .667 Super Bowl winning percentage (Big Ben) is better than a .500 Super Bowl winning percentage (Roger). Basic math, dummy. Yeah, Staubach won one more conference title…to lose one more Super Bowl…To the Steelers! LOL!!!

    “Landry was coaching an expansion team, you idiot. The Steelers were an established team that had been around since 1933…”

    Both teams sucked, numbskull. Noll was able to put the Steelers into postseason earlier than Landry did with the Cowboys. Then beat him twice in the Super Bowl for emphasis. Heck, John McKay had the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the posteason by year four. Walsh turned the postseason transformation trick in three years in San Francisco. Lombardi turned the trick with the Packers in two years. And Noll, McKay, Walsh, and Lombardi–unlike Jimmy Johnson–were all able to do it without the aid of dumb front office pigeons of another team (1989 Minnesota Vikings).

    I’ve answered your “pertinent questions.” The Landry Cowboys are not underrepresented. I threw you a lob for your satisfaction (Harvey Martin) and you dropped the ball. So be it. Howley, Harris, and Pearson are right where they deserve to be–on the OUTSIDE of the Hall of Fame. Talk to the Hall of Fame writers about why Dick Butkus, Gale Sayers, Larry Wilson, Carl Eller, O.J. Simpson, Merlin Olsen, Paul Krause, Steve Largent, John Hannah, and Deacon Jones are in the Hall of Fame with your fixation about great players from non-world title teams who are in the HOF. Tell me and the rest of us what they tell you. We’ll wait.

    “…More telling is the fact Aikman won 3 SBs in 4 years, a feat Bradshaw could not accomplish, and, unlike Bradshaw and his fluky 4 point squeakers (with Swann and Stallworth, Bradshaw also beat the Cowboys by pointspreads of 15-1977; 11-1979; and 8-1982. Beating the Landry Cowboys wasn’t “fluky.” The better team just always won) all 10 Cowboys playoff victories from 1992-1995 were by double digits. That’s dominance.” So dominant that he and the Cowboys were dethroned by a SECOND-Year expansion team. Went off the stage like Bob Dole, huh, dumbass? We’ve heard the whinings and excuses for the devastating (your man Drew Pearson used that word, so it must be true…Right?) Super Bowl XIII loss. What made the Super Bowl X loss “fluky?” We know it was devastating. Closing Super Bowl X NFL Films highlight footage show Burton Lawless (cringing in anguish), Hollywood Henderson (wringing his hands and grasping his facemask), Unidentified blonde Dallas Cheerleder (wiping tears), and Jethro Pugh (head drooped in the palms of his hands) displaying the devastation. And it’s not over, coward…

    Once again…

    Now the questions you continue to cowardly avoid…like Cliff Harris cowardly avoided Jack Lambert:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?**
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?**
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?**
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?**
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?**
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?**
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?**

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

    **–Rasputin: Crickets

  27. Rasputin
    May 30, 2018
    Reply

    “No way, dummy. A .667 Super Bowl winning percentage (Big Ben) is better than a .500 Super Bowl winning percentage (Roger). Basic math, dummy. Yeah, Staubach won one more conference title…to lose one more Super Bowl”

    It’s not better if they represent the same number of SB wins because one percentage is of 4 trips to the SB while the other is only out of 3. LMFAO! Scott Remington prefers having a losing season (Ben Roethlisberger) to winning a conference championship (Roger Staubach).

    That’s awesome. You may be too dumb to realize it but this is your most spectacular faceplant yet. You have zero credibility. Like I said, you suck at math and logic. You’re a drooling moron. You should have finished high school, Scott.

    “Both teams sucked, numbskull. Noll was able to put the Steelers into postseason earlier than Landry did with the Cowboys.”

    “Sucked” covers a broad range, moron. The Steelers were at least an established, operational NFL team. Dallas was starting from scratch and, again, didn’t even get to participate in the regular draft that first year let alone get the first overall pick plus special perks like other expansion clubs do. They needed a bunch of walk ons to fill out their roster. Your comments only reveal your ignorance.

    The amazing thing is that Landry had the recently expansion Cowboys playing for NFL titles only 5 years later.

    “Bradshaw also beat the Cowboys by pointspreads of 15-1977; 11-1979; and 8-1982.”

    Wait…so now you feel regular season games suddenly matter after you repeatedly claimed they don’t? Make up your mind, you cowardly hypocrite. Howley’s Cowboys beat the Steelers 7 games in a row, including that (truly) devastating 52-21 beat down. THAT’S an ass kicking. The Steelers really got Remingtoned in that one, LMFAO!

    “We’ve heard the whinings and excuses for the devastating (your man Drew Pearson used that word, so it must be true…Right?”

    Psychologically devastating to him because the game was so close and fluky, not because 4 points represent a blow out. And objective facts documented by video are just that. Whining is the irrational, unmanly screeds you spew complaining about the Cowboys.

    The rest of your post just repeated lies and already debunked claims while dodging my pertinent questions and points.

    The Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They have a winning head to head record against the Steelers and whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade. No wonder you’re so butthurt and obsessively resentful. 🙂

    We’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

    • Rasputin
      May 30, 2018
      Reply

      Meant Landry had them playing for titles only 6 years later.

  28. Scott Remington
    May 30, 2018
    Reply

    “No way, dummy. A .667 Super Bowl winning percentage (Big Ben) is better than a .500 Super Bowl winning percentage (Roger). Basic math, dummy. Yeah, Staubach won one more conference title…to lose one more Super Bowl” I can’t help to notice that you left out the closing and most important part of this quote, coward. “To the Steelers!. LOL!!!”

    “It’s not better if they represent the same number of SB wins because one percentage is of 4 trips to the SB while the other is only out of 3. LMFAO! Scott Remington prefers having a losing season (Ben Roethlisberger) to winning a conference championship (Roger Staubach).” What good is winning a conference title if you are going to follow it up by LOSING a Super Bowl (to the STEELERS, of course; this is the Landry Cowboys we’re talking about). So, going by your stupid logic, was Staubach better than Aikman because he won four conference titles and Aikman “only” won three? I guess Tom Landry was a better head coach than Chuck Noll in the ’70s? You’re an idiot, Rasputin.

    No response about the ’90s Cowboys being dethroned by a SECOND-year expansion team in 1996? Your cowardice is not surprising, Rasputin.

    “’Bradshaw also beat the Cowboys by pointspreads of 15-1977; 11-1979; and 8-1982.

    Wait…so now you feel regular season games suddenly matter after you repeatedly claimed they don’t?'”

    You are the one constantly talking about the Landry Cowboys’ regular season success (that didn’t translate into world championship success 2 in 20 years–NOT a dynasty) and pointspreads and you have no answers for those regular season (that you love so much) beatings the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers put on the Landry Cowboys. They played each other five times with Swann, Stallworth, and Lambert and the Steelers kicked some Landry Cowboys ass every single time. The fact of the matter is, in those so-called “squeakers,” the Cowboys fooled people by making the score close after being dominated by 11-(SB X) and 18-(SB XIII) point deficits. The Cowboys never enjoyed those type of leads against the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers, did they, Rasputin? Jackie Smith’s drop? How about Tony Dungy fumbling an onside kick in the same game? And Mike Hegman’s fluky fumble return? The score could have been worse than 35-17 for the Cowboys. We both can play the (Landry Cowboys Fans) Hypothetical Game. But the reality is the Steelers kicked the Cowboys ass yet again.

    Whenever they were evenly matched, the Steelers won. Whenever the Steelers were flawed (e.g., Lack of big play threats: Swann and Stallworth; poor QB: Neil O’Donnell) the Cowboys bullied and took advantage. “Howley’s Cowboys beat the Steelers 7 games in a row, including that (truly) devastating 52-21 beat down. THAT’S an ass kicking.” Because the Steelers were a poor team. Do you see me bragging about the Steelers win over Dallas in ’61? SMH. In spite of the Dallas bullying, the Steelers franchise STILL looks down on the Cowboys franchise with six World Titles to the Cowboys five. Noll created a postseason team in less time and won his first Super Bowl in less time than Landry.

    Even John McKay got the lowly Tampa Bay Bucs into the playoffs in less time than Landry. No first round picks? Nonsense. Landry built the Cowboys with Bob Lilly. Noll built the Steelers with Joe Greene. McKay built the Bucs with Lee Roy Selmon. The routes taken were interchangeable. And Noll and McKay made the playoffs (in four years) after taking over a disaster before Landry could (in seven years).

    And now, the Rasputin cowardly nature will be on FULL DISPLAY…

    Why are these simple questions so hard for you to answer? Are you too dumb? Or just too scared? LMAO!!!

    Once again…

    Now the questions you continue to cowardly avoid…like Cliff Harris cowardly avoided Jack Lambert:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?**
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?**
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?**
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?**
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?**
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?**
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?**

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

    **–Rasputin: Crickets

  29. Rasputin
    May 30, 2018
    Reply

    Scott Remington believes the 2017 Browns (0-16) had a better season than the 2017 Patriots (13-3) because the Patriots lost the Super Bowl while the Browns managed to avoid that fate. This tells anyone reading this all one needs to know about Scott. You see 2017 caused New England’s SB winning percentage to decline while the Browns’ remained unaltered, which in Remington’s book is advantage Browns. After all it’s….

    “Basic math, dummy.”

    LMFAO! Not only does this spectacular faceplant illustrate what a drooling moron Scott Remington is, it also showcases his cowardice. Scott would rather not go to the Super Bowl at all than risk losing there. I’m sure that attitude has shaped his life and explains a lot about his posting here.

    I’m not going to let this go both because using this to kick you around is fun and because you lack even the good sense to retract your comment and try to chalk it up to being tired or distracted or something. You’re actually doubling down on it! Hilarious.

    “So, going by your stupid logic, was Staubach better than Aikman because he won four conference titles and Aikman “only” won three? I guess Tom Landry was a better head coach than Chuck Noll in the ’70s?”

    Staubach is better than Aikman because he had superior mobility and retired with the highest career passer rating in NFL history, moron. Almost every expert gives Staubach at least a slight edge. Aikman’s SB success was better because he won more SBs. By contrast Roethlisberger has NOT so far won more SBs than Staubach. It’s simple math, dummy. This isn’t complicated.

    “I guess Tom Landry was a better head coach than Chuck Noll in the ’70s?”

    Of course, mostly due to all the innovations I listed in that paragraph answering your “genius” question that you completely ignored like the lying coward you are.

    “No response about the ’90s Cowboys being dethroned by a SECOND-year expansion team in 1996?”

    I responded by pointing out that new salary cap and free agency rules robbed them of lots of important players and prematurely ended their dynasty as they would have the Steelers, Packers or any other team from the past. As for Carolina doing well its second season, that was the most pampered team ever in terms of extra draft picks and other perks (including rights to a number of good veterans), which is why I contrasted that with Landry’s Cowboys getting royally screwed over when they started and not even getting to participate in the regular draft, a point you’ve ignored, you lying wuss. In fact Carolina was so overpowered by those expansion perks that they toned it down a bit later for the Texans and new Browns, though those teams still had it a lot better than the 1960 Cowboys did.

    “You are the one constantly talking about the Landry Cowboys’ regular season success”

    And you’ve been screaming that those regular season games supposedly don’t matter because the Cowboys have mostly beaten the Steelers head to head, won more games in the 1970s than any other team, own the longest winning streak in the head to head series (7 games during the Landry era), own the biggest head to head blowouts, and have beaten Pittsburgh every time they’ve played so far this decade, LMFAO. That’s the big picture, not your dishonest cherry-picking. You’re a crying hypocrite, Scott Remington.

    “The fact of the matter is, in those so-called “squeakers,” the Cowboys fooled people by making the score close after being dominated by 11-(SB X) and 18-(SB XIII) point deficits.”

    Actually the Cowboys led most of SB X, first taking the lead with Staubach’s 29 yard TD pass to Drew Pearson in the 1st quarter. Pittsburgh didn’t take its first lead in the game until the 4th quarter with about 9 minutes left. The Steelers were only up by 2 scores for about a minute and a half, so THAT was the fluky aberration that was quickly erased by Cowboys scoring. If the game had lasted longer Dallas probably would have retaken the lead and won.

    Similarly SB XIII was within one score back and forth the entire game until the 4th quarter with 7:47 left. That’s when the sequence happened…..BS 33 yard passing interference call bails out Pittsburgh followed by referee interference letting Franco Harris (who had been otherwise totally shut down) run for a TD followed by a botched Steelers kick off (not an intentional strategy) going short to Randy White who happened to be playing with a cast on his hand and who fumbled setting the Steelers up in scoring position again in the Dallas red zone. All that happened within one minute of game time. That’s not whining, those are facts. That’s why the game is properly described as “fluky”. The Cowboys storming back and almost winning anyway was a regression to the mean (you might have known what that means if you had attended college or at least finished high school), putting things back to normal.

    You can’t whine about “hypotheticals” and then spew BS hypotheticals trying to pretend the games weren’t close when they were. The bottom line is that they both ended in 4 point margins. Nothing at all like the many beatdowns the Cowboys put on the Steelers, including a 31 point margin (1966), 14 point margin (1985), 15 point margin (1962), 21 point margin (1968), 30 point margin (1997), and of course the 10 point margin in SB XXX. 🙂

    “Whenever they were evenly matched, the Steelers won. Whenever the Steelers were flawed (e.g., Lack of big play threats: Swann and Stallworth; poor QB: Neil O’Donnell) the Cowboys bullied and took advantage.”

    The Cowboys beat the Steelers in 1972 without Roger Staubach AT OAKLAND to boot, you whiny loser. LMFAO!! That was one of Pittsburgh’s best seasons all decade (11-3, AFC championship; Cowboys were 10-4). And the 1975 Cowboys were an underdog wildcard team (the first to make it to the SB) who were rebuilding after massive retirements and weren’t even expected to make the playoffs. They knocked off the mighty, heavily favored Vikings during what many believe was Minnesota’s best season, and almost knocked off the Steelers after leading most of the game. Unlike the Steelers, who have mostly fallen off the map outside of their few SB seasons, like true bullies who fold when punched in the mouth, the Cowboys (especially under Landry) always fought hard even when outmatched on paper, never gave up, and often managed to pull off improbable upsets and stay in contention longer than the experts believed they would. That’s why Dallas has so many more wins and winning seasons than Pittsburgh. They’ve been gutty and heroic enough to sustain success. As usual, the truth is the opposite of your claim.

    “Because the Steelers were a poor team.”

    Then they shouldn’t have so many HoFers compared to the Cowboys, including several from those “poor” years alone who never won a SB. The Cowboys weren’t “poor” in large part because they had Chuck Howley.

    “No first round picks? Nonsense. Landry built the Cowboys with Bob Lilly. ‘

    No, you idiot, Lilly wasn’t picked until their second season. Dallas had NO picks in the regular draft prior to the 1960 season because the timing of their expansion approval. I just explained this to you, you ignorant dimwit. To field a somewhat competitive team that first year they even had to trade some of their future picks for the rights to a couple of good rookies like Don Perkins and Don Meredith.

    Dallas wasn’t expected to do anything at first. The amazing thing is that they somehow managed to tie New York in 1960. The Giants were embarrassed. Then they surprised people in 1961 by opening the season with two straight wins. The second one was over the expansion Vikings. The first was in the season opener against….wait for it…the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers were especially humiliated to suffer the first loss ever inflicted by the Dallas Cowboys. That’s partly why I said beating the Steelers is a Cowboys tradition.

    The bottom line is that despite those early obstacles Landry built a team that posted 20 consecutive winning seasons, a record no one else has matched (certainly not Tamp Bay, LOL!). You really have no point. You’re desperate and flailing.

    The rest of your post just repeated already debunked lies and claims while mostly ignoring my pertinent questions and facts. It just underscores how thoroughly I’ve kicked your ass here.

    The Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They have a winning head to head record against the Steelers and whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade. No wonder you’re so butthurt and obsessively resentful. 🙂

    We’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  30. Scott Remington
    May 30, 2018
    Reply

    Rasputin is definitely losing it:

    “The Cowboys beat the Steelers in 1972 without Roger Staubach AT OAKLAND to boot, you whiny loser. LMFAO!!” The game was in Dallas, not Oakland. What the hell were you thinking about? Also, “The Cowboys beat the Steelers without Roger Staubach…” When did Staubach ever cause the Steelers problems? What was Staubach’s record starting against the Steelers? MASSIVE epic fail AND faceplant for Rasputin…LOL!!! “That’s partly why I said beating the Steelers is a Cowboys tradition.” Did Roger get the memo? LMAO!!! How about Drew Pearson? LOL!!!

    “The first (victory) was in the (1961) season opener against….wait for it…the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers were especially humiliated to suffer the first loss ever inflicted by the Dallas Cowboys.”

    In the afterglow of the Steelers 37-7 beatdown of the Cowboys later that season and the total domination of the Cowboys during their Super Bowl run of 1974-79, I’d say Pittsburgh got over it.

    Dallas, meanwhile, continues to this day to cry about how “devastating (word of Drew Pearson, Staubach, Charlie Waters, Cliff Harris, Jackie Smith, Harvey Martin…The list is VERRRRRYYY long)” those Super Bowl losses STILL are to them. And to you, Rasputin, and the rest of the Cowboys’ fanbase who continue to whine, make excuses, have nightmares and talk in hypotheticals (e.g., “If jackie Smith had caught that pass,” “If Randy White hadn’t fumbled,” “If the officials had penalized/ejected Jack Lambert,” “That pass interference against Lynn Swann,” “They were beating up our guys in Super Bowl X,” wah, wah, wah…I’ve heard this belly-aching from Cowboys fans for decades now.) Why can’t you all be mature about it and admit and say Pittsburgh was simply a far superior team that Dallas went 0-5 against during that whole period?

    The Super Bowl ’70s Steelers are STILL in your nightmares, Rasputin. I know this for several reasons, most notably because:

    A. You brought your sorry ass to this STEELERS post and made your self–a still butt-hurt Cowboys fan–the first to comment.

    B. Constant meltdowns, resulting in your ignorantly and irrationally calling Swann and Stallworth “overrated.”

    C. Can’t even bring yourself to even write the Super Bowl X yardage Swann gained against the Cliff Harris-led secondary.

    Rasputin is also a liar or has poor reading comprehension skills:
    “Scott Remington believes the 2017 Browns (0-16) had a better season than the 2017 Patriots (13-3) because the Patriots lost the Super Bowl while the Browns managed to avoid that fate. This tells anyone reading this all one needs to know about Scott. You see 2017 caused New England’s SB winning percentage to decline while the Browns’ remained unaltered, which in Remington’s book is advantage Browns.” Wrong.

    I would rather be the ’07 Giants than the ’07 Patriots. Do you get the picture now, dumbass? The Patriots had the better REGULAR season record, the Conference Title and LOST the Super Bowl. Just like Dallas did multiple times during Landry’s era. Who had the better season, the ’07 Patriots or the ’07 Giants, dummy? I go with the one who took home the Lombardi (notice it’s not called Landry) Trophy to close the season. And who did those ’07 Giants beat on their way to winning the Super Bowl…IN DALLAS, not Oakland…Wait for it…How ’bout them Cowboys?!?!? LMAO!!! Were the Giants not allowed the victory because it was a “four-point squeaker,” dummy? LOL!!!

    Why are these simple questions so hard for you to answer? Are you too dumb? Or just too scared? LMAO!!!

    Once again…

    Now the questions you continue to cowardly avoid…like Cliff Harris cowardly avoided Jack Lambert:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?**
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?**
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?**
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?**
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?**
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?**
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?**

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

    **–Rasputin: Crickets

    • Rasputin
      May 30, 2018
      Reply

      Wrong, Scott Remington, you can’t weasel out of this. Roethlisberger and Staubach never played head to head in a Super Bowl, you lying dimwit. You claimed it’s better to have Roethlisberger’s 2-1 SB record than Staubach’s 2-2 record because Roethlisberger’s SB winning percentage is higher, even though that’s only because he failed to make it to as many Super Bowls as Staubach did. After all, it’s “Basic math, dummy”. LOL!

      If Roethlisberger’s 2012 season (8-8, no playoffs) is preferable to Staubach’s 1978 season (12-4, SB appearance), which is what you’re stupidly arguing, then by your own logic the 2017 Browns (0-16) had a preferable season to the 2017 Patriots (13-3) for the same reason, as did every other team but the champion Eagles. You believe the 2017 Steelers had a better season than the 2017 Patriots because the Steelers lost in the divisional round instead of the Super Bowl, thus keeping their SB winning percentage unaltered while the Patriots’ worsened.

      Starting to see the flaws in your argument, LOL? Since you didn’t finish high school maybe you don’t, but even if you did you’ll likely just keep stubbornly doubling down, unwilling to admit you messed up. This faceplant shows that you’re both a moron and a coward since you’d rather not make the Super Bowl than risk losing one.

      “The game was in Dallas, not Oakland. What the hell were you thinking about?…MASSIVE epic fail AND faceplant for Rasputin…LOL!!!”

      A harmless typo borne from habit because I got used to arguing with Raiders fan Joseph Wright and you’ve been repeating much of the garbage he spewed word for word. I had in mind both the games against the Raiders in 74 and 80, which were in Oakland. If I had proofread it I would have caught the minor error and corrected it like I did the 5 year/6 year thing above in the previous post.

      You’re REALLY desperate if you’re trying to characterize that short little clause that wasn’t even central to the sentence let alone the paragraph as a “MASSIVE epic fail AND faceplant”, LMFAO! I know you’re getting your ass kicked handily, Scott, and you’re looking for something….anything….to gain some traction, but that’s just sad. Heck, if you did that you’d probably double down on it insisting the game WAS in Oakland like you have on your many, MANY mistakes, LOL.

      You’re arguing that it’s more impressive to not even make it to a Super Bowl than to make it and lose. Step back a moment and think about that. That’s a deep failure of intelligence on multiple levels, not some little careless couple of words.

      “Also, “The Cowboys beat the Steelers without Roger Staubach…” When did Staubach ever cause the Steelers problems?”

      Craig Morton QBd Dallas that day so are you saying HE caused Pittsburgh problems? The guy whose 1977 season you stupidly insulted and dismissed? Well he and his Broncos did trash the Steelers twice that year so I guess he caused Pittsburgh lots of problems, LOL.

      Of course the Steelers players who had to face Staubach and admitted to being gassed and nervous at the end of both of those SBs that went down to the wire think Staubach caused them problems, with Lambert and others praising the guy. So you don’t speak for them with your childishly ignorant armchair comments.

      And Cliff Harris of all people intercepted Bradshaw when the Cowboys beat the Steelers in that 1972 game.

      “Why can’t you all be mature about it and admit and say Pittsburgh was simply a far superior team that Dallas went 0-5 against during that whole period?”

      Do you admit that Oakland was a far superior team to the Steelers since the Raiders went 6-0 against Pittsburgh from 1976-1983, LOL? That wipes out your two “best” years.

      The rest of your post just repeats already debunked material while mostly dodging my pertinent questions and arguments like the cowardly liar you’ve shown yourself to be. It’s more proof I’ve thoroughly kicked your ass all over this site.

      The Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They have a winning head to head record against the Steelers and whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade. No wonder you’re so butthurt and obsessively resentful. 🙂

      We’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  31. Scott Remington
    June 1, 2018
    Reply

    “‘Why can’t you all be mature about it and admit and say Pittsburgh was simply a far superior team that Dallas went 0-5 against during that whole period?’

    Do you admit that Oakland was a far superior team to the Steelers since the Raiders went 6-0 against Pittsburgh from 1976-1983, LOL? That wipes out your two “best” years.'”

    See? Exactly what I’ve been talking about. Answering a question with a question is simply a diversionary tactic because:

    1) The Super Bowl ’70s Steelers’ time was 1974-79. You stretched the era to 1983. And HAD to use the record of another team, NOT the Landry Cowboys. The Raiders were a far tougher matchup for the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers because they won games within the matchups of that era. The Cowboys got nothing from those ’74-’79 Pittsburgh matchups but beatings (Staubach, Golden Richards, Jean Fugett, Drew Pearson) and devastation. If you’re going to stretch it into the ’80s, Rasputin, the Steelers beat the Cowboys two out of three there and Landry was done. Only a liar and butt-hurt Cowboy fan would cut off the ’74 and ’75 seasons and deceptively expand the era to ’83. Here is the telling statistic: 1974-83–Steelers 4 World titles; Raiders 3 world titles; Cowboys one–LMAO!!! Because I’m not a liar like you, Rasputin, I’ll add ’71. STILL a telling statistic: Steelers 4 world titles; Raiders 3 world titles; Landry’s Cowboys 2–LMAO!!! STILL bringing up the REAR! LOL!!! And as of TODAY, the Cowboys (five world titles) are STILL are looking up to the Steelers (SIX world titles).

    2) You STILL have the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers in your nightmares because you refuse to acknowledge the reality that the Landry Cowboys always lost to them and were exposed by Pittsburgh as a “paper champion.” The regular season success of Landry’s Cowboys in the ’70s is weak in comparison to the Steelers SUPER BOWL success. Were the ’07 and ’11 Patriots better than the Giants of those same years? After all, the Patriots had all the REGULAR season success, right Rasputin? Regular season success simply gets you into the playoffs. Winning Super Bowls separates teams from the pack.

    3) Craig Morton beat the Steelers twice in that fluky 1977 season. Did he ever beat them again in a Bronco uniform? They kicked his ass the rest of the seasons that they matched up.

    4) Love the way you deceptively try to cover the fact that the Steelers swept the Cowboys in the first decade of the 21st century–AND won two Super Bowls. Eighteen years and still no signature Cowboy moments in the 21st century.

    I’ve answered your “pertinent” questions. You don’t have the courage to answer mine, apparently. Which only means yet another win for me.

    Once again…

    Now the questions you continue to cowardly avoid…like Cliff Harris cowardly avoided Jack Lambert:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?**
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?**
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?**
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?**
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?**
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?**
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?**

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

    **–Rasputin: Crickets

  32. Rasputin
    June 1, 2018
    Reply

    Scott Remington believes the Patriots had the worst season in the NFL in 2017 because they were the only team whose “Super Bowl winning percentage” declined. He says it’s, “Basic math, dummy.” LMFAO! This tells anyone reading this everything one needs to know about Remington, both his idiocy and his cowardice. And now he’s completely avoiding this topic hoping I’ll stop talking about it.

    Tough luck. I’ll keep humiliating you over this deep failure of intelligence on multiple levels until you retract your argument (which you spent posts doubling down on) that a 2-1 Super Bowl record is somehow better than a 2-2 Super Bowl record. Keep in mind that winning percentages are typically only relevant when the teams have played the same number of games.

    “Were the ’07 and ’11 Patriots better than the Giants of those same years?”

    No, but the Patriots weren’t worse than the Steelers and other teams that failed to make the Super Bowls those years, moron, which is what you’ve been arguing.

    I love this sentence:

    “Craig Morton beat the Steelers twice in that fluky 1977 season.”

    LOL! So now MULTIPLE DOUBLE DIGIT BEAT DOWNS in the same season are “fluky” in your book, hypocrite. Morton’s Broncos pounded the Steelers 21-7 in the regular season and proved it was no fluke by doing it again 34-21 in the playoffs. Things change from season to season but that year the Denver Broncos had a truly great team. All the right variables clicked into place. They beat every team they played except for the Dallas Cowboys, whose 77 team is in the argument for greatest of all time.

    Craig Morton went 6-3 against the Steelers in his career, so by your own logic he caused Pittsburgh a lot of problems.

    “Answering a question with a question is simply a diversionary tactic”

    Or it elegantly illustrates the flaws in your loaded questions, you lying hypocrite.

    “The Super Bowl ’70s Steelers’ time was 1974-79. You stretched the era to 1983. And HAD to use the record of another team, NOT the Landry Cowboys.”

    So? That time period covers two Steeler Super Bowl wins and the time when the franchise was supposedly at its height. I know you didn’t finish high school, Scott, but what does it matter whether the team you completely failed to beat during ITS Super Bowl era (the Raiders), an era which overlapped with the height of Pittsburgh’s glory period, happens to be the team I root for or not? You’re like a grade schooler who barely understand the words coming out of your own mouth.

    Keep in mind that I’m not the one arguing that some scattershot games against a single cherry-picked team is necessarily definitive in judging a dynasty’s greatness, but by your own logic the Raiders’ success against the Steelers greatly diminishes Pittsburgh’s greatness. You can’t have it both ways, hypocrite.

    “Only a liar and butt-hurt Cowboy fan would cut off the ’74 and ’75 seasons”

    You constantly drop off and ignore the early 70s Cowboys success with your “Super Bowl Steelers” comparison, you lying hypocrite. LMFAO! When I point out that the late 60s/early 70s Cowboys beat the Steelers 7 games in a row (running through the end of Chuck Howley’s career), like a craven chicken you flee that fact by crying that Pittsburgh was a bad team then so it somehow doesn’t count. Alright. But the Miami Dolphins were the other truly great team of the early 70s, not the Steelers, and the Cowboys totally crushed them 24-3 in SB VI. You’ve failed to appreciate that fact throughout this debate and it totally obliterates your ignorant argument that the Landry Cowboys could supposedly never beat the best team of an era.

    “Love the way you deceptively try to cover the fact that the Steelers swept the Cowboys in the first decade of the 21st century”

    No deception or cover up on my part. But we’ve been in the second decade for a long time now and so far the Cowboys have swept the Steelers THIS decade, a fact that’s giving you nightmares….along with those memories of SB XXX. 🙂

    BOOM!!

    The rest of your post just repeats already debunked material while mostly dodging my pertinent questions and arguments like the cowardly liar you’ve shown yourself to be. It’s more proof I’ve thoroughly kicked your ass all over this site.

    The Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They have a winning head to head record against the Steelers and whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade. No wonder you’re so butthurt and obsessively resentful.

    We’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  33. Scott Remington
    June 1, 2018
    Reply

    “‘Scott Remington believes the Patriots had the worst season in the NFL in 2017 because they were the only team whose “Super Bowl winning percentage” declined (Totally lying. I never said that). He says it’s, “Basic math, dummy.” LMFAO! This tells anyone reading this everything one needs to know about Remington, both his idiocy and his cowardice. And now he’s completely avoiding this topic hoping I’ll stop talking about it. (Keep talking about it. It shows how desperate a liar you are, Rasputin.)

    Tough luck. I’ll keep humiliating you over this deep failure of intelligence on multiple levels until you retract your argument, which you spent posts doubling down on, that a 2-1 Super Bowl record is somehow better than a 2-2 Super Bowl record (Why should I retract it? Two out of three IS better than two out of four…basic math, dummy). Keep in mind that winning percentages are typically only relevant when the teams have played the same number of games (Wonder what butt-hurt Cowboy fan invented THAT criteria?).

    “Were the ’07 and ’11 Patriots better than the Giants of those same years?”

    Rasputin: “No.” Thank you very much. My point exactly. Now…

    It is quite obvious that your flea-sized, noncollege educated brain understands that the team (1974-79 Pittsburgh) that wins the world title is better than a team who had the better REGULAR SEASON record (Landry’s ’70s Cowboys). Especially if they played head-to-head and the results in world titles is one-sided. So there is absolutely no comparison between the ’70s Steelers and the ’70s Cowboys.

    On other fronts, the fact of the matter is, Roethlisberger DOES have a better SB winning percentage than Staubach AND he won his two world titles over a span of four years. I took Staubach seven years to finally get his second one. So Ben’s accumulation rate in attaining multiple world titles is also better.

    “‘Pittsburgh was a bad team then so it somehow doesn’t count. Alright (Thank you. You don’t see Steelers fans crowing over the ’61 smashing of the Cowboys or the ’76 mauling of Tampa Bay, do you? We’d sound like…Rasputin). But the Miami Dolphins were the other truly great team of the early 70s, not the Steelers (the decade was young, and Noll was still building. It’s called the “early” 70s for a reason, dumbass) and the Cowboys totally crushed them 24-3 in SB VI.'” Yeah, the Cowboys crushed a team featuring a game manager at QB and didn’t win another Super Bowl for six years. They foolishly traded their bread-and-butter feature back (Duane Thomas–of course he didn’t fair well. He was on crappy teams) and Pittsburgh cruised by them to join the Dolphins and Lombardi’s Packers (remember them trashing Landry’s Cowboys Super Bowl dreams…Like Jack Lambert trashing Cliff Harris?…LOL!!!) as the only teams to that point to win two Super Bowls–as a result of Super Bowl X. Against Dallas.

    “’Love the way you deceptively try to cover the fact that the Steelers swept the Cowboys in the first decade of the 21st century’…

    “‘No deception or cover up on my part. But we’ve been in the second decade for a long time now…'” Hold up. And just how many Super Bowls have the Cowboys won in THIS century? How many have they even been to in THIS century (we all know how much you LOVE those CONFERENCE championships)? Have the Cowboys ever been to a Super Bowl this decade? Here’s where I clinch another easy win over Rasputin. Why prolong the agony?

    Once again…

    Now the questions you continue to cowardly avoid…like Cliff Harris cowardly avoided Jack Lambert:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?**
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?**
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?**
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?**
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?**
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?**
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?**

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

    **–Rasputin: Crickets

  34. Scott Remington
    June 1, 2018
    Reply

    Rasputin: “Keep in mind that winning percentages are typically only relevant when the teams have played the same number of games.”

    Good to read that. So, who had the better winning percentage when Noll’s Steelers matched up against Landry’s Cowboys head-to-head? Entertain us with your lies about these outcomes. Or will you be diversionary and answer this simple question with another question? Will you run behind the Raiders skirt? How about constricting the diversion to ’77 and run behind Craig Morton’s fluky ’77 Broncos (what were the individual and collective scores of Morton’s LAST THREE games vs. the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers)?

    The Super Bowl ’70s Steelers were superior to the Landry Cowboys. And the Steelers franchise is superior (SIX world titles) to the Cowboys franchise (five world titles).

    • Rasputin
      June 1, 2018
      Reply

      Your contrived cherry-picking aside, the Cowboys have a winning head to head record against the Steelers overall. Period. But I’m flattered that you’re trying to imitate the “skirt” line I used more aptly against you earlier.

      The Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade. No wonder Dallas haunts your nightmares.

      We’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  35. Rasputin
    June 1, 2018
    Reply

    Me: “Scott Remington believes the Patriots had the worst season in the NFL in 2017 because they were the only team whose “Super Bowl winning percentage” declined”

    You: “Totally lying. I never said that”

    I’m not lying. That’s the logical extension of your claims, moron. You believe that the Steelers had a better season in 2017 than the Patriots did because the Patriots lost in the Super Bowl while PIttsburgh lost in the divisional round to the Jaguars (LOL!), preserving the Steelers’ “Super Bowl winning percentage”. That’s EXACTLY the same logic you’re using to claim that a 2-1 SB record is somehow better than a 2-2 SB record. This illustrates that you’re a moron, a coward, and a loser, and I’ll have fun tormenting you with this at least until you finally admit you were wrong, and maybe longer than that.

    For you’re now you’re STILL doubling down on your idiocy.

    “Two out of three IS better than two out of four…basic math, dummy)”

    LMFAO!!!! Except that you forgot 4 is better than 3. You’re saying it’s better for a team to fail to make it to the Super Bowl, even if they go 0-16, than to win the conference championship and lose the SB. You suck at math, logic, and life, Scott Remington. Maybe if you had finished high school you wouldn’t persist in this spectacular faceplant.

    “Roethlisberger DOES have a better SB winning percentage than Staubach”

    Only because Roethlisberger failed to make it to as many Super Bowls as Staubach did, you drooling moron. He hasn’t won more SBs than Staubach. And while Roethlisberger’s were relatively close and controversial (an official literally apologized for screwing the opposing Seahawks a few years later), Staubach’s two wins were in crushing fashion.

    “So there is absolutely no comparison between the ’70s Steelers and the ’70s Cowboys.”

    Which part of the 70s? The part where Dallas was still beating the Steelers 7 games in a row? And how about between the 70s Steelers and 70s Raiders, LOL? The Raiders won most of their games against the Steelers that decade and the “SB Raiders” won ALL their games against the Steelers (6-0) from 1976-1983. Why couldn’t the Steelers ever beat the “Super Bowl Raiders”, Scott, LOL? The Cowboys beat the SB Raiders.

    “Yeah, the Cowboys crushed a team featuring a game manager at QB and didn’t win another Super Bowl for six years.”

    That “game manager” made 8 Pro Bowls, is a HoFer, and was surrounded by other HoFers. The Dolphins went undefeated the very next season (only team to ever do that) and won another SB the year after that playing in their 3rd consecutive SB (a feat Pittsburgh never accomplished).

    Miami went undefeated against Pittsburgh over the first half of the decade and posted a winning record against the Steelers overall in the 1970s.

    The Dolphins were better than the Steelers over the first half of the 70s. Period. And the 1971 Cowboys crushed Miami 24-3 in the Super Bowl.

    You’ve lost, Scott. You’ve been proved wrong on every line of argument.

    “They foolishly traded their bread-and-butter feature back (Duane Thomas–of course he didn’t fair well. He was on crappy teams)”

    He kept getting kicked off those teams because he was a flake, you idiot. And Dallas, like many teams then, ran with a committee. They didn’t have a “bread-and-butter feature back”. Calvin Hill was better than Duane Thomas anyway. In the 1972 game against the Steelers Hill put up 108 yards on 23 carries (4.7 y/c). Walt Garrison contributed 76 yards on 12 carries (6.3 y/c). Not that you even had a point.

    Dallas didn’t repeat in 1972 because Staubach got hurt in the pre season and didn’t play all year until he was inserted near the end of the playoff game against the 49ers and led that dramatic comeback win. He wasn’t exactly 100% against the Redskins in the conference championship though. By 73 many of their greatest players from the 1960s were nearing the end and about to retire. That was far more relevant than parting ways with a troubled RB who had ceased to be of use to anyone anyway.

    And they still beat the Steelers in 1972 even without Staubach, LOL. Like I said, beating Pittsburgh is an old Cowboys tradition that dates back to Dallas’ first ever franchise win, a tradition they’ve gotten back to in this era.

    “Pittsburgh cruised by them to join the Dolphins and Lombardi’s Packers… as the only teams to that point to win two Super Bowls–as a result of Super Bowl X. Against Dallas.”

    When Dallas was a wildcard team that was rebuilding after a lot of their great players had retired and they weren’t expected to even make the playoffs…..by 4 points in a game the Cowboys led most of the way. Great accomplishment. Want a cookie? A couple of years later the Cowboys joined that list of 2 SB winning teams by annihilating a Broncos team that had just pounded the Steelers TWICE by double digits.

    So what if Pittsburgh won a regular season game that year? You keep saying regular season games don’t matter. Dallas had a lull in the middle of the season and had lost to the Cardinals the week before the game against the Steelers. Does that mean the Cardinals were better than the Cowboys? Were the Cowboys better than the Raiders when they beat eventual SB champion Oakland in 1980 (something the Steelers never managed to do; they lost 45-34 to the Raiders at Pittsburgh that year)? Were all those teams I listed that beat the Steelers in their SB years better than Pittsburgh? Dallas lost those two games back to back and then snapped out of that funk to storm through the rest of the season and destroy their playoff opposition from both conferences. The Cowboys were awesome in the postseason. They would have beaten any team you put in front of them that Super Bowl, including the Steelers.

    “Have the Cowboys ever been to a Super Bowl this decade?”

    The century is young (by century standards). Guess for now I’ll just have to settle for beating the Steelers over and over again so far this decade. 🙂

    And occasionally rewatching the most recent head to head Super Bowl, SB XXX.

    BOOM!!!!

    LOL.

    The rest of your post just repeats already debunked material while mostly dodging my pertinent questions and arguments like the cowardly liar you’ve shown yourself to be. It’s more proof I’ve thoroughly kicked your ass all over this site.

  36. Scott Remington
    June 1, 2018
    Reply

    “I’m not lying. That’s the logical extension of your claims.” No, that’s the ignorant (Ignorance and Rasputin in the same sentence…What a shock) extension of your claim. In every season’s conclusion, there will be only one team holding up the Lombardi (NOT Landry) Trophy. The Pittsburgh Steelers have done this more than any other franchise. Is that not true?

    “The same logic you’re using to claim that a 2-1 SB record is somehow better than a 2-2 SB record. This illustrates that you’re a moron, a coward, and a loser, and I’ll have fun tormenting you with this at least until you finally admit you were wrong, and maybe longer than that.” Two out of three is better than two out of four. It’s basic math, dummy. I’m not “tormented” at all. Take it up with ANY mathematician in the world. Your ignorance is profound, Rasputin.

    “LMFAO!!!! Except that you forgot 4 is better than 3.” Nope. I have never forgot that four (’70s Steelers’ world titles) is better than three (’90s Cowboys world titles,) Would you care to dispute that? After all, you wrote “4 is better than 3.”

    “You’re saying it’s better for a team to fail to make it to the Super Bowl, even if they go 0-16, than to win the conference championship and lose the SB.” Quit frothing at the mouth and calm down, numbskull. The ending of both seasons is disappointing. But for you to brag about a conference title followed by a Super Bowl loss and saying that is “better” than a Super Bowl win is stupid.

    Rasputin continued to lose it…

    “‘Roethlisberger (2-1) DOES have a better SB winning percentage than Staubach (2-2)’”

    Rasputin: “Only because Roethlisberger (2-1) failed to make it to as many Super Bowls as Staubach (2-2) did, you drooling moron. He hasn’t won more SBs than Staubach.” You know, stupid, you could put Staubach’s name in Rothlisberger’s spot and put John Elway in Staubach’s spot in the same comparison. Try to keep up, dummy:

    Staubach (2-2) has a better Super Bowl winning percentage than Elway (2-3). Is Elway better than Staubach because he took the Broncos to more Super Bowl appearances (5) than Roger did with the Cowboys (4)? Staubach didn’t win more SBs than Elway. Right? So, going with your reasoning, which is it? Who (Ben, Elway) was better than Staubach in SB competition and who (Ben, Elway) was Staubach better than? You’ll end up throwing good ol’ Roger under the bus either way, dumbass. This answer is something I’ve gotta see…LOL!!!

    The ignorance and hypocrisy of Rasputin continued:

    “…there is absolutely no comparison between the ’70s Steelers and the ’70s Cowboys.”

    “Which part of the 70s? The part where Dallas was still beating the Steelers 7 games in a row? And how about between the 70s Steelers and 70s Raiders, LOL? The Raiders won most of their games against the Steelers that decade and the “SB Raiders” won ALL their games against the Steelers (6-0) from 1976-1983. Why couldn’t the Steelers ever beat the “Super Bowl Raiders”, Scott, LOL? The Cowboys beat the SB Raiders.

    Some facts:
    A. The Cowboys beat the Steelers one time in the ’70s. That was ’72 and Swann, Stallworth, and Lambert were all still in college. The Cowboys could bully the Steelers when the Steelers were a flawed team (no big play threats–Swann and Stallworth; No one to set stiffs like Cliff Harris straight–Lambert). Once they were fully assembled, they whipped the Cowboys every time they played them.

    B. What about the ’70s Steelers and the ’70s Raiders? In playoff competition, the Steelers held the advantage 3-2. That would include a 2-1 edge in conference title games. So now you’re on the Raiders bandwagon (how desperate is THAT?) to find someone–anyone–who beat the Steelers multiple times in the ’70s (because we all know Landry’s Cowboys didn’t, LOL!!!). The Raiders were a far tougher opponent than the Cowboys were for the Steelers. When the ’70s ended the count read like this: Steelers-four world titles; Raiders-one world title. Does that answer your question on how they both made out in the ’70s, dumbass? It is key to note that the Cowboys collective ’70s record vs. the Steelers and Raiders was 1-5. And the lone victory was BEFORE Swann, Stallworth, and Jack Lambert were on the Pittsburgh roster.

    C. Of course, in your desperate Raider copulation, you had to extend the era to ’83. Let’s include Landry’s Cowboys in this. From 1971-83, the world title count looked like this: Steelers–FOUR; Raiders–three; Cowboys–two. There are the “great” Cowboys, taking up the REAR! LMAO!!!

    D. “The Dolphins went undefeated the very next season (only team to ever do that) and won another SB the year after that playing in their 3rd consecutive SB (a feat Pittsburgh never accomplished). ” Too bad they finished with only half the Steelers world title total. The Steelers were undefeated in ’70s Super Bowl appearences. A feat Miami never accomplished. Nor the Landry Cowboys. Some Rasputin (and Cowboys) nightmares named Swann, Stallworth, and Lambert joined the forces of Noll, Greene, Bradshaw, and Co. to make that happen.

    “Miami went undefeated against Pittsburgh over the first half of the decade (You mean BEFORE Swann, Stallworth, and Lambert joined the team?) and posted a winning record against the Steelers overall in the 1970s.” How did the Super Bowl trophy count between the teams look overall in the ’70s? You’re stupidly fighting a lost cause.

    “The Dolphins were better than the Steelers over the first half of the 70s.” Never heard of a squad referred to as “Team of the first half of the Decade.” Have you? You’re embarrassing yourself, Rasputin. How was that ride on the Dolphins’ bandwagon?

    Then, Rasputin lost it…Again. What else is new?

    “Calvin Hill was better than Duane Thomas anyway.” How many Super Bowl appearances did Hill spearhead as the Cowboys leading rusher? How many times did Calvin Hill lead the NFL in touchdowns scored? The GREAT backfield combination of Hill and Walt Garrison–after Thomas was stupidly traded (just PAY the man, you dummies)–yielded
    how many Super Bowl appearances? The Cowboys never won another Lombardi (NOT Landry) Trophy until Tony Dorsett showed up–SIX YEARS LATER.

    “…And they still beat the Steelers in 1972 even without Staubach, LOL. Like I said, beating Pittsburgh is an old Cowboys tradition…” Hold up. When did Staubach ever give the Steelers problems and beat them? Did Staubach get the memo about this “tradition?” How about Drew Pearson? Epic Fail, Rasputin. LOL!!! LMAO!!! Don’t give me all this crap about the Steelers “praising” Staubach. The ’60s Celtics praise former Lakers guard Jerry West. When did he ever beat them in the NBA Finals as a player?

    Of course, It wouldn’t have been complete without the usual Landry Cowboys Excuse Making Machine, complete with the Hypothetical Game:

    “So what if Pittsburgh won a regular season (’77; 28-13 pounding on Dallas) game that year? You keep saying regular season games don’t matter.” But you do say they matter, Rasputin. Of course, well…here goes: “Dallas had a lull in the middle of the (’77) season and…” Enough. SMH. “They would have beaten any team you put in front of them that Super Bowl, including the Steelers.” The next season, they had a shot (actually, yet another shot) at the Steelers to 1) Defend their crown 2) Repeat, 3) Become the first team to win three Super Bowls, and 4) Force at least a share of the “Team of the Decade/’70s” title. What happened, Rasputin? And what happened in the regular season rematch of 1979? Three straight years, Landry’s Cowboys had a shot at beating the Steelers and they failed every time. They were paper champions. They did this with Lombardi’s Packers, the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers, and the Montana/Walsh 49ers. All to the tune of 0-13. OH-and-THIRTEEN! All the while lying to us, beaten and defeated, claiming they were the better team. History and the Hall of Famers don’t buy it. The game is played on the field and the Cowboys lost in games that they could have made themselves the Team of the Decade (60s; 70s; 80s). Each time they blew it.

    Why are these simple questions so hard for you to answer? Are you too dumb? Or just too scared? LMAO!!!

    Once again…

    Now the questions you continue to cowardly avoid…like Cliff Harris cowardly avoided Jack Lambert:

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?**
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?**
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?**
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?**
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?**
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?**
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?**

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

    **–Rasputin: Crickets

  37. Rasputin
    June 2, 2018
    Reply

    You’re really melting down now, LMFAO! That was your most panicked and incoherent mess of a post yet.

    Scott Remington believes that the 1980s was a better decade for the Steelers than the 1990s, even though in the 80s they went 77-75 in the regular season and 2-4 in the playoffs while in the 90s they went 93-67 in the regular season and 5-6 in the playoffs, because they lost a Super Bowl in the 1990s, worsening their “Super Bowl Winning Percentage”, while in the 1980s they avoided risking that by failing to make it to the Super Bowl.

    That’s undeniably true according to the logic of his ignorant claim that a 2-1 SB record is somehow better than a 2-2 Super Bowl record. It might be starting to dawn on Scott that he was wrong but the high school drop out still can’t bring himself to admit it. Instead he’s worming around in that cluttered mess of a post desperately trying to change the subject several different ways but failing to make a single valid point. It’s hilarious to watch. This episode clearly illustrates that Scott Remington is a moron, a coward, and a liar. To wit….

    “Two out of three is better than two out of four. It’s basic math, dummy. I’m not “tormented” at all. Take it up with ANY mathematician in the world. Your ignorance is profound, Rasputin.”

    LMFAO!! See? You’re wrong, Scott. Identify which one of Roethlisberger’s non SB seasons was more impressive than that extra conference championship season Staubach had. Was it last year when he lost in the divisional round? Or how about when he went 8-8? Every mathematician will tell you that 4 is more than 3.

    Your protestations aside, it seems between the lines that you’re starting to sense something’s wrong with your position. Since you’re really ignorant and slow I’ll generously try to help you finish wrapping your mind around what’s wrong here.

    Start by comparing best versus best: Super Bowl wins. That being equal (2 for both), you compare the next best which in this case are extra conference championships captured by the second number in the records (2 and 1). The “2” means two SB losses. SB wins are better than SB losses. But what that “1” leaves out is that all that player’s (Roethlisberger’s) other seasons were even worse than a SB loss. To even out the total games pick Roethlisberger’s next best season and pit that against Staubach’s extra conference championship year. Failing to win a conference championship is worse than winning one.

    That seems undeniable, but to argue that a SB record of 2-1 is somehow better than a record of 2-2 means disagreeing with that last sentence. Ready to revise your position yet?

    Me: “You’re saying it’s better for a team to fail to make it to the Super Bowl, even if they go 0-16, than to win the conference championship and lose the SB.”

    You: “Quit frothing at the mouth and calm down, numbskull.”

    LOL! Never was there a clearer case of projection. I’m perfectly calm. You’re the one foaming at the mouth and spewing irrational nonsense.

    “The ending of both seasons is disappointing. But for you to brag about a conference title followed by a Super Bowl loss and saying that is “better” than a Super Bowl win is stupid.”

    I never said that, you lying moron. I said winning a conference championship and losing the Super Bowl is more impressive than losing and not even winning a conference championship.

    “Staubach (2-2) has a better Super Bowl winning percentage than Elway (2-3). Is Elway better than Staubach because he took the Broncos to more Super Bowl appearances (5) than Roger did with the Cowboys (4)? Staubach didn’t win more SBs than Elway. Right? So, going with your reasoning, which is it? Who (Ben, Elway) was better than Staubach in SB competition and who (Ben, Elway) was Staubach better than? You’ll end up throwing good ol’ Roger under the bus either way, dumbass. This answer is something I’ve gotta see…LOL!!!”

    You’re increasingly arguing with yourself. Elway’s 2-3 SB record is more impressive per se than Staubach’s 2-2 record and I never said otherwise. But I’m not the one who stupidly claimed that these records necessarily mean one QB was better than another or even performed better in the SB. That was apparently what you were trying to argue but you were clumsy and faceplanted because you suck at math and basic logic. Staubach was better in the Super Bowls than Elway because he performed better in them. Elway wasn’t really THAT great even in the ones he won. Elway made more Super Bowls because he had a much longer career.

    Elway posted a career SB passer rating of 59.3, which was abysmal especially given the stat inflated era in which he played. His passer rating never reached 100 in any of his SBs. He threw 3 TDs and 8 INTs. He only completed 50% of his passes.

    By contrast Roger posted a career SB passer rating of 95.4. He threw 8 TDs and 4 INTs while completing 62.2% of his passes. He had passer ratings of over 100 in 3 of his 4 SBs. Those numbers are amazing given that he played in the 1970s, the only decade in NFL history to see passing stats deflate rather than inflate from the previous decade.

    Ben Roethlisberger’s stats are arguably even worse than Elway’s given the extremely stat inflated era he’s gotten to play in. Ben’s career SB passer rating is a dismal 69.9. He’s thrown only 3 TDs and 5 INTs while completing 60.4% of his passes. Like Elway he’s never posted a 100+ SB passer rating.

    “The Cowboys beat the Steelers one time in the ’70s. That was ’72 and Swann, Stallworth, and Lambert were all still in college. The Cowboys could bully the Steelers when the Steelers were a flawed team (no big play threats–Swann and Stallworth; No one to set stiffs like Cliff Harris straight–Lambert). Once they were fully assembled, they whipped the Cowboys every time they played them.”

    72 was the only time the Cowboys played the Steelers in the first half of the 1970s or else they would have beaten them more. As it was that was part of that 7 game winning streak against Pittsburgh. And the Steelers were good enough that year that they went 11-3 and made it to the AFC Championship. Dallas was only 10-4 and was missing Roger Staubach. So your excuses (remember when you were projecting about the “excuse machine” earlier?) fall flat around your dishonesty. If anything the Steelers were the bully and the Cowboys punched them in the mouth, flattening them.

    You claim the Steelers lost because they didn’t yet have Swann, Lambert (who didn’t do anything but act like a punk by pulling down the decade’s best FS from behind, not attacking him face to face), or Stallworth. The easy counterpoint is that the Steelers kept losing until Lilly, Howley, Hayes, Andrie, and other great old Cowboys retired. We’ve already been through this. Yawn.

    “What about the ’70s Steelers and the ’70s Raiders? In playoff competition, the Steelers held the advantage 3-2.”

    But by your logic the Raiders weren’t “fully assembled” yet when the Steelers beat them, LMFAO! Once the SUPER BOWL Raiders were completely built by their first championship season in 1976 the Steelers NEVER beat them. The Raiders whipped the vaunted Steelers all 6 games they played through the end of the Raiders’ Super Bowl run in 1983. That’s almost as many times as the Landry Cowboys whipped the Steelers in the 1960s through the early 1970s.

    “So now you’re on the Raiders bandwagon (how desperate is THAT?) to find someone–anyone–who beat the Steelers multiple times in the ’70s”

    Actually the first and only two other teams I checked both posted winning records against the Steelers in the 1970s, LOL! That “bandwagon” comment is hilarious considering all the shilling you did for the Packers and 49ers to try and argue against the Cowboys’ greatness. You HAD to go to multiple teams to find worthy opponents for the Landry Cowboys since the pitiful Steelers only had that one short 6 year run during the 20th Century, LMFAO. No one sustained Landry’s elite success. And I’m on no one’s “bandwagon”, you hypocritical moron. I’m just posting facts and destroying you on your own terms with your own insipid arguments.

    “The Raiders were a far tougher opponent than the Cowboys were for the Steelers.”

    Is that why the Steelers couldn’t beat the SB Raiders even once while the Cowboys beat Oakland at Oakland in the Raiders’ SB season of 1980? Are you claiming it was a matchup thing?

    You didn’t answer the question: Does that victory prove the 1980 Cowboys were better than the 1980 Raiders?

    “Of course, in your desperate Raider copulation, you had to extend the era to ’83.”

    Ha Ha you’re getting increasingly profane during your meltdown (if incoherent; just slapping the words “Raider” and “copulation” together doesn’t mean anything; you should have fleshed your sick insult out with more words). And that’s rich coming from someone who’s been constantly comparing the Landry Cowboys to the SB Steelers of “1974-1979”. Why are you afraid to compare the Steelers to the SB Raiders of 1976-1983?

    Is it because you realize that your arguments, already refuted for various other reasons, collapse even more spectacularly when they’re turned directly against you? 🙂

    Me: “The Dolphins went undefeated the very next season (only team to ever do that) and won another SB the year after that playing in their 3rd consecutive SB (a feat Pittsburgh never accomplished)….Miami went undefeated against Pittsburgh over the first half of the decade and posted a winning record against the Steelers overall in the 1970s. The Dolphins were better than the Steelers over the first half of the 70s. Period.”

    You: “How did the Super Bowl trophy count between the teams look overall in the ’70s?”

    Who cares? The Dolphins won 2 SBs to the Steelers’ 1 in the first half of the decade, from 1970-1974. You falsely claimed before that the Landry Cowboys never beat the best competition. ONE of the facts debunking that is Dallas utterly destroying Miami, who won the most SBs in that era, in SB VI.

    “Never heard of a squad referred to as “Team of the first half of the Decade.” Have you?”

    You realize a decade is just an arbitrary, not very meaningful calendar demarcation don’t you? Hey, you’re the one who’s been claiming the Steelers pre 1974 weren’t even the real Steelers, LOL. So maybe Pittsburgh SHOULD be called the “Team of the Second Half of the Decade.”

    That’d be better since the Dolphins and Raiders both posted winning overall records against the Steelers in the 1970s anyway, and the Cowboys won the most games.

    “The Steelers were undefeated in ’70s Super Bowl appearences. A feat Miami never accomplished.”

    Only because the Cowboys crushed them 24-3, dimwit.

    “How was that ride on the Dolphins’ bandwagon?”

    On the contrary, you idiot, I was pointing out how great and dominant the Dolphins were to underscore how impressive the COWBOYS’ victory over them was. If you had finished high school maybe your reading comprehension and critical thinking ability wouldn’t suck too much for that to have gone careening over your head.

    “You’re stupidly fighting a lost cause.”

    Wrong, halfwit. You were in a lost position from your first post. I’ve just been kicking you around for fun, and to use your posts as props and an excuse to post various facts I wanted to post anyway. So thanks for serving as my punching bag.

    “Then, Rasputin lost it…Again. What else is new? “Calvin Hill was better than Duane Thomas anyway.” How many Super Bowl appearances did Hill spearhead as the Cowboys leading rusher? How many times did Calvin Hill lead the NFL in touchdowns scored?”

    Really, moron? You feel that me saying Hill was better than Thomas is crazy (“losing it”)?

    Calvin Hill made 4 Pro Bowls. Duane Thomas never made a Pro Bowl. Hill was first team All Pro his rookie season (a rare feat) and NFL Rookie of the Year. Thomas never made either. Hill posted two 1,000 yard seasons. Thomas never posted one. Hill led Dallas in rushing 4 years. Thomas did that twice, and more narrowly over the team’s other committee runners.

    I’m on firm, sane ground here.

    “after Thomas was stupidly traded (just PAY the man, you dummies)–yielded how many Super Bowl appearances? The Cowboys never won another Lombardi (NOT Landry) Trophy until Tony Dorsett showed up–SIX YEARS LATER.”

    The Redskins didn’t appear in any Super Bowls with Thomas either, halfwit. He only gained a grand total of 442 yards and scored 5 TDs in his two years at Washington. Thomas was kicked off of every other team who gave him a chance before he played any games. The guy was a flake who derailed his own career and it’s a testament to the strength of that 1971 Cowboys squad that they were able to function despite his antics.

    I already explained to you (though you stupidly ignored it) that the Cowboys not repeating right away had vastly more to do with Staubach’s injury in 1972 and many of their older great players retiring in the seasons after that, hence them missing the playoffs in 1974 (Duane Thomas gained 347 yards for the Redskins that year at 3.7 y/c; wouldn’t have been much help) and being in full rebuilding mode by 1975.

    “The next season, they had a shot”

    If you had played football or at least knew something about it or sports in general you’d know that each season is different. You’d also know that regular season results are often reversed in a playoff rematch. It’s impressive when a team beats another NFL team twice in one season as the Broncos did to the Steelers in the 77 regular season and playoffs, and as the Cowboys did to the Broncos that same year.

    The rest of your post just repeats already debunked material while mostly dodging my pertinent questions and arguments like the cowardly liar you’ve shown yourself to be. It’s more proof I’ve thoroughly kicked your ass all over this site.

    The Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They have a winning head to head record against the Steelers and whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade. No wonder you’re so butthurt and obsessively resentful. Dallas haunts your nightmares.

    We’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  38. Scott Remington
    June 2, 2018
    Reply

    So now, after I’ve further exploited Rasputin, the idiot resorts to out and out lies:

    “Scott Remington believes that the 1980s was a better decade for the Steelers than the 1990s, even though in the 80s they went 77-75 in the regular season and 2-4 in the playoffs while in the 90s they went 93-67 in the regular season and 5-6 in the playoffs, because they lost a Super Bowl in the 1990s, worsening their “Super Bowl Winning Percentage”, while in the 1980s they avoided risking that by failing to make it to the Super Bowl.” Rasputin is simply stupid. His quotes are lies that come from another of his meltdowns. Both decades were essentially the same: Bad QBs (Stoudt, Malone, Brister, O’Donnell) and no Super Bowl trophies. The 2000s of Roethlisberger were much better with two Super Bowls. Have the Cowboys scratched this century, Rasputin? We Steelers fans are about the jewelry (Super Bowl rings) and the hardware (Lombardi Trophies). There’s more in Pittsburgh than there is in Dallas. Right?

    So, you treasure successful regular seasons and conference championships more than world titles. Lombardi, Noll, and Walsh never had that mentality. That’s why they always beat the Landry Cowboys during their respective reigns. So you prefer having the most REGULAR season wins of the ’70s than the most Super Bowl wins? You prefer having the greatest winning percentage in NFL history than having the greatest number of Lombardi Trophies? Are you that stupid?

    I totally destroyed your ignorance about The Raiders “owning” the Steelers in the ’70s (again) and, like the true ignorant coward you are, you failed to admit the mistake. Instead you continue to embrace your ignorance with this gem: “But by your logic the Raiders weren’t “fully assembled” yet when the Steelers beat them, LMFAO!” So you tell me, Mr. All of a Sudden I’m a Raiders Fan, who were the Raiders missing in the three playoff loses that the Steelers put on them in the ’70s? The rosters were essentially the same on both sides throughout those great games and the Steelers got the best of it in the playoffs. The Steelers were even more dominant vs. the Cowboys in the ’70s. The Raiders were always a tougher matchup for Pittsburgh. The Cowboys were light work. Oh, BTW, the “not so fully assembled” Raiders (what a crock you made up, Rasputin. Al Davis’ teams were always loaded) beat the Cowboys in 1974. We’re not buying the built-in “rebuilding” alibi from the Landry Cowboys Excuse Machine. Dallas just simply didn’t get it done in ’74. No team makes the Conference title (’73), then fails to make the playoffs (’74), and then is in the Super Bowl the third year (’75) and the non-playoff year is termed “rebuilding.” Hmmm. Duane Thomas made the playoffs that year–with the Redskins. LOL!!! Speaking of whom…

    “You feel that me saying Hill was better than Thomas is crazy (“losing it”)?

    Calvin Hill made 4 Pro Bowls. Duane Thomas never made a Pro Bowl. Hill was first team All Pro his rookie season (a rare feat) and NFL Rookie of the Year. Thomas never made either. Hill posted two 1,000 yard seasons. Thomas never posted one. Hill led Dallas in rushing 4 years. Thomas did that twice, and more narrowly over the team’s other committee runners.

    I’m on firm, sane ground here.”

    Oh really? Did this “All-Pro, Rookie of the Year” season by Calvin Hill lead to a Super Bowl appearance? How did the playoffs go for the Cowboys that year? A playoff game played at the Cotton Bowl, by the way. Cleveland smashed them 38-14 as Hill gained 17 yards on 8 carries (a whopping 2 yards a pop). GTFOH. In ’72, with the backfield all to himself, the Cowboys (who were NFC Champs the previous two years and current World Champs, thanks to Duane Thomas–who the team stupidly traded) were dethroned by the Redskins as Hill paced the Cowboys’ running game with a sterling 22 yards and a fumble. In ’73, Hill can’t get the Cowboys over the hump and leaves for more money with the WFL. He fumbled twice against the Rams and was injured in that playoff game and the Cowboys were wasted by the Vikings as Tarkenton and John Gilliam exploited the Cliff Harris-led secondary.

    When Duane Thomas was the primary ball carrier the Cowboys went to Super Bowls–PERIOD. He was angry at being underpaid and didn’t talk to anyone–big deal. You called him “a flake?” Tom Landry: “The reason we kept (Duane Thomas) in the lineup is because he didn’t make any errors on the field. So, obviously, he was listening and paying attention.”

    Rasputin (who has a stupid understanding of relative terms): “Thomas (led the Cowboys in rushing yardage) twice, and more narrowly over the team’s other committee runners.” Thomas outgained all other Cowboys by over 200 yards in 1970 and 325 in ’71. In ’69 Hill was Dallas’ leading rusher by 124 yards. Do you understand what “narrowly” means, dummy? Narrowly. This from an idiot who wrote that Walt Garrison had “almost” as many yards (74) as Thomas (95) in Super Bowl XI (BTW, Calvin Hill chipped in with an awesome total of 25 yards and a fumble). and that the Lombardi Packers and Super Bowl ’70s Steelers had “a few” good years (dynasties are more than a few good years, stupid) SMH.

    I’M the one on firmer, saner ground here.

    Rasputin offered this gem of an alibi: “You claim the Steelers lost because they didn’t yet have Swann, Lambert (who didn’t do anything but act like a punk by pulling down the decade’s best FS from behind, not attacking him face to face–I guess making nine straight Pro Bowls and five straight 1st Team All-Pro means someone “didn’t do anything,” SMH), or Stallworth. The easy counterpoint is that the Steelers kept losing until Lilly, Howley, Hayes, Andrie, and other great old Cowboys retired. We’ve already been through this. Yawn.”

    The problem with the Dallas part of this argument is when the Steelers beat the Cowboys in the ’70s, Dallas had Harvey Martin, Randy White and Too Tall Jones (squashes the Lilly excuse) as well as Hollywood Henderson (sober or high, he could do more than Howley) and your guy Drew Pearson (makes up for Bob Hayes–who was not a HOF, in my opinion). Frank Lewis, Ron Shanklin, and Henry Davis are nowhere near Swann, Stallworth, and Lambert. You’re really incredibly stupid. Andrie? Really? Are you going to tell us the Cowboys were missing Walt Garrison and Dan Reeves in those Pittsburgh administered beatdowns, too?

    The most profoundly ignorant statement of them all from Rasputin:

    “How did the Super Bowl trophy count between the teams (Dolphins/Steelers) look overall in the ’70s?”

    “Who cares?” There you go, people. In his desperate efforts to hold on to this lost cause, Rasputin doesn’t care that the Dolphins won only HALF of the world titles that the Steelers did in the ’70s. He would rather have two Super Bowls than four. Madness. Stupidity. Meltdown. Altogether.

    My pointing out that the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers, the Lombardi Packers and the Montana/Walsh 49ers routinely trashed the Landry Cowboys simply speaks to the point that the Landry Cowboys were NOT a dynasty and have enough, if not more than enough (Bob Hayes), representation in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

    Let me inform you again, dummy: You have not debunked anything. The Steelers have won more Super Bowls than the Cowboys. The Steelers have won the majority of their Super Bowl matchups with the Cowboys. The most successful team is judged by most world titles, not most REGULAR season wins. So grow a pair and try to answer the following questions that you have cowardly avoided like Cliff Harris cowardly avoided jack Lambert after Lambert trashed Harris. Of course, not answering these questions is yet another win for me over you (you roll over and take my beatings just like Landrys Cowboys did with the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers who you STILL have nightmares about).

    Once again…

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?**
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?**
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?**
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?**
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?**
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?**
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?**

    The Steelers are the Most Successful Trophy Accumulator of the Super Bowl era. The Cowboys are not. The Steelers have won Super Bowls in the 20th AND 21st century. The Cowboys have not. I didn’t lie about anything Ditka said. You have once again weakly attempted to twist what he said. What he was saying was obvious: The Steelers were the better team. And Dallas was not.

    Six world titles (Steelers franchise) is greater than five (Cowboys). The Steelers have won world titles in the 21st century. The Cowboys have not (“The century is still young!” Actually, the century is old enough to vote and join the military now. SMH). I would rather beat someone two out of three (Steelers vs. Cowboys in Super Bowls) than lose to someone two out of three (Cowboys vs. Steelers in Super Bowls). Only an idiot would dispute those numbers. To even be stupid enough to attempt to is a lost cause.

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

    **–Rasputin: Crickets

  39. Rasputin
    June 3, 2018
    Reply

    I didn’t put those comments in “quotes”, moron, and it’s not a lie to spell out the logical extension of your flawed position in my own words. It’s a device to illustrate the absurdity of your claim. I’ve told no “lies”. You’re the proven liar here. But I’ll charitably give you another chance. Answer this question:

    All else being equal, is it more impressive to….

    A. Win the conference championship and lose the Super Bowl

    or

    B. Lose before you get to that point and not make it to the Super Bowl

    ?

    Answer that simple, extremely pertinent question to settle this. Let’s say that A moves one’s SB record to 2-2 while B leaves it unchanged at 2-1 (not that the precise records impact the answer). And don’t post some insipid diversion like saying it’s better to win a SB than lose one (obviously) or it’s better to eat pizza than cardboard. We’ve established that you’re a coward, a moron, and a liar, Scott Remington, but suspend that for a minute and strive to be something better. Answering “B” or not at all would be the final flushing of everything you are or could be down the toilet. Answering “A” would be a concession that you’ve been wrong these past several posts. But sometimes an adult has to do that.

    Me: “Scott Remington believes that the 1980s was a better decade for the Steelers than the 1990s, even though in the 80s they went 77-75 in the regular season and 2-4 in the playoffs while in the 90s they went 93-67 in the regular season and 5-6 in the playoffs, because they lost a Super Bowl in the 1990s, worsening their “Super Bowl Winning Percentage”, while in the 1980s they avoided risking that by failing to make it to the Super Bowl.”

    You: “Both decades were essentially the same: Bad QBs (Stoudt, Malone, Brister, O’Donnell) and no Super Bowl trophies.”

    Setting aside that you’ve gone back to treating regular season games as totally meaningless again for now, hypocrite, the Steelers at least made it to the SB in the 1990s (where they were beat down by Dallas by double digits; BOOM!). You’re now saying that a 0-1 SB record is neither better nor worse than a 0-0 SB record, LMFAO? That’s not even consistent with your previous wrong position that a 0-0 record is somehow more impressive. Now they’re equal in your book? Only wins matter? I know you failed to finish high school but that mathematically means that a 2-2 SB record would be no worse or better than a 2-1 SB record in your book. Is this new position intentional or would you like to revise it?

    You’d find it easier to maintain a coherent, consistent stance throughout a debate if you put more thought into what you typed before you posted it.

    “We Steelers fans are about the jewelry (Super Bowl rings) and the hardware (Lombardi Trophies). There’s more in Pittsburgh than there is in Dallas. Right?”

    I might believe you’re partly right about the “jewelry” comment, LOL, but was this “hardware” statement still true when Dallas had more Lombardi trophies than Pittsburgh? Because that wasn’t too long ago….

    “So, you treasure successful regular seasons and conference championships more than world titles.”

    No, moron. I rightly value all of them to varying degrees. My goal every year as a Cowboys fan is that they win the Super Bowl. But a franchise should have more than just 6 seasons of something worthwhile out of 85 YEARS. The math doesn’t work in your favor.

    The Cowboys have the highest standards, expectations, and pressure of any franchise. That’s why they have the best results long term. They have one of the best Lombardi trophy counts, at times it’s been THE best, and even when they’re a SB win behind a single team they dominate on metrics like overall winning percentage, playoff seasons, conference championships, etc.. They have a firm foundation of success that’s not completely at the whims of a season to season fluctuation.

    “I totally destroyed your ignorance about The Raiders “owning” the Steelers in the ’70s (again) and, like the true ignorant coward you are, you failed to admit the mistake.”

    I said the SB Raiders went 6-0 against the Steelers from 1976-1983, throwing your own insipid argument back at you in devastating fashion (Noll’s Steeler’s failed to beat the “SB Raiders” during their run, LOL) since you’re the one whose entire argument has hinged on such things. The Raiders even went 6-5 against the Steelers in the 1970s as a whole (an arbitrary calendar demarcation). The Dolphins also posted a winning record against the Steelers in the 1970s. Those are facts. You failed to point out any “mistake”. Since these are facts you clearly didn’t know, or else you wouldn’t have made your stupid argument in the first place, the ignorance was yours. You’re welcome for the education.

    “Lombardi, Noll, and Walsh never had that mentality. That’s why they always beat the Landry Cowboys during their respective reigns.”

    And the Raiders (coaches Madden and Flores) always beat the Steelers during their SB reign. Yawn. I love how you leave out that Landry’s Cowboys beat the SB Raiders (the Steelers never could) and utterly crushed Shula’s Dolphins during their SB run (like Landry’s Cowboys, Miami was also undefeated against the Steelers over the first half of the 1970s), being the dishonest, cherry-picking wuss you are. You’re full of crap and you have no point.

    “You prefer having the greatest winning percentage in NFL history than having the greatest number of Lombardi Trophies? Are you that stupid?”

    I prefer having both, moron. As the Cowboys (but not the Steelers) have proved before, they’re not mutually exclusive. Dallas is potentially just one season away from reclaiming the status of having both titles simultaneously. Pittsburgh can’t say that. The Steelers’ alleged “dominance” is ephemeral (that basically means shaky and likely temporary, Mr. high school dropout) and based on only a very few data points. No wonder you’re so nervous and on edge about the Cowboys.

    Me: “But by your logic the Raiders weren’t “fully assembled” yet when the Steelers beat them, LMFAO!”

    You: “So you tell me, Mr. All of a Sudden I’m a Raiders Fan, who were the Raiders missing in the three playoff loses that the Steelers put on them in the ’70s?”

    You shallow idiot, there’s more to assembling a roster than adding names on a list. Players can grow, learn, and improve from year to year. So can coaches. Teams can jell. The Raiders improved enough to win their first Super Bowl in 1976 and begin that run that saw them win 3 Lombardi trophies and beat the Steelers 6 games in a row (only 1 short of Landry’s winning streak against Pittsburgh).

    That said, the Raiders DID experience roster turnover and lineup churning. RB Mark van Eeghen didn’t become the Raiders’ full time starter and leading rusher until 1976, a status he held through 1980. HoF TE Dave Casper didn’t become the starter until 1976, which was the first of his 5 consecutive Pro Bowl seasons. He torched (“exposed”?) the Steel Curtain with several performances, including a game with 7 catches for 124 yards and 2 TDs in 1976. Later as a Houston Oiler against Pittsburgh he had 3 catches for 93 yards and a TD in 1981, 6 catches for 139 yards and 3 TDs later in 1981, and 8 catches for 98 yards and a TD in 1982. 76 was Dave Rowe’s first full year at starting NT for Oakland. Willie Hall and HoFer Ted Hendricks were in their first full seasons as starting Oakland LBs.

    Plus CB Lester Hayes and LB Rod Martin were added in 1977. LB Matt Millen showed up in 1980. HoF DE Howie Long joined the team in 1981 and HoF RB Marcus Allen in 1982. Jim Plunkett became the starting QB in 1980 and various other changes occurred.

    The Raiders were able to sustain success despite the roster turnover. By contrast the Steelers had that one roster that experienced success for a few years (though they lost every game they played against the SB Raiders) and then faded, never to be revived.

    Also, posting facts refuting your moronic position doesn’t make me a “Raiders fan”, moron. You sound like a grade schooler on the short bus. Though that you admittedly believe saying something positive about a team necessarily means you like them, and conversely that saying something negative about them means you DON’T like them, only proves my point. You’re just a mindless Cowboys hater. Dallas haunts your nightmares.

    “The Steelers were even more dominant vs. the Cowboys in the ’70s…The Cowboys were light work”

    Have you even listened to Jack Ham’s interview on this page? He totally contradicts you, LMFAO. Controversial 4 spoint squeakers aren’t “dominant” or “light work”. True dominance was the Landry Cowboys beating the Steelers 7 games in a row in the 60s and 70s, including blowouts like 52-21 and 37-7. Or the 90s Cowboys beating the Steelers by double digits EVERY TIME THEY PLAYED, including the Super Bowl. THAT’S dominance.

    “Al Davis’ teams were always loaded) beat the Cowboys in 1974.”

    So? Not that it matters, but 74 was by far the Cowboys’ worst season that decade (8-6) and the only year they missed the playoffs. The Raiders were 12-2 and made it to the AFC championship. And yet it was just a 4 point game despite being played at Oakland. The Cowboys beat the SB Raiders by 6 points at Oakland in 1980, LMFAO. Like usual you have no point.

    “We’re not buying the built-in “rebuilding” alibi from the Landry Cowboys Excuse Machine. Dallas just simply didn’t get it done in ’74. No team makes the Conference title (’73), then fails to make the playoffs (’74), and then is in the Super Bowl the third year (’75) and the non-playoff year is termed “rebuilding.””

    Except the media almost universally proclaimed them “rebuilding” because it was true, LMFAO. The Cowboys were a lot less “assembled” than the Steelers had been in 1972 when Dallas beat them, Mr. Steelers Excuse Machine hypocrite.

    In just the 2 years leading up to 1975 the Cowboys had lost Bob Lilly, Chuck Howley, George Andrie, Walt Garrison. Cornell Green, Mike Ditka, Lance Alworth, and Dave Manders to retirement. They lost Bob Hayes, Pat Toomay (future Raider), John Niland, and Craig Morton (future Bronco) to other teams, and Calvin Hill to the WFL.

    That’s at least an incredible combined career 54 Pro Bowls lost in that short span not even counting Duane Thomas (who never made a Pro Bowl). Plus stalwart LBs Dave Edwards and the great Lee Roy Jordan were both in their final season in 75, while HoF DB Mel Renfro was in his next to last year as the full time starter and was already 2 years removed from his last Pro Bowl. Pro Bowl guard Blaine Nye would retire in 1976.

    How well would the SB Steelers have done if they had suddenly lost 54 Pro Bowls worth of players, LOL? As it turned out Pittsburgh did worse losing far less. Only a drooling moron or a liar (you’re both) would deny that Dallas was rebuilding. Of course they were rebuilding. That’s what made the 1975 “Dirty Dozen” draft that gave them a bump so famous, and their 75 SB run so surprising. Those new players were still rookies though and they were still a wildcard playoff team.

    “Hmmm. Duane Thomas made the playoffs that year–with the Redskins.”

    With 347 yards at 3.7 y/c Thomas was their third ranked rusher in 1974, his final season. What’s your point, halfwit?

    “Oh really? Did this “All-Pro, Rookie of the Year” season by Calvin Hill lead to a Super Bowl appearance?”

    How many Super Bowls did Duane Thomas lead Washington to, LMFAO? Man, you’re stupid.

    “Thomas outgained all other Cowboys by over 200 yards in 1970 and 325 in ’71. In ’69 Hill was Dallas’ leading rusher by 124 yards. Do you understand what “narrowly” means, dummy?”

    1970 Rushing Yards
    Duane Thomas – 803
    Rest of Cowboys – 1,497

    1971 Rushing Yards
    Duane Thomas – 793
    Rest of Cowboys – 1,456

    1972 Rushing Yards
    Calvin Hill – 1,036
    Rest of Cowboys – 1,088

    1973 Rushing Yards
    Calvin Hill – 1,142
    Rest of Cowboys – 1,276

    1969 Rushing Yards
    Calvin Hill – 942
    Rest of Cowboys – 1,334

    Man, you suck at math, Scott. I’m guessing you meant Thomas outgained second place by 2 or 3 hundred yards, but that’s not a lot in a committee system. Dallas still used a committee when Hill was the feature back but as the numbers show he gained more and accounted for a much higher percentage of team output. It was also much less of a committee with Hill since the only guy remotely in the ballpark of Calvin in 69 and 72 was Walt Garrison with rushing seasons of 818 (more than Thomas ever had) and 784 respectively. Hill and FB Garrison were on the field at the same time and no one else even cracked 200 those years so it wasn’t really a rotational committee.

    “This from an idiot who wrote that Walt Garrison had “almost” as many yards (74) as Thomas (95) in Super Bowl XI”

    I assume you meant SB VI and 21 yards isn’t a huge gap, moron. It would only take Garrison (5.3 y/a) 4 more carries to exceed that and Thomas (5 y/a) 5 carries to exceed that, LOL. I also love how you keep ignoring the fact I educated you with about Garrison gaining more yards than Thomas in the first half when the Super Bowl was mostly decided.

    “(BTW, Calvin Hill chipped in with an awesome total of 25 yards and a fumble).”

    He was coming off an injury, which was why Thomas got as much playing time that year as he did, and the broadcasters weren’t even expecting Hill to play.

    “Rasputin offered this gem of an alibi: “You claim the Steelers lost because they didn’t yet have Swann, Lambert..””

    BTW, I love how you characterize me mocking your excuse for the Steelers losing to the Cowboys as an “alibi” on my part. If you had stayed in school maybe you wouldn’t suck so bad at basic English.

    “”Lambert (who didn’t do anything but act like a punk by pulling down the decade’s best FS from behind, not attacking him face to face”–I guess making nine straight Pro Bowls and five straight 1st Team All-Pro means someone “didn’t do anything,” SMH)”

    I was specifically referring to his action against Harris in reply to your earlier comment, moron. See what I mean?

    Me: “The easy counterpoint is that the Steelers kept losing until Lilly, Howley, Hayes, Andrie, and other great old Cowboys retired. We’ve already been through this. Yawn.”

    You: “The problem with the Dallas part of this argument is when the Steelers beat the Cowboys in the ’70s, Dallas had Harvey Martin, Randy White and Too Tall Jones (squashes the Lilly excuse) as well as Hollywood Henderson (sober or high, he could do more than Howley) and your guy Drew Pearson (makes up for Bob Hayes–who was not a HOF, in my opinion).”

    It’s not about how good they are. The point is those were DIFFERENT players, moron. The Steelers couldn’t beat the Cowboys when they still had those other guys. And no, Thomas was a good strong side LB but Howley (a weak side LB) was the greatest LB in team history. It’s not even close. Lilly is the most decorated player in Cowboys history and Bob Hayes certainly belongs in the HoF. Go watch some of those old Game of the Week episodes from the 1960s available online and see Hayes repeatedly score 2 or 3 long TDs a game. He was an awesome player who made a huge, lasting impact on both the team and the league.

    Drew Pearson, Randy White, Harvey Martin, and Ed Jones were great too but they were different and I’m just using your own logic to destroy your position. Results against them don’t say anything about the early 70s Cowboys.

    “Andrie? Really? Are you going to tell us the Cowboys were missing Walt Garrison and Dan Reeves in those Pittsburgh administered beatdowns, too?”

    With 5 Pro Bowls George Andrie is the most decorated and arguably the best all around DE in franchise history. Dan Reeves led the NFL in TDs with 16 in 1966 which stood as the franchise record until Emmitt Smith finally passed it in 1992. They and Pro Bowl FB Walt Garrison administered 7 beatdowns in a row to the Steelers at one point, something Pittsburgh has never been able to do to Dallas.

    You’re a deeply ignorant man.

    “There you go, people. In his desperate efforts to hold on to this lost cause, Rasputin doesn’t care that the Dolphins won only HALF of the world titles that the Steelers did in the ’70s.”

    Wrong, moron. I just pointed out that the Dolphins won twice as many SBs as the Steelers in the first half of the 70s, which was the era I was talking about.

    “the Landry Cowboys were NOT a dynasty”

    The Pro Football Hall of Fame disagrees with you as I quoted earlier. You’ve even been refuted on the irrelevant tangents you went all in obsessing over and trying to divert to, LMFAO!!

    “and have enough, if not more than enough (Bob Hayes), representation in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.”

    Because you feel they didn’t win enough Super Bowls or is that just a coincidence? You need to make up your mind about whether team success should be a factor in HoF consideration or not. Either way you’re wrong, as the facts I’ve posted here show.

    The Landry Cowboys have fewer HoFers than many teams with no SB wins do from that same era, and are in the ballpark of teams like the Lions, which is a travesty.

    Individually Chuck Howley has 5 first team All Pro selections. Almost every eligible player with 4 is in Canton, let alone 5. He would be a glaring omission even if he hadn’t won a SB and been SB MVP.

    Drew Pearson and Cliff Harris are the only first team 70s All Decade offensive/defensive players not already in the HoF. Many of those inducted never won a Lombardi trophy.

    You have no counterargument to this. You’ve been exposed as a hypocrite, a moron, and a mindless Cowboys hater.

    The rest of your post just repeats already debunked material while mostly dodging my pertinent questions and arguments like the cowardly liar you’ve shown yourself to be. It’s more proof I’ve thoroughly kicked your ass all over this site.

    The Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They have a winning head to head record against the Steelers and whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade. No wonder you’re so butthurt and obsessively resentful. Dallas haunts your nightmares.

    We’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  40. Scott Remington
    June 4, 2018
    Reply

    I’ll answer your questions AFTER you grow some and answer mine, coward. Then and only then can we move on with this thing:

    Once again…

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?**
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?**
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?**
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?**
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?**
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?**
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?**

  41. Scott Remington
    June 4, 2018
    Reply

    “And how about between the 70s Steelers and 70s Raiders, LOL? The Raiders won most of their games against the Steelers that decade and the “SB Raiders” won ALL their games against the Steelers (6-0) from 1976-1983. Why couldn’t the Steelers ever beat the “Super Bowl Raiders”, Scott, LOL?”

    I schooled your ignorant ass on how the ’70s Steelers beat the ’70s Raiders in playoff competition 3-2 and conference title competition 2-1, totally blowing up whatever you were unsuccessfully and desperately trying to prove right in your face. Then, instead of admitting your mistake about the Raiders “owning” the Steelers in the ’70s (Raiders had the regular season edge; Steelers had the playoff edge, and, obviously, World Title edge–4-1; You can have the quantity; I’ll take the quality) you shifted the standards and now termed it the “Raiders SB Era” or whatever (1976-83). So be it. Let’s look at that era.

    The Raiders won three Super Bowls (although they never repeated). The Steelers won 2. And the Cowboys won one. So the Steelers STILL were on top of the Cowboys and STILL kicking their ass. What was the point here, dummy? Your ‘boys still are the biggest loser even in the Raiders era. STILL on the bottom. The Steelers are STILL undefeated against them and STILL in your nightmares from the RAIDERS era! LMAO!!! Now let me bravely address your question, “Why couldn’t the Steelers ever beat the “Super Bowl Raiders”, Scott, LOL?”:

    1) They were great champions, not paper champions (like Landry’s Cowboys; More SB trophies than Landry’s Cowboys, More true HOFers, etc.)

    2) The Raiders had better QBs (Stabler; Plunkett) than Dallas (Staubach; White) to matchup against the Steelers

    3) The Raiders had better, more intimidating secondaries–especially at safety (Tatum and Atkinson spearheaded the ’70s decade ending three-game winning streak; Swann and Stallworth couldn’t exploit them like they did Harris and Waters)–than Dallas

    4) The Super Bowl ’70s Steelers got old and faded in the ’80s. They STILL had enough to beat the Landry Cowboys two out of three for the decade, however.

    So much for the weak bandwagoning attempt with the Raiders, stupid. The Steelers STILL have more Super Bowl Trophies than the Cowboys or Raiders. Sweet nightmares (Swann; Stallworth; Lambert), dummy.

  42. Rasputin
    June 4, 2018
    Reply

    **FLUSH***

    You ignored most of my last post that ass stomped you on every topic. But your biggest failure was chickening out of answering the main question. While I’ve answered most of your asinine, off topic, often hopelessly loaded questions (you’ve ignored my responses), you couldn’t even answer the simple, straightforward question about whether it’s more impressive to win a conference championship or lose one (or lose before getting there). You didn’t want to openly embrace losing but as a mindless Cowboys hater you couldn’t bring yourself to admit that you’ve been wrong all this time by stupidly arguing that Roethlisberger’s 2-1 SB record is somehow more impressive than Staubach’s 2-2 record. You posted that without thinking it through and must now realize you were wrong but you’ve stuck with it anyway.

    That flushing sound was the last of your dignity and any hope for you turning your life around vanishing down the toilet. You can sit there on the couch eating chips in your little Steelers outfit but you aren’t a competitor. You aren’t an athlete. You certainly weren’t a football player and you’ve shown that you know very little about the sport. You draw false pride from what other people did in four games 40 or more years ago, two of them fluky squeakers, surrounded by what you admit have been 79 worthless years for the franchise, and you hate other teams and people who make you feel insecure.

    You’re a coward, a moron, a liar, and a weakling, Scott Remington. You have no integrity. You’re not a man in the full sense of the word and you never will be. You’re a disgrace to the human race.

    “I schooled your ignorant ass on how the ’70s Steelers beat the ’70s Raiders in playoff competition 3-2 ”

    Those wins weren’t against the “Super Bowl Raiders”, LMFAO. The Steelers lost to the SB Raiders all 6 games they played. I’ve been the one schooling you on all these facts that you clearly didn’t know, you ignorant buffoon. If you had you wouldn’t have tried to make the lame arguments you did. They’ve blown up in your face.

    “whatever you were unsuccessfully and desperately trying to prove right in your face.”

    LOL! Other way around, Chico. I just used your own stupid argument against you. You made a big deal about Dallas not beating the “Super Bowl Steelers” during their 6 year run, claiming that proved they sucked or weren’t true champions or some BS like that. Well your Steelers never beat the SB Raiders in their 8 year run from 1976-1983. They had an even longer winning streak against Pittsburgh than the Steelers did against Dallas. They played more, being in the same conference, and in 6 games you’d figure Pittsburgh might have won 1 or 2 by luck. But nope. Plus the Steelers lost every game they played against the SB Dolphins in the first half of the 1970s. By your own logic that greatly diminishes the Steelers “dynasty”. You can’t eat your cake and have it too, Scott.

    BTW, the Cowboys did beat both the SB Dolphins and the SB Raiders. The former was a crushing 24-3 SB victory that happened while Dallas was also beating the Steelers 7 games in a row.

    You didn’t say whether the Cowboys’ 1980 victory over Oakland proved Dallas was the better team that year, another question you dodged. Keep in mind I’m not the one necessarily arguing that it does since only the 72 Dolphins have gone undefeated (as I keep pointing out). I’m just illustrating what a stupid, cowardly buffoon you are to cherry-pick certain games and short few year spans against a single team to try to draw sweeping conclusions from while ignoring the similar facts that go completely against you. Maybe if you had finished high school you wouldn’t keep doing that.

    I’ll add that the individual 71 and 77 Cowboys teams, and for that matter the 90s Cowboys championship teams, were greater than all the Raiders SB teams. Each of them likely would have beaten the best Raiders teams even worse than the Cowboys beat the Raiders in 1980.

    All 5 Cowboys teams probably would have beaten the best Steelers teams too. Pittsburgh’s best shot would have been against the 95 Cowboys…………….who ironically beat the Steelers by double digits in the Super Bowl, LOL. But by the time they peaked in the playoffs the 71, 77, 92, and 93 Cowboys were too dominant (and in 77 Randy White wasn’t wearing a cast, Jackie Smith wasn’t on the team, Mel Renfro was on the team, Ralph Neely was on the team, Harvey Martin was DPOY with 20 sacks in a 14 game season, Dallas had shaken off its mid season lull, and Doomsday was at its most devastating). The Steelers’ best chance out of those 4 would have been against the 93 Cowboys because Aikman had just suffered a concussion against SF and the defense wasn’t quite as good as it had been the year before. But that offensive line was a machine. And that was Emmitt Smith’s year. The Steel Curtain could be vulnerable to the run. Emmitt likely would have been SB MVP against Lambert’s Steelers too.

    “Then, instead of admitting your mistake about the Raiders “owning” the Steelers in the ’70s…you shifted the standards and now termed it the “Raiders SB Era” or whatever (1976-83).”

    Wrong, liar. Aside from the fact that the Raiders did beat the Steelers most of the times they played in the entire 1970s (some would call that “owning”), I was specific with what I meant from the beginning and identified a few different ways in which the Raiders owned the Steelers, including some specific games. This is what I said back on May 16, which looks like the first time I mentioned the Raiders/Steelers matchup here.

    Me (May 16): “In fact outside of one brief 6 year stretch from 1974-1979 can you name ANY glory period for the Steelers in the entire 20th Century? The Raiders owned you even during that short stretch.”

    Indeed the Raiders went 4-2 against the Steelers from 1974-1979. That is owning them. I also mentioned the 6 game winning streak and other facts. Some other segments from the same post.

    Me (May 16): “From 1973-1983 the Raiders went 8-2 (actually 8-3) against the Steelers! That was the “Super Bowl Steelers’” supposed peak, about the only period worth bragging about in their entire, mostly sorry history in the 20th Century. That includes humiliating trouncings of 33-14, 24-7, and 38-10 in the playoffs (ouch! no 4 points squeakers there!).”

    Me (May 16): “In 1974, during the Steelers’ first Super Bowl season, the Raiders SHUT OUT Pittsburgh 17-0. How do you get shut out during your championship season? That’s just…..embarrassing.”

    Me (May 16): “Starting in 1976 the Raiders beat the Steelers 6 games in a row. Pittsburgh didn’t win again until 1984. That covers the supposed high point of Steeler history and they got blanked.That’s almost as long a winning streak as the 7 games in a row the Cowboys beat the Steelers from the late 60s through the mid 70s (Landry’s OTHER peak you keep trying to forget).”

    Apart from a minor typo that you didn’t even notice I made no mistake. I mentioned the 1976-1983 Raiders 6 game winning streak against the Steelers in that first post. Then you lied and tried to claim that I had been talking about the entire 1970s, so I posted facts showing that the Raiders mostly beat the Steelers throughout the whole decade too anyway. That you grasp so hard at straws like that which don’t help your case anyway and you miss just shows how desperate and pathetic you are.

    As you vanish down the toilet whatever floating objects you try to latch onto are going down with you.

    “in the ’70s (Raiders had the regular season edge; Steelers had the playoff edge,”

    The Raiders had the OVERALL edge. And the fact that the Pre SB Raiders were even in the playoffs so much just underscores how much better they were than the Pre SB Steelers. It doesn’t change the fact that the Steelers never beat the SB Raiders despite their runs overlapping. Hey, I’m not the one arguing that’s of supreme importance. I’m just collapsing your position on its own self contradictions.

    “Now let me bravely address your question, “Why couldn’t the Steelers ever beat the “Super Bowl Raiders”, Scott, LOL?”:

    1) They were great champions, not paper champions (like Landry’s Cowboys;”

    So by your logic the Steelers were paper champions who got lucky by not facing the Raiders in the playoffs in 78 or 79, or the Dolphins in 74 or 75, moron. They also didn’t have to face the 77 or 71 Cowboys in the playoffs but that’s neither here nor there.

    “2) The Raiders had better QBs (Stabler; Plunkett) than Dallas (Staubach; White) to matchup against the Steelers”

    LMFAO! Stabler and Plunkett both threw more interceptions than touchdowns in their careers while Staubach was a first ballot HoFer who retired with the best career passer rating in NFL history and is rightly considered one of the greatest players of all time. Even Danny White threw more touchdowns than interceptions and he managed to beat the Raiders and the Steelers.

    The last speck of your credibility just went down the toilet too.

    “3) The Raiders had better, more intimidating secondaries–especially at safety (Tatum and Atkinson spearheaded the ’70s decade ending three-game winning streak; Swann and Stallworth couldn’t exploit them like they did Harris and Waters)–than Dallas”

    Apparently you’re wrong again, since Cliff Harris won 2 Super Bowls while Tatum only won 1 (Weren’t Lombardi trophies your chief argument? Another faceplant by Scott Remington). Let’s focus on the Harris and Tatum comparison since their starting careers at Dallas and Oakland coincided exactly with each other, 1971-1979.

    Passing Yards Allowed 1971-1979

    Cowboys – 18,948
    NFL average – 20,248.8
    Raiders – 20,704

    Passing Yards Allowed Per Game 1971-1979

    Cowboys – 145.75 y/g
    NFL Average – 155.76 y/g
    Raiders – 159.26 y/g

    Pass Defense League Ranking

    1976
    Cowboys (with Harris) – 7th
    Raiders (with Tatum) – 23rd

    1977
    Cowboys (with Harris) – 2nd
    Raiders (with Tatum) – 22nd

    1978
    Cowboys (with Harris) – 5th
    Raiders (with Tatum) – 20th

    1979
    Cowboys (with Harris) – 3rd
    Raiders (with Tatum) – 21st

    ————-

    1980
    Cowboys (without Harris) – 16th
    Raiders (without Tatum) – 19th

    LMFAO! The Harris Cowboys are in the top 5 during the decade’s climax while the Tatum Raiders are stuck in the 20s. And that’s despite Oakland playing in a much weaker division that included opponents like the 0-14 1976 Bucs (in the argument for worst team of all time) and expansion Seahawks, LOL!

    Oakland had one of the worst secondaries in the NFL during their SB run while the Cowboys had one of the best. The year immediately after Harris retired Dallas slipped from 3rd to 16th. The year after Tatum left for his one season at Houston the Raiders actually IMPROVED a couple of spots.

    So Harris, who hit hard like Tatum but was smarter and better in coverage, was clearly vital to his team’s superior pass defense. By contrast Tatum may have been a liability in coverage if anything. Either way pass defense was his team’s biggest weakness. Here are individual comparisons:

    Cliff Harris – 6 Pro Bowls, 3 first team AP All Pro selections, first team All Decade

    Jack Tatum – 3 Pro Bowls

    1971 – 1979

    Cliff Harris Cowboys – 4 SB appearances, 6 conference championship game appearances, 8 playoff seasons, 2 SB wins, 107 total wins

    Jack Tatum Raiders – 1 SB appearance, 5 conference championship game appearances, 6 playoff seasons, 1 SB win, 99 total wins

    Once again the truth is the opposite of your claim and your ass has been handed to you.

    “So much for the weak bandwagoning attempt with the Raiders,”

    Wait….does that mean YOU’RE attempting to bandwagon with the Raiders, Packers, and 49ers, depending on which era you’re talking about? LMFAO!

    You’re such a hypocritical buffoon. If you knew how to play chess, Scott, you wouldn’t even think one move ahead. You’d just be blindly moving pieces until you quickly blundered into defeat.

    “4) The Super Bowl ’70s Steelers got old and faded in the ’80s. They STILL had enough to beat the Landry Cowboys two out of three for the decade, however.”

    The Cowboys have beaten the Steelers more overall. They’ve inflicted the biggest blowouts and own the longest winning streaks in the series. They beat the Steelers by double digits in the only head to head Super Bowl played within the last 40 years and they’ve beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played THIS decade. No wonder Dallas haunts your nightmares and compels you to post obsessively about a team you don’t root for.

    As for the Raiders, Dallas has 5 SB wins and 8 conference championships to their 3 SB wins and 5 conference championships. The Cowboys also have a higher overall winning percentage (obviously since they rank #1 in the NFL), and have more playoff seasons, etc.. Dallas has also beaten the Raiders the last 3 times they’ve played, including their last ever game at Oakland last year.

    So don’t worry, Raiders fans have nightmares about the Cowboys too. 😉

  43. Scott Remington
    June 5, 2018
    Reply

    This gem is ridiculous: “I’ll add that the individual 71 and 77 Cowboys teams, and for that matter the 90s Cowboys championship teams, were greater than all the Raiders SB teams. Each of them likely would have beaten the best Raiders teams even worse than the Cowboys beat the Raiders in 1980.”

    First off, let’s throw off the Jimmy Johnson Cowboys because we’re talking about the paper champion Landry Cowboys here–that were NOT a dynasty. The ’71 edition would not have beaten the ’76 Raiders because Stabler was at his absolute peak as were Branch, Biletnikoff, and Casper who, as a receiving corps, were far superior to Warfield, Twilley, and Marv Fleming. Gene Upshaw (who effectively blocked HOFer Buck Buchanan twice a year) could neutralize Bob Lilly while Art Shell (strong, mobile, and 310-330 LBs) would have absolutely destroyed George Andrie.

    The ’83 Raiders would have shut down the ’77 Cowboys completely. The ’83 Redskins scored and NFL record 541 points (34 a game) and Hayes, Haynes, Howie Long and the rest of the incorrigibles shut them down to nine points. The ’77 Cowboys offense was actually held to 13 points in Super Bowl XII. It took Butch Johnson’s phantom “catch” (it was a drop, even by ’77 standards; an incomplete ruling would not have been controversial at all) and a gadget play (a FULLBACK option pass!) to push the Dallas total to 27.

    Drew Pearson was a nonfactor vs. Louis Wright (All-Decade-70s; one catch, 13 yards. Yawn) and now he has to deal with Lester Hayes AND Mike Haynes (who shut Pearson out in a ’78 matchup)? Tony Hill, Golden Richards, and Butch Johnson aren’t even worth discussing. And I’m sure Howie Long, Alzado and the bunch would harass Staubach (who was a dreadfull 17-39 with a 66.8 QB rating against the Tatum-led secondary–who didn’t have the benefit of a great pass rush–by the way) as well as the Steel Curtain did.

    “All 5 Cowboys teams probably would have beaten the best Steelers teams too.” But we’re are only discussing the first two because we’re discussing the LANDRY Cowboys. We know one thing for sure: The ’77 Cowboys DID NOT beat the Steelers. They got popped in the mouth in the regular season 28-13 by the WORST of the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers teams.The landry crew thought they were going to re-establish themselves as the big, bad bullies. Didn’t happen. Then the next year, in an effort to repeat, get an inside track or at least a share of the title as the decade’s best team, Landry’s Cowboys were struck back by the Steelers again. Landry’s Cowboys again failed. And they (the LANDRY crew; don’t try to sneak in Jimmy’s bunch to distort the point) would never return to Super Bowl again. The Steelers would become the first team to ever win three SBs and would repeat the next year to pad the trophy total and close the ’70s as the decade’s best team.

    “While I’ve answered most of your asinine, off topic, often hopelessly loaded questions (you’ve ignored my responses),…” Lie. Outside of the question about cocking Joe Greene at an angle (and, as usual, the answer was of a cop-out nature to avoid acknowledging Chuck Noll’s football genius on that move), you’ve answered none of my questions that are neither asinine nor “loaded.” I have not ignored your responses to those questions because there are none. If there are any, cut and paste them with the date, rocket scientist.

    Once again…

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?**
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?**
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?**
    Why couldn’t the Landry Cowboys EVER beat the SuperBowl ’70s Steelers despite multiple opportunities to redeem themselves and get revenge? Lack of talent? Lack of heart? Lack of pride? Were the Steelers just too great?**
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?**
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?**
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?**

    Hiding behind the Raiders (a worthy opponent, I will admit) to fight the wars against the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers that the Landry Cowboys couldn’t win. Very pathetic. Even though the Steelers were 2-4 vs. the Raiders from 1974-79, the two wins put them in the Super Bowl. Conference Titles (Don’t YOU love those, Rasputin?). And the Steelers took care of business, especially that last one where they beat the Cowboys and started the Landry Cowboys’ Nightmares that lasts to this day. Isn’t that what this post is all about?

    Off-topic RIP to Dwight Clark. He may not have been a Steeler but he is in the Landry Cowboy Nation’s Nightmares, as well. He did do a great Lynn Swann imitation with The Catch. LMAO!!!

  44. Rasputin
    June 5, 2018
    Reply

    It’s too late to salvage your manhood but we could still have productive exchanges. How about you pick your most important question, I’ll answer it (again), then you answer mine? A one for one exchange. That’s more than fair to you. Afterwards I’ll respond to this other garbage just you posted.

  45. Scott Remington
    June 5, 2018
    Reply

    No, no, no.

    You’re the supposed “expert” and allegedly “a college graduate.”

    Just answer all the questions below:

    Why are these simple questions so hard for you to answer? Are you too dumb? Or just too scared? LMAO!!!

    Once again…

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?**
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?**
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?**
    Why couldn’t the Landry Cowboys ever beat the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers? Lack of talent? Lack of heart? Lack of pride? Were the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers just too great**
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?**
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?**
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?**

    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. It’s also a sign of desperation, the first step to a meltdown. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that. History shows: Pittsburgh Steelers SIX Lombardi Trophies; Dallas Cowboys five. Super Bowl head-to-head matchup results: Steelers Two, Cowboys one. Hold on tight to those REGULAR season and CONFERENCE titles, dummy. They STILL won’t help you fight off the nightmares of Swann, Stallworth, and Lambert.

    **–Rasputin: Crickets

  46. Rasputin
    June 5, 2018
    Reply

    “No, no, no.”

    🙂 And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Scott Remington has been lying about me supposedly not answering this list of “questions” he keeps copy pasting, and when I offer to answer the one he feels is most important (again) in exchange for him answering one of my questions (which is actually pertinent), a fair one for one exchange, the full truth comes out. He wusses out. That tells one everything one needs to know about Scott Remington.

    LMFAO! I figured you would refuse the challenge. I even sort of hoped you would since it would further expose what you are. If this exchange had gone through I might have even followed up on it with another and another going one at a time without BS distractions until all your insipid, off topic, hopelessly loaded questions had been answered (again) and you had finally answered mine. But you just proved you don’t really want that.

    That’s partly because NONE of your questions are important or meaningful while you’re deathly afraid of mine. The last speck of your credibility just vanished down the toilet. There’s no coming back for you.

    I mercifully accept your surrender.

  47. Scott remington
    June 5, 2018
    Reply

    Quit lying, Rasputin. You’ve never answered these questions. If you’re too lazy to re-write your answers (most of the answers are simple, objective, factual numbers, SMH) There is a technological process called “copy and paste.” I would request that you also have the dates you answered. That would make me look ridiculous, right? From there, I’ll answer your “pertinent” question. I can’t wait to see what your creative “mindpower” came up with. Assuming you really answered these questions for me before, liar. I scrapped the Joe Greene question. I got that cop-out answer to Chuck Noll’s briliant use of Greene. Once I see the answers, ONLY THEN can the conversation go on. look forward to seeing the answers, coward.

    Once again…

    What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers? **
    What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers? **
    If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? **
    Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? **

    After all, “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” ** LMAO!!!

    And…
    What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys?**
    What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys?**
    Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft?**
    Did Noll show football genius by cocking Joe Greene at an angle on the line to create more havoc for opposing offenses (Super Bowl Record seven sacks in SB X. Were the sacks “a fluke”)?**
    What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry?**
    How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh?**
    How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?**
    All the ammunition I need to beat your sorry ass, Rasputin. Not answering the above questions will ALWAYS be a victory for me. Hint: Responding to a question with another question–i.e.,diversionary tactic–is not ANSWERING a question. It’s also a sign of desperation, the first step to a meltdown. We college graduates, especially us University of Pittsburgh grads, understand that.

    History shows: Pittsburgh Steelers SIX Lombardi Trophies; Dallas Cowboys five. Super Bowl head-to-head matchup results: Steelers Two, Cowboys one. Hold on tight to those REGULAR season records and CONFERENCE titles, dummy. They STILL won’t help you fight off the nightmares of Swann, Stallworth, and Lambert. LOL!!!

  48. Rasputin
    June 5, 2018
    Reply

    You already surrendered, Scott. I just gave you a chance to pick one question for me to answer (again) in a feature spotlight, the most important one, if you would answer one of mine afterwards and you chickened out, proving you’ve been a lying coward this whole time with this “questions” stuff. I was even going to answer yours first and you still refused, LMFAO.

    You also completely dodged the sledgehammer facts I posted pulverizing your ignorant Cliff Harris/Jack Tatum comparison, schooling you on the Thomas/Hill comparison, and my detailed copy-pastes of my own previous comments (with dates) proving you’ve been lying about what I said regarding Raiders/Steelers matchups, along with most of the other stuff I posted, being the cowardly moron you are. Unless you were just too lazy to respond. Either way you lose again.

    As for the other garbage you posted earlier….

    Me: “I’ll add that the individual 71 and 77 Cowboys teams, and for that matter the 90s Cowboys championship teams, were greater than all the Raiders SB teams. Each of them likely would have beaten the best Raiders teams even worse than the Cowboys beat the Raiders in 1980.”

    You: “First off, let’s throw off the Jimmy Johnson Cowboys”

    I accept your concession that the 90s Cowboys would have beaten the best Raiders (and Steelers) teams.

    “The ’71 edition would not have beaten the ’76 Raiders because Stabler was at his absolute peak as were Branch, Biletnikoff, and Casper who, as a receiving corps, were far superior to Warfield, Twilley, and Marv Fleming. Gene Upshaw (who effectively blocked HOFer Buck Buchanan twice a year) could neutralize Bob Lilly while Art Shell (strong, mobile, and 310-330 LBs) would have absolutely destroyed George Andrie.”

    The 76 Raiders defense only ranked 18th, LMFAO! Doomsday ranked 3rd in 1971, and that was skewed down by their erratic 4-3 start when they were shuttling QBs before Staubach was chosen as the full time starter and they went undefeated the rest of the way. It’s not even close. The Cowboys defense was awesome by the time that team peaked. Doomsday only allowed 1 TD that entire postseason and Dallas remains the only team in Super Bowl history to keep their opponent from scoring a TD (Oakland allowed 6 TDs in the 76 playoffs, including 2 in the Super Bowl). Bob Lilly said that season that “they (other teams) were going to have to crawl over dead bodies to score,” and NO ONE could “neutralize” Bob Lilly, especially by himself. Lilly was the greatest and most unblockable DT of all time. He routinely collapsed offensive lines despite often being triple teamed. He, 5 time Pro Bowl DE George Andrie, and Jethro Pugh would have destroyed the Raiders offense like they did the greater Dolphins offense.

    If the Dolphins #1 ranked rushing offense, led by HoFer Larry Csonka, was shut down by Doomsday then the poor Raiders led by Mark van Eeghen (0 career Pro Bowls) wouldn’t stand a chance. Dallas could focus on shutting down the Oakland passing game. HoF Mel Renfro IN HIS PRIME, possessing world class track speed, physical enough that he made Pro Bowls at safety too, and perhaps the best shut down corner before Deion Sanders, anchored one side and HoF former Packer CB Herb Adderley manned the other side. No softness there. Playing safety was veteran Cornell Green, an athletic basketball star who could have played in the NBA and was good enough in coverage that he made 3 first team All Pro selections at CB. Not just Pro Bowls. Three first team All Pro selections. He made 5 Pro Bowls at the two positions in his career, including in 1971 (most of the other guys I’m mentioning were 1971 Pro Bowlers too). The other safety was eventual first team All Decade FS Cliff Harris. Harris had interceptions in both of the first two rounds of the playoffs that year, and was flying around knocking WRs out. Certainly no softness there either.

    The great Cowboys LB crew was outstanding against both the run and the pass. No one was tougher than MLB Lee Roy Jordan, who led the franchise in tackles for decades. Dave Edwards, the NFL’s original strongside LB (since Landry, a true football genius, had invented the concepts of weak and strongside LBs in the 60s), was devastating against the Run. Howley, the best LB in Cowboys history, was great at everything.

    Ken Stabler throwing more interceptions than TDs in his career would come into play because these Cowboys LBs were also prone to making big plays. Last I checked (which was just a few years ago), Jordan still ranked 3rd in NFL history in interceptions among LBs. Chuck Howley’s 43 combined takeaways rank 2nd in NFL history among OLBs. The old Madden (of all people, LOL) cliche about guys playing defense because they couldn’t catch did NOT apply to Cowboys. The Dallas pass rush would have shredded the Raiders offense and knocked Stabler around all day, forcing a number of turnovers. It wouldn’t have been pretty but it would have been fun to see.

    While the biggest gap between the teams was on defense the Raiders were inferior on offense too. Oakland did rank 2nd and 4th in scoring in 1976 so that was clearly the strength of their team. But Dallas ranked #1 in both total offense and scoring in 1971. 1971 was the most explosive of the 5 Cowboys championship offenses; not necessarily the best offense overall but the most explosive in downfield passing and racking up points. The 71 Cowboys averaged 29 points/game (the 76 Raiders averaged 25). Like all Dallas SB champions they were balanced, not just great on both sides of the ball but within the offense too between passing and running. HoF WRs Bob Hayes, the fastest player in NFL history, and Lance Alworth sparked the explosiveness. The weak Raiders secondary ranked 23rd in 76 and would have been in serious trouble.

    Your boasts about Stabler are laughable and ignorant. Stabler had a fine season in 76, by far his best. He even led the league with an excellent 103.4 rating, his only time to lead the NFL. Roger Staubach posted an even better 104.8 rating in 71, his first year as the starter and his first of FOUR years to lead the league.

    Roger also shook defenses up by contributing 343 rushing yards. Between his great passing and running he was often described as “indefensible”. Stabler rushed for -2 yards in 1976. That’s not a typo. His total was -2 yards. The weak Raiders D-line would have been run ragged and gassed by the 3rd quarter if not sooner.

    Stabler threw 17 interceptions that year. Staubach threw 4. While Staubach started a couple fewer games, Stabler’s interception percentage was 5.8% while Staubach’s was only 1.9%, the league’s best. And, as you put it, that was Stabler “at his absolute peak”, LOL. Staubach could be dynamic while still protecting the ball but the Raiders were a bunch of turnovers waiting to happen if they ran into the right opponent (Dallas).

    In the interview on this very page Steeler LB Jack Ham calls the Cowboys offensive line “outstanding” and explains that they were more formidable than those of other opponents. And he’s talking about the 1975 Cowboys, a wildcard team that was still rebuilding. They were even better in both 71 and 77.

    As explosive as the 71 Cowboys passing attack was the ground attack was just as dominant. Dallas ranked 2nd in passing yards and 3rd in Rushing yards. They ranked 2nd in passing TDs and 1st in rushing TDs.

    Let’s get this straight. The early 70s Dolphins defense was much better than the 76 Raiders defense. No Name was truly great. And the Cowboys put a SB record 252(!) rushing yards on them. Behind the great O-line that star-studded Dallas runner committee would have knifed through the weak Raiders defense even more easily. No one could run against Dallas, nor could teams stop the Dallas rushing attack. Ball control…..time of possession….the Raiders offense would have spent most of the game standing on the sidelines watching. When they did finally get in they would have pressed harder, feeling desperate, and been more mistake prone.

    The Cowboys match up better across the board. It’s really not close. And while I’d argue that Bob Griese and Paul Warfield were better than Stabler and Branch (the HoF certainly agrees with me on that one at least, judging by how fast the former were selected), even if you disagree the fact remains that the Cowboys didn’t just slip by the Dolphins in a 4 point squeaker. They crushed them 24-3. So how MUCH better do you really believe Stabler and Branch were, and how do you feel Mark van Eeghen stacks up against Larry Csonka? Be honest.

    The 71 Cowboys were greater and would win that game.

    “The ’83 Raiders would have shut down the ’77 Cowboys completely. The ’83 Redskins scored and NFL record 541 points (34 a game) and Hayes, Haynes, Howie Long and the rest of the incorrigibles shut them down to nine points.”

    The 83 Raiders allowed 20.8 points a game and didn’t even rank in the top 10 defensively in scoring, LMFAO! Joe Theismann had a bad game in the SB and threw some interceptions but the Raiders didn’t shut hardly anyone ELSE down that year. Plus Staubach was a lot better than Theismann and Tony Dorsett was a lot better than Riggins, but that UPSET victory over Washington had more to do with softer Redskins defense which didn’t rank in the top 10 in either scoring or yards.

    By contrast the great 77 Broncos Orange Crush defense ranked 3rd in scoring and only gave up 10.6 points/ game. Denver surrendered HALF as many points as the 83 Raiders did per game and the Cowboys still scored 27 on them. That’s really good given that 10.6 average. That’s despite the usually reliable Dallas kicker missing several field goals that would have made the 27-10 score even more lopsided.

    The 1977 Cowboys ranked #1 in offense AND #1 in defense. So no, a Raiders team that allowed over 20 points/game wouldn’t have shut them down.

    Doomsday would have shut down the Raiders though. The 83 Redskins allowed 329 yards/game. The 77 Cowboys only allowed 229.5 yards/game. No one ran against Doomsday when that team peaked and was firing on all cylinders. No one. They had just stoned the great Walter Payton in by far his greatest season (NFL MVP) 37-7 in a game that wasn’t as close as the score indicated. Marcus Allen would have done worse, not better. Payton averaged 132.3(!) rushing yards/game and 5.5 y/a in 1977. Dallas held him to 60 yards on 19 attempts for 3.16 y/a. Marcus Allen averaged 63.4 yards/game and 3.8 y/a in 1983. He found space against the Redskins run defense but he would have found himself up against a very different animal in Doomsday. Randy “The Manster” White, DPOY Harvey “Too Mean” Martin, and Ed “Too Tall” Jones would have made his day very frustrating and painful. They might have been even harder on poor Jim Plunkett.

    Like Stabler, Plunkett threw more interceptions than touchdowns in his career. Unlike Stabler, Plunkett never made a Pro Bowl and he threw almost as many interceptions as touchdowns THAT YEAR, 20-18. And that was by far HIS best season. The 83 Raiders were even more of a turnover fest waiting to happen.

    That’s relevant because in SB XII the Cowboys generated a record 8 turnovers from the Broncos. That record stood until the Bills coughed it up 9 times to…………the Dallas Cowboys in SB XXVII.

    Doomsday held Craig Morton to a 0.0 passer rating. That’s after he had posted ratings of 102.9 and 100.6 in beating the Raiders and Steelers respectively. Dallas held Denver to 35 net passing yards, another SB record that still stands.

    Again, the Cowboys are better across the board. It’s not even close. The 77 Cowboys defense is in the argument for greatest of all time, and it was complemented by an offense that was legitimately great and led the NFL that year. Both the 71 and 77 Cowboys are among the greatest teams in NFL history.

    “The ’77 Cowboys offense was actually held to 13 points in Super Bowl XII. It took Butch Johnson’s phantom “catch” (it was a drop, even by ’77 standards; an incomplete ruling would not have been controversial at all) and a gadget play (a FULLBACK option pass!) to push the Dallas total to 27.”

    No, Johnson’s play was a catch by the rules of the time, and a trick play is still part of the offense, you idiot. You can’t disallow it just because you don’t like that the Cowboys scored so much, LOL. Plus the trick play was perfectly executed. The FB Newhouse threw a perfectly accurate spiral. Of course if you tossed out both those plays Dallas could have made up for it by scoring other ways. They firmly controlled the game.

    The Dallas offense outgained Denver 325 yards to 156 yards. There was absolutely nothing fluky about this 27-10 beatdown. The margin easily could have been much bigger.

    “Drew Pearson was a nonfactor vs. Louis Wright (All-Decade-70s; one catch, 13 yards. Yawn) and now he has to deal with Lester Hayes AND Mike Haynes”

    So? Actually he was a factor in drawing so much attention that it helped open up things for others. Staubach spread the ball around. The great TE Billy Joe DuPree, Robert Newhouse, Preston Pearson, Golden Richards, Butch Johnson, and Tony Dorsett each had multiple catches. How many star Raider CBs did you list again, LOL?

    Staubach completed 68% of his passes and posted a 102.6 rating against a legitimately great Broncos defense. He and the Cowboys running game would have been fine against the weaker Raiders defense.

    “Staubach (who was a dreadfull 17-39 with a 66.8 QB rating against the Tatum-led secondary”

    That was in 1974, moron, by far Dallas’ worst season of the decade and the only one in which they failed to make the playoffs. Staubach’s rating for the ENTIRE SEASON was only 68.4, by far the worst of his starting career. LMFAO! It’s meaningless to this discussion. That was the only season of his starting career where Staubach threw more interceptions than touchdowns. Man, you’re desperate.

    “We know one thing for sure: The ’77 Cowboys DID NOT beat the Steelers.”

    The 1980 Cowboys DID BEAT the Raiders. You keep dodging my highly pertinent question about what that means (or doesn’t mean).

    In 1977 Dallas lost to the Cardinals (who finished 7-7) too the previous week. It was just a lull that had more to do with the calender than the opponents. The Cowboys quickly shook that off though, won the rest of their games, and peaked in the playoffs.

    We do know that the Steelers only squeaked by the 78 and 75 Cowboys (a wild card team!) by 4 points, with Dallas leading most of SB X and SB XIII being a back and forth one score game until that bizarre bad luck sequence in just a minute of game time in the 4th quarter.

    The Cowboys were better in 1971 and 1977. When peaking those teams would have beaten the Steelers as the 90s Cowboys would have. They would have crushed the Raiders even more decisively.

    “Outside of the question about cocking Joe Greene at an angle (and, as usual, the answer was of a cop-out nature to avoid acknowledging Chuck Noll’s football genius on that move),”

    Liar. I explained that calling someone a “genius” because of a single coaching move is absurd, and I described true football geniuses like Landry and Walsh at length. Your failure to acknowledge or address what I said was the cop out.

    “Even though the Steelers were 2-4 vs. the Raiders from 1974-79”

    That time period represents the “SB Steelers” run (you coined that phrasing, btw, not me, despite your recent implication otherwise, hypocrite), not the SB Raiders run, and Oakland STILL went 4-2 against your team.

    The SB Raiders (1976-1983) went 6-0 against the Steelers.

    If you combine the two eras, from 1974-1983, the Raiders went 7-2 against Pittsburgh during that span, and their playoff victories were more crushing than the Steelers’ were. 7-2 is “owning”. Then there’s this:

    Combined All Time Head to Head Playoff Scoring
    Raiders – 125
    Steelers – 84

    Whoah! Was the Steel Curtain “exposed” or what, LMFAO!

    The Steelers went 0-6 against the SB Raiders, 0-3 against the SB Dolphins, and 0-7 against the first Landry Cowboys peak from the mid 60s through the early 70s.

    By your own insipid logic that makes the Steelers “paper champions”.

    “I have not ignored your responses to those questions because there are none. If there are any, cut and paste them with the date, rocket scientist.”

    You mean like I just did a couple of posts ago to prove you were lying about the “glory period” “1970s” thing, which you completely ignored in your response? If you’re too lazy to read and/or respond to my answers that’s your problem, not mine. I’m not required to keep spoonfeeding you everything.

    We proved that you were lying with your “questions” stuff because you chickened out of my offer to answer whatever question you pick as your most important followed by you answering my question, a fair one to one exchange without a load of distracting other mess around for you to hide the truth behind. Your failure to accept that challenge is effectively a surrender.

    “Off-topic RIP to Dwight Clark. He may not have been a Steeler but he is in the Landry Cowboy Nation’s Nightmares, as well. He did do a great Lynn Swann imitation with The Catch. LMAO!!!”

    I’ve never had a nightmare about “the catch” though it is an annoying clip that’s way overplayed. I prefer Harper’s big play to beat SF in the “Changing of the Guard” game, or Staubach’s last minute heroics to post the come from behind victory over the 49ers in the 1972 playoffs (the Cowboys are 5-2 against the 49ers all time in playoff games and Landry was 3-1 against them; they’re having nightmares about Dallas, LOL!), but Clark was a great player, ALS is a terrible affliction, and I second the RIP.

    The rest of your post just repeats already debunked material while mostly dodging my pertinent questions and arguments like the cowardly liar you’ve shown yourself to be. It’s more proof I’ve thoroughly kicked your ass all over this site.

    The Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They have a winning head to head record against the Steelers and whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade. No wonder you’re so butthurt and obsessively resentful. Dallas haunts your nightmares.

    We’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  49. Scott Remington
    June 6, 2018
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    “The 83 Raiders allowed 20.8 points a game and didn’t even rank in the top 10 defensively in scoring, LMFAO! Joe Theismann had a bad game in the SB and threw some interceptions but the Raiders didn’t shut hardly anyone ELSE down that year. Plus Staubach was a lot better than Theismann and Tony Dorsett was a lot better than Riggins, but that UPSET victory over Washington had more to do with softer Redskins defense which didn’t rank in the top 10 in either scoring or yards.”

    Most of the ’83 Raiders defensive stats are misleading because they were accumulated BEFORE Mike Haynes was brought on board to join forces with Lester Hayes, Howie Long, Alzado, Ted Hendricks, Rod Martin, Vann McElroy and the rest, Mr. Historian. Soft Redskins defense? They were first in the league against the run in ’83, stupid, and Marcus Allen shredded them for a Super Bowl record 191 yards. And, by the way, how did the Cowboys do against that “soft Redskins defense” in the late season ’83 rematch down in Dallas that was being hyped as the Game of the Year? That matchup became a mismatch and an embarrassing Cowboys ass-whipping put on them by the ‘Skins.

    More Rasputin ignorance: “…Marcus Allen would have done worse, not better. Payton averaged 132.3(!) rushing yards/game and 5.5 y/a in 1977. Dallas held him to 60 yards on 19 attempts for 3.16 y/a. Marcus Allen averaged 63.4 yards/game and 3.8 y/a in 1983. He found space against the Redskins run defense but he would have found himself up against a very different animal in Doomsday. Randy “The Manster” White, DPOY Harvey “Too Mean” Martin, and Ed “Too Tall” Jones would have made his day very frustrating and painful.”

    You see, people, it’s that kind of faulty analysis that contributes to Rasputin’s stupidity. The game is not played on paper, stupid. It’s played on the field. You talked about Marcus Allen’s REGULAR season stats from ’83. Did you check out his PLAYOFF stats from ’83? Same with John Riggins the year before. If we were to have broken down the SB X matchup you would have no doubt said, “Swann will get nothing against Dallas. The Cowboys were eighth against the pass and fifth overall.” Then SB X was played ON THE FIELD and …LMAO!!!

    The Raiders’ Super Bowl victory over the Redskins was hardly an upset. It was no different than the Chiefs massacre of the Vikings in SB IV. Hayes and Haynes were the greatest corner tandem the league has ever seen. No team has ever before or since their collaboration seen two shutdown corners on one team. And Marcus Allen was a great runner and had a great line. Walter Payton had nothing in front of him in ’77. His 1,800+ season was ALL him. If Franco Harris (’77,’79) and Riggins could run threw Harvey Martin, Randy White, and Too Tall then so could Marcus Allen. Ridiculous. Harris, Riggins, and Allen had quality offensive lines. Payton didn’t have that until 1984.

    Dallas went to two straight Super Bowls with Duane Thomas as the featured back, winning the second. Had they paid him what he was asking for they easily would have gone to more instead of having a five-year title drought before they finally found his worthy successor in Tony Dorsett in 1977. Calvin Hill and Walt Garrison took them nowhere after Thomas was allowed to leave. Incredibly, the Miami Dolphins made the same mistake with Larry Csonka. Pay these men. They are making your dynasties, dummies!

    You said it was a testament to the ’71 Cowboys that they were able to win the Super Bowl in spite of Thomas’ “antics?” What were they? He didn’t talk to anyone? Big deal. Did Tom Landry ever smile (Garrison: “I don’t know. I only played in Dallas nine years”)? The REAL testament to the ’71 Cowboys Title march is that they were able to win it all in spite of an unathletic anvil at free safety dragging down the secondary and pass coverage from 3rd in 1970 to 19th in 1971.

    Stabler and Branch were a more formidable matchup for either of the Dallas ’70s Super Bowl teams than Griese and Warfield were. Stabler was better than Griese (All-Decade for Stabler; Nothing for Griese; the chronology of their HOF inductions was politically motivated). They finished the underachieving Cowboys off in ’74 with Stabler hitting them up for two TD passes and Branch burning Harris deep on the last TD pass of 47-year old George Blanda’s–GEORGE BLANDA?!?!?–career.

    My conclusion with this idiot, who trolls around here as “Rasputin,” follows.

  50. Scott Remington
    June 7, 2018
    Reply

    Rasputin: Idiot. Liar. Coward.

    This guy is a pathetic joke who desperately uses every excuse. To Raiders fans from the Landry Cowboys era, he disparages the victories over the Steelers (“Franco and Rocky were injured”; “The Steelers were having an off-year”; “That was after there glory years were over”…) . To Steelers fans, he moves the years around (1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1976, 1983, on, and on, and on…) to say the Raiders “owned” Pittsburgh. Lying manipulator, that Rasputin is. All the while during this time of Landry’s Cowboys tenure when the Steelers and Raiders rose up (1974-83) Landry went 2-9 versus Super Bowl champs who wore Black.

    During this “Black” period for the Cowboys, the Steelers won four Super Bowls, the Raiders won three, and the Cowboys could only muster a measly one Super Bowl victory.

    As for Rasputin’s desperate Raiders’ bandwagoning, I personally don’t have to go cross country to find someone who beat the Cowboys. I can look in my own hometown (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers) or across the state. Remember Buddy Ryan and his Philadelphia Eagles who dominated the Cowboys during his tenure and won eight straight over the Dallas bunch? Ran the score up on Landry in ’87 and had Jimmy Johnson crying “Bounty! Bounty!” on Thanksgiving 1989? I’ll never forget a quote from Buddy after another Eagles administered beatdown: “Aw, who in the hell are the Cowboys? We kick they’re ass whenever we play ’em.” LMAO!!! LOL!!!

    Desperate liars call on desperate measures. The Steelers beat the Cowboys in two of the three Super Bowls they have played against each other. Only Rasputin points out that the Cowboys outscored Pittsburgh by two points in the combined scores of the games (who does that? Oh. Desperate losers, that’s who). As if people are going to ignore the Cowboys 1-2 (losing) record in this Super Bowl matchup and say, “The Cowboys were better.” It doesn’t work that way. Cut the crap, Rasputin. You’re acting stupid. Like Hilary Clinton. You’re talking about popular votes when you should be focusing on electoral votes. Rasputin would claim a team that loses a best-of seven series 4-1 is better because their lone win was a blowout. LOL. Pure troll.

    Rasputin is a guy who has an agenda and is unsuccessfully and desperately trying to re-write history to make his poor Cowboys the top team in league history. The result is just a crappy mess of contradictory positions which lead to the same inaccurate conclusion–no matter what the facts are (Six world titles–Pittsburgh–is better than five–Dallas). And the facts are:

    Now this idiot is trying to make it look like he issued a challenge that I refused. Rasputin is a desperate, pathetic liar. “I just gave you a chance to pick one question for me to answer (again) in a feature spotlight, the most important one, if you would answer one of mine afterwards and you chickened out…” I said clearly I would answer his question ( BTW, It’s a season that ends in a loss either way. Who cares if you won a conference title game then lost the Super Bowl?) after and ONLY after he would answer the 12 that I have posed and he has repeatedly ducked and cowardly has avoided Mayweather-style for the last 10 or more exchanges. Why prolong the inevitable? I will now proceed to shoot all the pink Landry Cowboy Elephants in the room.

    1) What was Roger Staubach’s record as a starting QB vs the Steelers?
    Staubach NEVER beat the Steelers as Cowboys’ starting QB. He was 0-4. The Steelers beat him every time he played them. That includes Super Bowls X (Seven sacks, 3 INTs–including the game-sealer to Glen Edwards) and XIII (Five Sacks, INT, and a fumble). In the 1977 28-13 loss, he failed to ignite the offense (Three sacks, two INTs, only 13 points). In the 1979 14-3 loss, Staubach was woefully ineffective (Three sacks; 11-25-113 yds; 57.6 rating; only three points) and was put out of his misery and the game with a crushing sack by L.C. Greenwood (who beat the overmatched “Hall of Fame” tackle he owned regularly, Rayfield Wright). When named to the HOF in January 1985, Staubach was interviewed along the NFC Pro Bowl sideline by ABC sportscaster Lynn Swann. Asked if he had any regrets about his career, Staubach replied, “I wish I could have convinced you not to play in Super Bowls X and XIII.” Swann is STILL in the Landry Cowboy nightmares! LOL!!! Facts/Truth/History.

    2) What was Drew Pearson’s record vs. the Steelers?
    It was a dreadful 0-5. Pearson’s first game vs. the Steelers was Super Bowl X. He had a great start. He took a 1st quarter crossing pattern from Roger Staubach 29 yards for the game’s first touchdown. From there, he was a virtual nonfactor against the Steelers, either in that game or any other games he played against them. He was beaten up by Mel Blount, Glen Edwards, and Mike Wagner in the various games. For example, in Super Bowl XIII, Wagner broke Pearson’s ribs on this play: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mike+wagner+steelers. Facts/Truth/History.

    3) If Pearson was a “better player than” Swann, why did Swann triple him in Team of the Decade–’70s–votes? Because he was NOT better than Swann, as everyone outside of Dallas knows. Swann was, according to the Hall of Fame voters, three times better than Drew Pearson (By a 21-7 vote as best receiver for the NFL “Team of the ’70s”). Facts/Truth/History.

    4) Why did Swann outplay Pearson whenever the Steelers and Cowboys matched up? See answer above. AND…Pearson was dealing with Mel Blount, Mike Wagner, and Glen Edwards. Swann was dealing with Cliff Harris, Charlie Waters and some no-name corners. Facts/Truth/History.

    5) After all (according to Rasputin), “beating the Steelers was a Cowboys tradition.” Will you tell us how well Roger and Drew upheld the “tradition?” If this is a “Cowboy tradition,” they didn’t uphold it at all. If anything, they represented the Cowboys poorly in this regard, allowing the Steeler to make them (Staubach, Pearson, and all the other Cowboys) their chumps for the ’70s. Facts/Truth/History.

    And…

    6) What was Swann’s record vs. the Cowboys? Undefeated at 5-0, Set Super Bowl Records and danced in the Cowboys endzone constantly at Cliff Harris’ and the rest of the Cowboys secondary’s expense and anguish. Facts/Truth/History.

    7) What was Jack Lambert’s record vs. Cowboys? Undefeated at 5-0. Along the way, stuffed Steeler reject Preston Pearson (couldn’t beat out Rocky Bleier, huh?), a trash-talking Tony Dorsett in the ’82 season opener (Lambert: “That’ll cool your ass off!” LMAO!!! Classic!!!), and, of course, the Great Trashing of wussy Cliff Harris for bullying the Steelers’…KICKER! What a wussy move by Harris. Facts/Truth/History.

    8) Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft? Absolutely. In one–ONE!–draft he acquired four–FOUR!–Hall of Famers (Swann, Lambert, Stallworth, and Mike Webster). Pure genius. Facts/Truth/History.

    9) Why couldn’t the Landry Cowboys ever beat the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers? A. Lack of talent? B. Lack of heart? C. Lack of pride? D. Were the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers just too great. Let’s try…ALL OF THE ABOVE. A: They tried to cover Swann and Stallworth with a secondary with its lead players being Cliff Harris and Charlie Waters (i.e., lack of talent) as opposed to Jack Tatum and George Atkinson (intimidating studs) B: The Cowboys were prima donnas who didn’t like to get down and dirty and show grit (Cowboy fan/ex-girlfriend: “The Cowboys didn’t play THAT way! … My poor Cowboys.” SMH; Translation: Lack of Heart) C: The Landry Cowboys failed to uphold the honor of The STAR and the “Cowboys Tradition (Lack of Pride)”. D: Most obvious answer of all–THE STEELERS WERE JUST TOO GREAT for the Landry Cowboys. Mike Ditka: “We (Landry Cowboys) thought we were the best. They (Super Bowl ’70s Steelers) KNEW they were the best.” Facts/Truth/History.

    10) What was Noll’s overall coaching record vs. Landry? It was 6-3 with a fat five-game winning streak. Fat because it included the decade- and history-defining World Title victories in Super Bowls X and XIII. Of course Noll was a football genius. He was undefeated vs. Landry (who many considered a genius) in championship competition. Facts/Truth/History.

    11) How about Noll’s record vs. Bill Walsh? It was 2-1 and the Super Bowl ’70s Steelers members were gone or past their prime. And Walsh is considered The Genius. The greatest of the Montana/Walsh 49ers teams was the 1984 Super Bowl champs who sported a record of 18-1 (including the postseason). The one loss? Noll’s Steelers. And the game was IN San Francisco, not Oakland, dumbass…LMAO!!! (This fool–Rasputin–actually had the Cowboys and Steelers playing a game in Oakland! SMH. Obviously, Rasputin is NOT a genius) Facts/Truth/History.

    12) How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass? Only Rasputin knows the answer to that question. It seems that the game video and film is pretty clear: The Pittsburgh Steelers simply kicked the Landry Cowboys’ ass (casualties: Golden Richards; Jean Fugett; Cliff Harris-led secondary; Cowboys offensive line–seven sacks; Cliff Harris–See Swann and Lambert). Rasputin: “The Cowboys were ahead for most of the game.” And the Steelers kept pounding and pounding on the Cowboys until Dallas gave in and the Steelers won. Facts/Truth/History.

    I’m done with this troll called “Rasputin.” I’ve got much, much bigger fish to fry.

  51. Rasputin
    June 7, 2018
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    “Most of the ’83 Raiders defensive stats are misleading because they were accumulated BEFORE Mike Haynes was brought on board to join forces with Lester Hayes”

    Let’s not get crazy. Over their last 4 regular season games, all of which Hayes played in, the Raiders allowed 244.25 passing yards/game, a lot for back then. Heck, that wouldn’t be great defensively even today. That was worse than the 197.63 Raiders AVERAGE that year. They allowed 17.5 points/game, which, while slightly better than their season average, still wasn’t great. They also allowed 5 passing TDs those last 4 games.

    In their 3 playoff games the Raiders allowed 33 total points and 3 of the 4 TDs they surrendered were passing.

    In the 77 playoffs the Cowboys only allowed 23 total points and 2 TDs. Doomsday’s starters only allowed 16(!) points and one rushing TD. The starters allowed ZERO passing TDs all postseason and held the Super Bowl Broncos to only 35 passing yards, a record that still stands. The Raiders gave up 193 to the SB Redskins.

    Clearly the 77 Cowboys pass defense was better than the Raiders’ PD just like the rest of the team was.

    “They were first in the league against the run in ’83, stupid, and Marcus Allen shredded them for a Super Bowl record 191 yards.”

    I know, moron. I said the Redskins were “softER” (than the 77 Cowboys) overall. They only ranked 12th overall and 28th in pass defense. When a team has holes in it or is one dimensional it’s easier to exploit them, including in their strong area if you get them to focus on trying to cover up their weaknesses.

    By contrast the 77 Cowboys had no weaknesses. They ranked 3rd against the run, 2nd against the pass, and 1st overall. Walter Payton was better than Marcus Allen and Doomsday shut him down cold. Marcus Allen also LED THE LEAGUE IN FUMBLES with 14 in 83, which is just one of the reasons he didn’t make the Pro Bowl that year. By contrast Payton was NFL MVP in 77. Not even close.

    “And, by the way, how did the Cowboys do against that “soft Redskins defense” in the late season ’83 rematch down in Dallas that was being hyped as the Game of the Year? That matchup became a mismatch and an embarrassing Cowboys ass-whipping put on them by the ‘Skins.”

    We’re discussing the 77 Cowboys not the 83 Cowboys, moron, but even the 83 Cowboys beat the Redskins 31-30 in the other game, LMFAO.

    “More Rasputin ignorance: “…Marcus Allen would have done worse, not better. Payton averaged 132.3(!) rushing yards/game and 5.5 y/a in 1977. Dallas held him to 60 yards on 19 attempts for 3.16 y/a. Marcus Allen averaged 63.4 yards/game and 3.8 y/a in 1983. He found space against the Redskins run defense but he would have found himself up against a very different animal in Doomsday. Randy “The Manster” White, DPOY Harvey “Too Mean” Martin, and Ed “Too Tall” Jones would have made his day very frustrating and painful.”

    You see, people, it’s that kind of faulty analysis that contributes to Rasputin’s stupidity. The game is not played on paper, stupid. It’s played on the field. You talked about Marcus Allen’s REGULAR season stats from ’83. Did you check out his PLAYOFF stats from ’83?”

    You mean FACTS on “paper”, halfwit? As opposed to your unsupported, ignorant assertions? Allen didn’t play Doomsday. Poor Payton did. I’d take Walter over Marcus almost any year, especially those seasons.

    “If we were to have broken down the SB X matchup you would have no doubt said, “Swann will get nothing against Dallas. The Cowboys were eighth against the pass and fifth overall.””

    Actually the Steelers had one of the top offenses in the league (when great they were more like Dallas in that they were fairly balanced, unlike the inferior Raiders whose SB teams were full of holes), but even if your rambling hadn’t been hopelessly ignorant what’s your point? That one should pick the team with the WORSE stats to win? As usual you’re a drooling moron who doesn’t think through what you post and who has no point.

    “The Raiders’ Super Bowl victory over the Redskins was hardly an upset.”

    Vegas said otherwise, moron. Look it up.

    “Hayes and Haynes were the greatest corner tandem the league has ever seen.”

    I’d prefer the 71 Cowboys’ Mel Renfro and Herb Adderley (who BTW allowed only 1 TD that entire postseason and a record setting 0 in the SB), but to each his own.

    “And Marcus Allen was a great runner and had a great line. Walter Payton had nothing in front of him in ’77. His 1,800+ season was ALL him.”

    But it WAS an 1,800+ season averaging an incredible 132.3 yards/game and 5.5 yards/carry. Allen only averaged 63.4 yards/game and 3.8 yards/carry. No contest.

    “Franco Harris (’77,’79) and Riggins could run threw Harvey Martin, Randy White, and Too Tall then so could Marcus Allen.”

    You’re so desperate you’re relying on a fluke game during a midseason lull (2 back to back losses, the only Dallas suffered all year)? Harris was shut down pretty much every other time he played the Cowboys. As a general rule nobody ran “threw” (sic, maybe try “through” next time) Doomsday. That’s what they were most famous for. Every other great defense, including the Steel Curtain, was easier to run on than Doomsday.

    If we’re making an educated prediction about a hypothetical matchup you have to play the odds, not rely on a freak aberration. The long term tendency is what matters most.

    “Dallas went to two straight Super Bowls with Duane Thomas as the featured back, winning the second. Had they paid him what he was asking for they easily would have gone to more instead of having a five-year title drought before they finally found his worthy successor in Tony Dorsett in 1977. Calvin Hill and Walt Garrison took them nowhere after Thomas was allowed to leave.”

    Didn’t I already debunk this idiocy several posts ago? You’re just repeating this nonsense without even addressing my lengthy, fact based response debunking it, you cowardly wuss.

    Again, how many Super Bowls did Thomas lead Washington too, LOL? Hill and Garrison were better and more productive than Thomas. Period. Dallas was hurt far more by Roger’s injury in 72 and the retirement of a collective 54 Pro Bowls worth of players over the next couple of years than the departure of a disruptive flake who failed to do anything once he left the Cowboys.

    You just keep showing your ignorance, Scott.

    “You said it was a testament to the ’71 Cowboys that they were able to win the Super Bowl in spite of Thomas’ “antics?” What were they? He didn’t talk to anyone? Big deal.”

    Why don’t you ask the multiple teams who let him go rather than patiently deal with him like Dallas had, LOL?

    “The REAL testament to the ’71 Cowboys Title march is that they were able to win it all in spite of an unathletic anvil at free safety dragging down the secondary and pass coverage from 3rd in 1970 to 19th in 1971.”

    Yawn. You’re really out of ammo, just posting already debunked crap even you had dropped several posts ago. I refer you back up to the facts I posted showing the huge improvement in 1971 once Harris became the starter 4 games in versus those first 3 games. You can’t honestly claim Harris was the reason for the seasonal drop in rankings when the numbers dramatically improved once he retook his starting job, LMFAO! Then there’s the “unathletic” lie again. Harris posted a 39 inch vertical and was a collegiate sprinter.

    I know you’re too lazy to do more than take a quick glance at season stats but sometimes you have to look deeper if you want to avoid faceplants like those you keep making. If you had finished high school maybe you’d know that.

    “Stabler and Branch were a more formidable matchup for either of the Dallas ’70s Super Bowl teams than Griese and Warfield were. Stabler was better than Griese (All-Decade for Stabler; Nothing for Griese; the chronology of their HOF inductions was politically motivated).”

    Or maybe it had to do with Griese having twice as many Pro Bowls as Stabler, twice as many first team All Pro selections, twice as many SB wins (weren’t you all about SB wins before, hypocrite, LOL?), a higher career passer rating, and actually throwing more TDs than INTs in his career…..unlike Stabler. Warfield had twice as many Pro Bowls as Branch too.

    An actual example of political motivation in freezing deserving candidates out is the anti-Cowboys bias that has kept Pearson, Harris, and Howley out of Canton despite their overwhelming cases.

    But I’m glad you again acknowledge that HoF decisions can be flawed, despite your insipid earlier circular arguments that a Cowboy being left out is proof that Cowboy deserves to be left out, LOL.

    Oh BTW, how do Larry Csonka and Mark van Eeghencompare, LMFAO? You never did stop dodging and ducking that one. The running game matters too, moron.

    “They finished the underachieving Cowboys off in ’74 with Stabler”

    A close 4 point game at Oakland in Dallas’ worst season of the decade (their only non-playoff one) and one of the Raiders’ best (12-2), LOL? How do you account for the 1980 Cowboys beating the SB Raiders (also at Oakland) by SIX points? Oh that’s right. You never have, coward.

    All your arguments here are idiotic and have been totally refuted. The bottom line is that the none of the Raiders SB teams were close to being as complete or great as the 77 or 71 Cowboys, or the 90s Cowboys for that matter. Pittsburgh’s best teams are closer but still not quite as good as the Cowboys at their best.

  52. Rasputin
    June 7, 2018
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    Scott Remington’s failed anti-Cowboys propaganda effort reaches its penultimate stage. As slow-witted and uneducated as he is even he realizes he’s lost.

    “Now this idiot is trying to make it look like he issued a challenge that I refused. Rasputin is a desperate, pathetic liar. “I just gave you a chance to pick one question for me to answer (again) in a feature spotlight, the most important one, if you would answer one of mine afterwards and you chickened out…””

    That’s exactly what happened as anyone can read for themselves, LMFAO. Lying about me lying just underscores what a liar you are, coward.

    “I said clearly I would answer his question..after and ONLY after he would answer the 12 that I have posed”

    LOL! 1 for 12 isn’t fair or reasonable is it, moron? Especially since I’ve already answered most of your irrelevant, off topic, loaded questions while you’ve fled almost all of mine like the intellectually bankrupt wuss you are. That’s certainly not the one for one challenge I offered that you DID decline.

    “BTW, It’s a season that ends in a loss either way. Who cares if you won a conference title game then lost the Super Bowl?”

    YOU did apparently, halfwit, since you stupidly claimed earlier that Roethlisberger’s 2-1 SB record was somehow more (not equally) impressive than Staubach’s 2-2 starting record. You’ve a vapid buffoon who lacks the brainpower to maintain a coherent position through a single debate. Your posts really have been a mess of self contradictions and hypocritical cherry-picking. When I post contrary evidence destroying you with your own logic the whole structure collapses.

    “Desperate liars call on desperate measures.”

    Agreed. Your posting has reeked of desperation.

    As for your moronic “questions”, you never did explain what the relevance of crap like Staubach’s record against the Steelers is. You already acknowledged that Roger belongs in the HoF so if anything you’re only undermining your own childish line of argument. Chuck Howley beat the Steelers the last 7 games he played them. Pittsburgh never beat Dallas when both Howley and Cliff Harris were on the team. Harris personally intercepted Bradshaw when defeating the Steelers in their 1972 AFC championship appearing season. How does that factor into your HoF considerations?

    Your other “questions” are equally worthless.

    “As for Rasputin’s desperate Raiders’ bandwagoning,”

    You never did answer this: If me citing facts about teams that beat the Steelers like the Raiders, Dolphins, and first peak Landry Cowboys is “bandwagoning”, were you “bandwagoning” with the Packers, 49ers, and even Raiders, LOL? You’re a joke.

    From the beginning you’ve engaged in hypocritical cherry-picking while ignoring the majority of evidence that went against you.

    You claimed the Cowboys were merely “paper champions” because they didn’t beat the Lombardi Packers (1960-1967) or “SB Steelers” (1974-1979).

    You never answered if that meant the Steelers were “paper champions” too since they never beat the SB Raiders (1976-1983, a 6 game losing streak) or the SB Dolphins (over the first half of the 1970s). These were facts you were ignorant of until I educated you about them but you weren’t man enough to acknowledge what they meant for your argument. Plus those teams were from the Steelers’ own conference so they played more frequently than Dallas played Pittsburgh.

    You also omitted the fact that the Landry Cowboys DID beat the SB Raiders and crushed the SB Dolphins in a record setting 24-3 blowout in the big game. No “paper champions” there. The Landry Cowboys also beat the Steelers 7 games in a row during the first Dallas peak from the mid 60s through the mid 70s. That includes the 1972 season when Pittsburgh was 11-3, made the AFC Championship game, and had almost its entire roster in place for its future SB run, so you can’t even claim that’s just because Pittsburgh was a “bad team” then (in fact Dallas was only 10-4 that year and lost Staubach to injury).

    In fact against these teams in their respective peak eras as laid out above the Steelers went an astounding 0-16(!) from the mid 60s through the early 80s.

    Again, I’m not the one arguing that’s of supreme importance in judging Steeler greatness. I’m just using your own logic to show that Pittsburgh was even more of a “paper champion” by your own stupid argument.

    “To Raiders fans from the Landry Cowboys era, he disparages the victories over the Steelers (“Franco and Rocky were injured” “The Steelers were having an off-year” “That was after there glory years were over”…) . To Steelers fans, he moves the years around (1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1976, 1983, on, and on, and on…) to say the Raiders “owned” Pittsburgh. Lying manipulator, that Rasputin is.”

    Wrong, dimwit. First I cited the different years just to show how many different ways the Steelers were owned, LOL. That enhances my argument. My statements on the Raiders/Steelers thing aren’t mutually exclusive and are entirely consistent given the respective contexts (which of course you omitted). Both anti-Cowboys arguments, the one by the Raiders fan and the one by the Steelers fan (assuming they’re even different people), were fatally flawed and in both cases I used your own logic against you.

    I was never on a Raiders, Dolphins, or Steelers “bandwagon”. I just cited facts to destroy your anti-Cowboys position.

    “All the while during this time of Landry’s Cowboys tenure when the Steelers and Raiders rose up (1974-83) Landry went 2-9 versus Super Bowl champs who wore Black.””

    Who wore “black”, LMFAO? You’ve been reduced to grouping by jersey color?!? At least Dallas won some. The Steelers went 0-16 against the champions listed above from the 1960s through the early 80s. You lose again on your own terms, Scott.

    “Remember Buddy Ryan and his Philadelphia Eagles who dominated the Cowboys during his tenure and won eight straight over the Dallas bunch? Ran the score up on Landry in ’87 and had Jimmy Johnson crying “Bounty! Bounty!” on Thanksgiving 1989? I’ll never forget a quote from Buddy after another Eagles administered beatdown: “Aw, who in the hell are the Cowboys? We kick they’re ass whenever we play ’em.” LMAO!!! LOL!!!”

    During Dallas’ low point, LOL? How many Super Bowls did the Eagles win in the entire 20th Century, hypocrite? And overall the Cowboys dominate the head to head record. Landry once beat the Eagles an incredible 11 times in a row! In a long stretch from the late 60s through the late 70s Dallas went 21-2 against the Eagles! It’s the Cowboys who have kicked Philadelphia’s ass. As usual you have no point.

    And Jimmy Johnson’s Cowboys went undefeated against Chuck Noll’s Steelers, LOL.

    The above useless folly has been typical of Scott Remington’s posting. He’s a serial faceplanter who doesn’t think through what he types.

    “Only Rasputin points out that the Cowboys outscored Pittsburgh by two points in the combined scores of the games (who does that? Oh. Desperate losers, that’s who).”

    Actually the Cowboys won the most recent head to head Super Bowl. I’ve won this debate even more decisively.

    And the NFL keeps track of things like points for and against, even using them sometimes in tiebreakers. It was just a fun thing to point out given how detached from reality your descriptions of those Super Bowls were. Two fluky, razor thin games in the 70s and one double digit victory in the 90s. It means that all time when Dallas and Pittsburgh have stepped onto the field to face each other in the Super Bowl the Cowboys have outscored them. It’s not central to any of my arguments but it’s worth noting since it deflates your childish rhetoric.

    “Rasputin is a guy who has an agenda and is unsuccessfully and desperately trying to re-write history to make his poor Cowboys the top team in league history.”

    I didn’t make these facts up, halfwit.

    All Time Winning Percentage
    Dallas Cowboys – .573 (1st in NFL)

    Playoff Seasons
    Dallas Cowboys – 32 (1st in NFL, tied with much older Giants and Packers)

    I could go on but I’ve already posted numerous other metrics of dominance elsewhere on this page.

    “Six world titles–Pittsburgh–is better than five–Dallas”

    In that one metric. For a few years. But with 5 SB wins Dallas isn’t exactly lacking in the Lombardi trophy department. And until a few years ago the Cowboys were tied with the 49ers for most SB wins, ahead of the Steelers.

    I never denied that SB wins are important. But they aren’t the only facts that matter. The Steelers have been around for 85 seasons and by your own admission your position forces you to dismiss 79 YEARS of the franchise’s history as a waste of time. You’ve put all your stock in 4 games played 40 or more years ago, two of them controversial 4 point flukes, that are increasingly in the rearview mirror. Heck, that’s without even considering the even closer, more controversial Colts game in SB V where one undeniably blown call (as shown by video footage and as a Baltimore article I cited earlier admitted) is all that’s blocking the Cowboys from having had 6 SB wins since they beat the Steelers in 1995.

    Your entire NFL self esteem is at the mercy of year to year Super Bowl fluctuations. If America’s Team wins the next SB, which could happen any given year, then you lose your one and only talking point (the Cowboys having the conference championship tie breakers). By contrast the Cowboys’ superior sustained success over time (a huge reason they ARE America’s Team) provides a firm foundation. The Steelers can’t catch up in winning percentage in one season (Pittsburgh ranks a dismal 11th). Dallas will be on top in that and other metrics regardless of the year to year fluctuations in Super Bowl win count.

    You really picked the wrong target.

    Bragging rights aside, you’ve been avoiding the pertinent REASON team success was being discussed in the first place. It’s about HoF count. SB wins are awesome. But the Steelers just had one mostly consistent roster during that brief several year run. You’ve dismissed the rest of Steeler history in the 20th Century as mostly “bad”. By contrast the Cowboys sustained success, especially in the dominant, record setting Landry era, which involved entirely different waves of great, HoF quality players over time. That means more rosters and more great HoF candidates. That’s relevant to this HoFer discussion, not whatever you subjectively feel is the most (or only) important metric of comparison.

    By ignoring that fact you’ve been in a lost position since this debate began.

    “Swann was, according to the Hall of Fame voters, three times better than Drew Pearson (By a 21-7 vote as best receiver for the NFL “Team of the ’70s”). Facts/Truth/History.”

    And they voted that Pearson was better than every other WR in the 70s, LMFAO. Facts/Truth/History. See what I mean about you shooting yourself in the foot without even thinking one move ahead?

    “Did Noll show football genius in the 1974 draft? Absolutely. In one–ONE!–draft he acquired four–FOUR!–Hall of Famers (Swann, Lambert, Stallworth, and Mike Webster). Pure genius. Facts/Truth/History.”

    What happened in the other drafts, LOL? Once that one roster faded Noll never reloaded or recovered. You’re setting the bar REALLY low for “genius”. Understandable though, given your own deep stupidity.

    “The Cowboys were prima donnas who didn’t like to get down and dirty and show grit..The Landry Cowboys failed to uphold the honor of The STAR and the “Cowboys Tradition”

    Again, the truth is the opposite of your claim. While the Steelers were closer to the “bullies” you accused Dallas of being earlier who fell off the cliff once their initial greatness faded (like folding after being punched in the mouth), the Landry Cowboys are literally most famous for having enormous grit and never giving up (unlike the Steelers even their SB losses have all been by 4 points or less), for having legendary, heroic comeback wins against long odds, and for SUSTAINING success an NFL record 20 consecutive seasons even when they weren’t at their best. They were also extremely physical. No team had more heart or toughness than the Landry Cowboys.

    “How was Super Bowl X “fluky,” dumbass?”

    The Cowboys led most of the game until the Steelers gained a 4 point victory riding mostly on a couple of big plays.

    “Rasputin: “The Cowboys were ahead for most of the game.” And the Steelers kept pounding and pounding on the Cowboys until Dallas gave in and the Steelers won.”

    The Cowboys never “gave in”. In this page’s very radio interview that anyone can click on to listen to the Steelers’ LB Jack Ham talks about how close that game was and how nervous he was, admitting that his palms were “very sweaty” with Staubach leading that furious comeback and passing near the end with a chance to win the game. LMFAO!

    Once again the unathletic Scott Remington, who never played football and knows nothing about competition, makes claims even the real men who played for the team he roots for don’t make.

    Facts/Truth/History.

    “I’m done with this troll called “Rasputin.” I’ve got much, much bigger fish to fry.”

    I’ve already accepted your surrender and you have no fish to fry (stop lying). The ass kicking I’ve given you here has been quite thorough. It’s not surprising that you’re fleeing the thread leaving a thin trail of urine behind. You may still wet the bed during some your nightmares about the Cowboys.

    You’re a coward, a liar, and a moron, Scott Remington.

    The rest of your post just repeats already debunked material while mostly dodging my pertinent questions and arguments.

    The Cowboys have the highest overall winning percentage in the NFL. They have a winning head to head record against the Steelers and whipped Pittsburgh by double digits in the most recent head to head Super Bowl, the most decisive one and the only one anyone under 50 remembers watching live. Dallas has also beaten the Steelers every time they’ve played so far this decade.

    We’ve established that Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, and Drew Pearson have brilliant individual cases that you’ve failed miserably to assault. We’ve also established that the Cowboys are underrepresented, not overrepresented, in Canton given their success on the field.

  53. Rasputin
    June 7, 2018
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    To briefly recap….

    – Scott Remington’s weak attacks on the record of team success by both the Landry and overall Cowboys were brutally crushed. We also established that the Landry Cowboys have fewer HoFers than numerous teams with fewer SB wins and less general success do from that same era.

    – Even Remington’s irrelevant semantical diversion attempt about whether the Landry Cowboys should be called a “dynasty” was contradicted by the PFHOF itself, whose website labels the 70s Cowboys a “dynastic” team.

    – On individual merit no one has articulated a legitimate argument why a player having 5 first team All Pro selections or first team All Decade status should be excluded from Canton. Almost every player in NFL history with 5 first team AP NFL All Pro selections is in the HoF.

    Chuck Howley is the only such player whose accolades came in the 20th Century Super Bowl era who’s not in the HoF. The only one. Cliff Harris is the only defensive first team 70s All Decade player not in the HoF. Drew Pearson is the only offensive first team 70s All Decade player not in the HoF. All three have plenty of Pro Bowls and other resume accomplishments as well. They would merit induction even if they didn’t have SB rings, though they all do.

    These omissions are glaring.

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